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mazinga_zed
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"Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 12-Feb-10 AT 05:11 PM (PST)
 
I am a newly minted sugardaddy. So far it's great. But I never really played this angle before. Any ideas or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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1. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
In response to message #0
 
   Perhaps there is a reason no one has responded to this yet that I'm missing... but I'll go out on a limb.

Like most relationships, starting off with a clear idea of what is expected of the relationship would be a good idea. Unlike most relationships, it's somewhat mandatory for efficient (and low stress) function. Be realistic about your expectations and what you're willing to offer. I've heard many a provider scoff at the idea of a sugar daddy because it would undercut their standard rates, while others enjoy the more relaxed (and reliable) terms that allow for more intimacy (used more as a reference than to suggest you seek a pro/non-pro).

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5. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
In response to message #1
 
   >Perhaps there is a reason no one has responded to this yet
>that I'm missing... but I'll go out on a limb.
>
>Like most relationships, starting off with a clear idea of
>what is expected of the relationship would be a good idea.
>Unlike most relationships, it's somewhat mandatory for
>efficient (and low stress) function. Be realistic about
>your expectations and what you're willing to offer. I've
>heard many a provider scoff at the idea of a sugar daddy
>because it would undercut their standard rates, while others
>enjoy the more relaxed (and reliable) terms that allow for
>more intimacy (used more as a reference than to suggest you
>seek a pro/non-pro).

It's more of the latter. She is the one looking for more intimacy. It became clear to me during our first time that she wasn't really a pro. I think she was attracted to me and just into the thrill of it all, as was I.

We have gone out socially a few times, and she introduced me to some of her friends. It was cool. It but it confused me a bit. She texted recently saying she felt bad asking for money, but needed help with the rent. I just was looking for some pointers as I never ended up here before.

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11. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   "She is the one looking for more intimacy. It became clear to me during our first time that she wasn't really a pro. I think she was attracted to me and just into the thrill of it all, as was I."

Probably time to sit down with her (and not right after having sex, with her cuddled up next to you in bed, either) and discuss your mutual needs, desires and expectations before proceeding further or someone (probably her) is gonna get hurt and upset. If she's really looking for a boyfriend and an ever-increasing level of emotional commitment, then you'll really have clarify what you're willing to provide and what you have no desire to do. Then, set out a clearly defined trial/probationary in which you can both evaluate if you are getting your respective needs met before making a more extended commitment to provide ongoing financial support.

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2. "do it so you'll learn not to do it"
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Never get emotionally attached. NEVER.

And never give her personal info about your assets.

And never give her personal info that could be used against you or against your friends.

In other words, lie to her.

That way, you're nurturing more personal relationships built on lies and deception and two sets of rules.

Therefore, you are best advised not to do it at all. But go ahead. In the end, most SDs learn that it's not something they wish to continue. There's only one way to learn.

SD relships are best kept to foreign environments. They work much better when you're living overseas.

Be the change
you wish to see

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3. "RE: do it so you'll learn not to do it"
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   Yes, NEVER get emotional! Been there, done that. Still hurting after almost 3 years

Just live for the moment so that you can enjoy the deed. After all, you are paying for it with hard earned money.

Good luck.

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26. "RE: do it so you'll learn not to do it"
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>> There's only one way to learn. <<

Ain't it the truth, and it seems that the acquisition of any or all of the combined knowledge and information in the world, and a great deal of subsequent solitary cerebral processing is only the first step toward success, failure, or something in between.

All can advise, counsel, weigh the odds, relate their experiences, and guess, but you will never really know how it will turn out till you apply all you know (and think you know) to your specific situation, and do it.

Always cover your ass, and don't extend yourself to the point it hurts, and don't waste your trust on the unworthy.

Someday you may want to share that trust with someone who is. If you let yourself get burned enough, you may hot have any left.

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4. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   >I am a newly minted sugardaddy.

"Newly minted" disqualifies you right there. You are out of your league and, a rare occasion, I have to agree with Oralio who posted further below: Don't do it. I suspect my reasons for saying this may vary some from his but the assessment is the same. These relationships are duplicitous by nature and if you do not have it in you to cut her off and kick her to the curb you are not made out for it. Now, I am not suggesting that this is what you should do but it is how she will view it when she becomes emotionally attached to you and "wants more" (as they all do at some point) and you have to be the man in the relationship and cut her loose. It is painful everytime you pull the trigger; that much is certain. My vote: You'll be back here for "relationship advice" before too long.

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32. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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LAST EDITED ON 17-Apr-10 AT 08:50 PM (PST)
 
When I was in my twenties, I had a couple of RL friends who had "sugar daddy"-type arrangements. One of my friends had two going at the same time.

I was married, raising kids and living on a military base - as square as could be.

Having traded my young years for a life as an NCO's wife,
I lived vicariously through these girlfriends and stories of their erotic/romantic ventures with their "sugar daddies".

In addition to making time for their much older lovers who supported them financially, both girls also dated young, studly, college boys with minimum wage jobs.

The sugar daddies wanted access to my friends whenever they felt the notion.

One of my friend's sugar daddies didn't want her to fall in love with him - but didn't want her sleeping with other men either. She ended up falling for one of the college boys she was sleeping with and broke her sugar daddy's heart.

My other friend fell for her "sugar daddy"; from all accounts - he kinda fell for my friend too.

Like the other sugar daddy - this one was also a high-powered business man with a type "A" personality - but he also had a wife and family.

OH THE TEARS AND DRAMA that went on for MONTHS!!!

Any woman I've ever known who was sleeping with a married man (whether the man supported her financially or not) always wanted that man to eventually leave his wife for HER.

IMO - the world of sugar daddies and sugar babies is too muddled and women - especially young ones do not know how to properly handle the situation indefinitely.

At least if you date an RB girl regularly - or even a few providers concurrently - there is usually a firewall between a provider's professional life and REAL LIFE lovers/relationships.

In this world, the paying gentleman and provider's "relationship" is clear.

A sugar daddy who spends a lot of quality time outside of the bedroom with the sugar baby runs the risk of boundaries getting blurred over time.

Enjoy the ride while it lasts - just don't be suprised if it ends badly.

All that being said - I wish you all the best.

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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6. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   LAST EDITED ON 15-Feb-10 AT 02:29 PM (PST)
 
Lots of threads on the topic. Maybe do a little search.

Piece of advice - don't lose perspective. #1 reason arrangements end.


I've managed to maintain a couple of multiple year arrangements and this has always been my #1 rule.

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13. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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>Lots of threads on the topic. Maybe do a little search.
>
>Piece of advice - don't lose perspective. #1 reason
>arrangements end.
>
he already has. this is not going to go well unless he defines it clearly for himself and quick as he is being played like a fool

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7. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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Just give the sugar babies what they want!

Have a Decadent Dianne Day

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8. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   LAST EDITED ON 16-Feb-10 AT 01:10 PM (PST)
 
>I am a newly minted sugardaddy.

As in paying but not getting laid? Are you out of your fuckin' mind?

If you mean you have a mistress, then have fun. All you have to do is make sure your wallet is full when you see her, and she will 'love' you forever. Right after she un-fills your wallet for you.


culo is a culo

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9. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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Go slow with caution. Do not let her into your private life and do not get involved into hers!!! That is the only way a true sugerdaddy relation ship works out. I have a very close friend that has been involved in one for 2 years running. He gets what he wants(sex any time any way) and she gets what she wants($$$$$$). It has taken him 4 times to figure out this sugerdaddy thing. He says it is the only way it will work for either party. Good luck and have fun Hope that helps

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10. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   If you have tendancies to fall for women easily, DO NOT DO IT. I've pretty much stuck with non-pros for several years and you must stay detached from the emotional side of the relationship or it will eat you up.

I have a couple that I've seen on and off for years, but I have many that I'll date for a few weeks then move on. The girls who need monthly help with all of their bills aren't who you want to date. The ones who have gotten into debt on credit cards or tuition are perfect, because eventually their debt is gone and they aren't relying on you for their living expenses.

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18. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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I agree!!!

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12. "Are you single/unattached? It changes the dynamics."
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   I second MA's comment:

"The girls who need monthly help with all of their bills aren't who you want to date. The ones who have gotten into debt on credit cards or tuition are perfect, because eventually their debt is gone and they aren't relying on you for their living expenses."

But it is what it is. As others have said, handle mutual expectations with great care. Otherwise, drama aplenty.

A Happy Trick Makes a Happy Hoe.

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14. "RE: Are you single/unattached? It changes the dynamics."
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   I actually prefer it the other way around.

The girls that need the fast payoff are always trouble. They need the $ fast and are almost always seeing multiple guys or are hitting on you hard to pay off that debt or get you to commit to more $ than you can afford. They will vanish once the debt is gone (not always but alot of times) or work you too hard to kick more $ than you want. I've had two of these in the last couple of months. They were fucking hot so I went along with it until I got bored with them then passed.

The others that need some additional help on a regular basis are the best in my experience. Not as desperate and typically are more into the sex as much as the $. These are the girls that you can have the long term kick ass relationship with. Keep perspective and you can keep a couple in the stable for months/years like me a lot of guys here posting are doing.

Regardless of the situation, when you get bored of them, you say good bye and move on to the next one.


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15. "RE: Are you single/unattached? It changes the dynamics."
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I've never been a Sugar Daddy but have played w/ Sugar Babies. More than likely you will learn through trial and error- try to be wise while you two compromise.

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16. "RE: Are you single/unattached? It changes the dynamics."
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You don't have problems with the dumped girls stalking you?

Be the change
you wish to see

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17. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   Update: I took a break from all contact for a few weeks. I just wanted to chill her out a bit and get her used to me not always around for her. After meeting her friends and family I knew I needed some time off. I am not looking for a real girlfriend. I have an SO. This is just something I do on the side for fun.

Going forward my plan is to keep the mystery and excitement up by not being too predictable. Get really intense and then with draw. Buy her shit and be sweet to her. Then next time be demanding and forceful. This way I keep her guessing and I stay in control.

Thanks for all the opinions and advice.

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19. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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Met her family??? Uh Oh.

Of course for me that would be a good thing. Usually when I met a girls family, they liked me. So then she would dump me.

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21. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   I can't fully support other people on the board going the emotional-hands-off route completely, but keeping emotions at arms' length definitely has validity to it.

To be clear: you have a SO, and she wants you to meet her family and friends; you did (probably validating her desire for greater intimacy) and are now playing "catch and release" with her to keep it interesting/mysterious since it's "just fun?" Okay. Even if the guilt over asking for the money or sharing her life with you is a ruse, what Dellsnorto wrote is seems most responsible:

> "Probably time to sit down with her (and not right after having sex, with her cuddled up next to you in bed, either) and discuss your mutual needs, desires and expectations before proceeding further or someone (probably her) is gonna get hurt and upset. If she's really looking for a boyfriend and an ever-increasing level of emotional commitment, then you'll really have clarify what you're willing to provide and what you have no desire to do. Then, set out a clearly defined trial/probationary in which you can both evaluate if you are getting your respective needs met before making a more extended commitment to provide ongoing financial support."

Honestly, at this point, it sounds like you're playing with fire.

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24. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-Feb-10 AT 11:21 AM (PST)
 
>I can't fully support other people on the board going the
>emotional-hands-off route completely, but keeping emotions
>at arms' length definitely has validity to it.
>
>To be clear: you have a SO, and she wants you to meet her
>family and friends; you did (probably validating her desire
>for greater intimacy) and are now playing "catch and
>release" with her to keep it interesting/mysterious since
>it's "just fun?" Okay. Even if the guilt over asking for
>the money or sharing her life with you is a ruse, what
>Dellsnorto wrote is seems most responsible:
>
>> "Probably time to sit down with her (and not right after having sex, with her cuddled up next to you in bed, either) and discuss your mutual needs, desires and expectations before proceeding further or someone (probably her) is gonna get hurt and upset. If she's really looking for a boyfriend and an ever-increasing level of emotional commitment, then you'll really have clarify what you're willing to provide and what you have no desire to do. Then, set out a clearly defined trial/probationary in which you can both evaluate if you are getting your respective needs met before making a more extended commitment to provide ongoing financial support."
>
>Honestly, at this point, it sounds like you're playing with
>fire.

This is the most sound advice so far. As to playing with fire... I am prone to engage in risk taking behavior. Obviously, so is she.

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25. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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She doesn't sound like sugar baby material.

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20. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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You are just a walking ATM to her and when the dust clear you will feel used and abused.

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22. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   I like watching other peoples lives blow up especially when it's not mine. Dangerous game my freind. I don't have a SO and your story scares me. I have had a woman stalk me before and it's scary shit. Thats why standard providers are a better deal, you give them the donation and you receive a session, a win-win situation. Keep us informed later on when the train comes off the tracks. And playing head games on a sweet young woman is just plain mean. Be careful out there.

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23. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   Dude if you end up that way you're TOTALLY playing the sugar daddy game wrong!


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28. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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>You are just a walking ATM to her and when the dust clear
>you will feel used and abused.

get what you give huh 'q', in your case what 10bucks at a time for being a lousy PO?, or do you try and hang out in the living room still? How many girls have had to chnage their phone number you pest?

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29. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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Deep pockets.


I don't have a solution but I admire the problem.

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31. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   What was the question?

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33. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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just treat her with respect and you will go a long ways ok

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34. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   BE YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES , AND TRY NOT TO BE AN A** HOLE . LOOK 4 GOOD GIRLS AND NOT GOLD DIGGERS

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35. "RE: Looking for Advice on Being a Good Sugardaddy"
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   Yeah, don't be late with the check.

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