escorts
Premier Adult Entertainment Community
HOME  ·  ADS  ·  FORUM
Subject: "GFE, PSE definitions" Archived thread - Read only
 
  previous topic | next topic
printerprinter friendly view    
Conferences > Northern California > General > Topic #37393
Reading Topic #37393, reply 23

bluethrills bluethrills rating
Charter Member
12512 posts, 76 feedbacks, 139 points
14-May-06, 08:24 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to bluethrills bluethrills profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
23. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.15
 
LAST EDITED ON 14-May-06 AT 08:27 AM (PST)
 
Ydining-->> GFE means only what the writer/poster intends it to mean
Exactly - and the definition should be flexible.
Passionate DFK and expert CBJ is all I need to consider someone a great GFE.

Ydining


That's precisely why there is so much confusion about the term, and it's liberal usage.

Your expectation of a GFE maybe different than some other RBer. And, to know exactly what you meant when the term is being thrown around is almost impossible. So, when reviews, ads, and discussions are being had there is huge disconnect.

From the providers perspective, it puts them in a vulnerable position as the hobbyist may expect more than what's delivered. From the hobbyist perspective, they may fell cheated out of a session -- provider did not deliver as advertised. It's a loose loose situation.

As alluded to in a number of posts:

GFE = Girl Friend Experience (generally that entails DFK, BBBJs, DATY, CFS, MSOG, and a great attitude)

PSE = Porn Star Experience (This includes GFE + other services such as CIM, etc. )

If there are other things or intangibles that we as a community would like to describe, lets create a new acronym. But, let's not dilute or confuse what acronyms have already been clearly defined.


Cheers,
- blue thrills


  alert top

 GFE, PSE definitions [View All], RickVanWolford, 09:37 AM, 14-Apr-06, (0)  

trj_66 trj_66 rating
Charter Member
5820 posts, 19 feedbacks, 37 points
14-Apr-06, 10:39 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to trj_66 trj_66 profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
1. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
   http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID15/2.html

There is no official definition of PSE.

  alert top

RickVanWolford RickVanWolford rating
Member since 1-Oct-02
424 posts, 6 feedbacks, 12 points
14-Apr-06, 11:48 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to RickVanWolford RickVanWolford profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
2. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.1
 

Thanks, but that link only spells out the acronym. So, most everyone knows that PSE = Porn Star Experience --- but what does that involve that a GFE doesn't. I was just wondering if anyone's written that description down somewhere.

Thanks for your help tho, trj.

  alert top

pitbull
Member since 11-Jan-06
448 posts, Rate pitbull
14-Apr-06, 12:10 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to pitbull pitbull profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
3. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
Both terms are used differently and threads have plenty of debates on the issue. It seems that there is some acknowledgment about RB-GFE vs. K-GFE or other but PSE seems quite subjective.

  alert top

crazyfingers crazyfingers rating
Charter Member
2347 posts, 12 feedbacks, 24 points
14-Apr-06, 04:32 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to crazyfingers crazyfingers profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
4. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.3
 
Seems to be about level and style.

GFE would include BBBJ, PSE might include facial
GFE feels more "romantic" (DFK, etc.), PSE more radical/hard core (MSOG, Greek)

  alert top

ngsfmale ngsfmale rating
Member since 19-May-03
3025 posts, 20 feedbacks, 40 points
14-Apr-06, 05:17 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to ngsfmale ngsfmale profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
5. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.4
 
   MSOG is listed in GFE. Who knows?

  alert top

Looking4thebestmoderator
Charter Member
9017 posts
14-Apr-06, 06:34 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to Looking4thebest Looking4thebest profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
6. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
   I would say that if a friend of mine told me she was " PSE " this would obviously include the RB definition of GFE and also include Greek and swallowing at a minimum.

Additionally, although could be included in the GFE gals, would include facials and anything you would see in a Porn Movie (sans the BBFS or BB Greek) and not anything more complicated than that.

A "good" and reputable GFE Hooker can deliver both types of services without a problem.

- L4B -

  alert top

Tintin1
Member since 7-Dec-03
14-Apr-06, 08:36 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to Tintin1 Tintin1 profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
7. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.6
 
   The definitions - especially GFE - are as reliable as when a guy says a lady is a "10" in looks and the best he has ever had.

Unless of course by GFE you mean, BBBJ on your birthday and you better not come in my mouth if you know what's good for you. And if you think you are ever going to put that up my butt, then honey, you need another girlfriend or that lump in your pants ought to be the HOPE diamond.

  alert top

ClueGiver ClueGiver rating
Charter Member
1479 posts, 8 feedbacks, 16 points
14-Apr-06, 10:42 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to ClueGiver ClueGiver profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
8. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
GFE is pretty generally considered to mean:

BBBJ
DFK
DATY
Multiple Orgasms

PSE is not so easily defined.

CG

  alert top

avantimbottom avantimbottom rating
Charter Member
1421 posts, 6 feedbacks, 12 points
14-Apr-06, 10:45 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to avantimbottom avantimbottom profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
9. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
   Okay, I'll give it one more shot.
GFE-I recall the term popping up here round the turn of the century in the Strip Club forum. Then and there, GFE typically referred to what they called "that huggy cake crap". i.e., getting laid or whatever with the extra added bonus of hugging, kissing and intimate contact that wasn't necessarily sex act related.

Of late, GFE seems to be a catch all phrase by providers that can imply anything going beyond lying back and spreading 'em. Implied in GFE is bareback.

I'm guessing on PSE, but it seems to describe well, having sex with a porn star. Practical definition? Watch porns. Lots of writhing around, high energy, lots of vocalizations/dirty talk. I'm guessing she has to look like a mainstream porn star as well.

  alert top

ClueGiver ClueGiver rating
Charter Member
1479 posts, 8 feedbacks, 16 points
14-Apr-06, 10:56 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to ClueGiver ClueGiver profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
10. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.9
 
Sorry, but you are mistaken.

>Of late, GFE seems to be a catch all phrase by providers
>that can imply anything going beyond lying back and
>spreading 'em. Implied in GFE is bareback.

For at least several years, the usual, generally accepted definition of GFE has been as I posted above. It's pretty specific. And it implies bare back blow jobs--but covered full sex.

PSE, as I mentioned above, is a lot less easily defined. Your dfinition is as good as any, I guess. Actually, you could make an argument that PSE might imply BBFS. But I don't think most girls who use the term would mean that...

CG

  alert top

NiceWork NiceWork rating
Charter Member
1128 posts, 10 feedbacks, 19 points
14-Apr-06, 11:16 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to NiceWork NiceWork profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
11. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
   LAST EDITED ON 14-Apr-06 AT 11:19 PM (PST)
 
These weren't the original definitions, but gradually GFE came to mean free flow of bodily fluids. PSE means GFE plus anal. But if you ask a girl if she's GFE you won't get an answer that conforms to those definitions. It's only RB E411 forum guys who use those definitions to describe girls' services to each other.

  alert top

deChat deChat rating
Charter Member
5785 posts, 18 feedbacks, 34 points
15-Apr-06, 00:37 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to deChat deChat profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
12. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
LAST EDITED ON 15-Apr-06 AT 01:03 AM (PST)
 
It's funny to me that whenever this question comes up, there are always a few RBrs. here who jump in to insist that GFE must include a menu-list of specific sex acts.

Even RB's 'official' list of terms and acronyms doesn't insist on a strict laundry list of acts, it says typiclly ....

GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG

GFE was actually used originally by certain providers to describe their sessions (in their ads, mostly) and by hobbyists in their reviews to summarize their overall impressions. The sessions may or may not have included BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, MSOG, etc.

A certain group RBrs kept insisting that a session was not, to them, a "girlfriend experience" if certain sex acts were not included. To tell you the truth, some of the arguments that were presented made me wonder whether some of these guys had actually ever had long-term sexual relationships with real girlfriends or not.

But enough people seem to understand GFE only in the context of a sexual menu, so I decided a while back to use the term "RB GFE" as a short-hand for the above list. However I've had sessions that were totally GFE even though they were not RB GFE, as well as RB GFE sessions that were not girlfriend-like at all.

In the end, GFE means only what the writer/poster intends it to mean. After all, even the most insistent "GFE definers" find themselves having to ask a provider what she means if she uses the term in her ad.


deChat


p.s. PSE, to me at least, is a session that gives you the same feeling you get from having sex with a pornstar. And to tell you the truth, other than the transitory thrill from getting dirty with a hottie you've fantasized while watching her vids, pornstar sex isn't all that different imho than non-pornstar sex. What's more important than the label are whether the two of you click and her sexual attitudes (and appetites) overall. Some pornstars are renown for looking good on camera but being terrible lovers; some memorable lovers I know are too camera-shy to ever have their 'performances' caught on tape. It really depends on the person...

  alert top

Jarturn
Charter Member
281 posts, Rate Jarturn
15-Apr-06, 09:23 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to Jarturn Jarturn profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
13. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.12
 
   PSE would definitely be swallowing, those are rare

  alert top

ydining50
Member since 11-Aug-05
20 posts
17-Apr-06, 11:45 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to ydining50 ydining50 profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
15. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.12
 
   GFE means only what the writer/poster intends it to mean

Exactly - and the definition should be flexible.
Passionate DFK and expert CBJ is all I need to consider someone a great GFE.

Ydining

  alert top

Chewbaka
Member since 28-Mar-05
289 posts, Rate Chewbaka
17-Apr-06, 01:32 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to Chewbaka Chewbaka profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
16. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.15
 
GFE is as meaningful these days as "all natural" and "free range", basically a trendy catch phrase that means nothing but these vultures use to lure unsuspecting folk assuming they mean a certain thing. I cant count how many times a girl has said she is GFE but when I get to the session they wont kiss or wont bbbj or whatever.

  alert top

geneon geneon rating
Member since 3-Apr-06
1286 posts, 8 feedbacks, 16 points
18-Apr-06, 10:38 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to geneon geneon profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
17. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.16
 
   Wouldn't facials also be included for a PSE?

  alert top

randy62 randy62 rating
Charter Member
2556 posts, 5 feedbacks, 10 points
20-Apr-06, 10:35 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to randy62 randy62 profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
18. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions YAWN"
In response to message.17
 
   If you have to ask then it's not worth explaining. If you have
seen a Sara Jay, Montana Gunn or even Anna Malle (rest in peace) then you would know. It really cannot be compared to GFE.

  alert top

bluethrills bluethrills rating
Charter Member
12512 posts, 76 feedbacks, 139 points
14-May-06, 08:24 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to bluethrills bluethrills profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
23. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.15
 
LAST EDITED ON 14-May-06 AT 08:27 AM (PST)
 
Ydining-->> GFE means only what the writer/poster intends it to mean
Exactly - and the definition should be flexible.
Passionate DFK and expert CBJ is all I need to consider someone a great GFE.

Ydining


That's precisely why there is so much confusion about the term, and it's liberal usage.

Your expectation of a GFE maybe different than some other RBer. And, to know exactly what you meant when the term is being thrown around is almost impossible. So, when reviews, ads, and discussions are being had there is huge disconnect.

From the providers perspective, it puts them in a vulnerable position as the hobbyist may expect more than what's delivered. From the hobbyist perspective, they may fell cheated out of a session -- provider did not deliver as advertised. It's a loose loose situation.

As alluded to in a number of posts:

GFE = Girl Friend Experience (generally that entails DFK, BBBJs, DATY, CFS, MSOG, and a great attitude)

PSE = Porn Star Experience (This includes GFE + other services such as CIM, etc. )

If there are other things or intangibles that we as a community would like to describe, lets create a new acronym. But, let's not dilute or confuse what acronyms have already been clearly defined.


Cheers,
- blue thrills


  alert top

drinkitdown drinkitdown rating
Charter Member
897 posts, 7 feedbacks, 14 points
24-Apr-06, 08:53 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to drinkitdown drinkitdown profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
19. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
PSE is doing EVERYTHING a porn star would do in the movies. Only difference is intercouse would be with a comdom. All the rest is good to go... She doesn't actually have to be a professional porn star to get PSE from a girl.

  alert top

purefct purefct rating
Member since 28-Oct-04
791 posts, 6 feedbacks, 12 points
06-May-06, 07:49 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to purefct purefct profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
20. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.19
 
Sounds like we need an FDA approved version of sex definitions! Guys want GFE to be all natural with full kissing and no rush, a lot of providers use it to lure you in but they have no intention of providing anything but as little as possible. PSE should be a very active and creative session which doesn't include greek unless expressley stated.

  alert top

mcplow1
Member since 29-Aug-05
120 posts, Rate mcplow1
07-May-06, 11:36 PM (PST)
Click to send private message to mcplow1 mcplow1 profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
21. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
   I am curious about providers who offer GFE and, for added $$, PSE. Specifically, Tatum Reed, a known porn star, offers both sessions. I have enjoyed her GFE (which, act for act, have been in line with the RB standard definition), but have never understood the enhanced visit. The only thing I could think of adding to the session is either a camera or BBFS. Has anyone spent the extra bucks?

Ultimately, if a provider uses the somewhat ambiguous terms GFE or PSE, a potential client should do a little research in the reviews to see what the provider actually means.

  alert top

zambi zambi rating
Member since 4-Apr-03
1087 posts, 13 feedbacks, 23 points
14-May-06, 01:01 AM (PST)
Click to send private message to zambi zambi profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
22. "RE: GFE, PSE definitions"
In response to message.0
 
  
If you see GFE in an ad on CL it doesn't mean shit!!

If PSE means pornstar experience (like your having sex
with a porn star) well that doesn't mean shit either ..
they could mean sex with a Vivid Video pornstar.

zambi

  alert top

conferences | forums | topics | previous topic | next topic

· reviews · join vip · terms of use · privacy
top · help · faq    ©2014 myRedBook S.A.