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Rak_Helion
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23-Jul-10, 09:20 AM (PST)
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"Too much fun?"
 
   Apologies for this being long-winded.

27 years ago I met this girl, Viet, came with her family to this country just two days before the fall of Saigon. She was just starting college, I had just graduated a few months earlier. We fell in love and half a year later we were having sex. It was great. Four years later we got married. We had children, well spaced, with plenty of time before the first child to go on romantic vacations. I was happy but as the years passed she was increasingly unhappy. I think it is safe to say that interracial marriages are hard, couple that with the fact that she was born in another country and - well I knew going in that it was a serious challenge.

Nevertheless, two years ago when I found out that she was having an "emotional affair" with another Viet man I was shocked and devastated. I had been completely faithful to her all the years we were together, more than a quarter of a century during which I had never even hugged a woman other than relatives. I had looked at enough pictures of naked women in magazines and later the internet so I can hardly claim to be pure, but my thoughts had never come close to deeds. I begged her to "work on our marriage" and she rejected this idea. For more than a year I tried to convince her to return to me emotionally, to no avail.

At first she was guilty enough to continue to let me make love to her and for a few months it was very good sex indeed but as time passed she realized that she didn't want or need to go through the motions of pretending that we were still a couple and so sex became less frequent and less of an emotionally connecting activity until finally, it was like fucking a dead fish. So I moved out of her room. To outward appearances we are still a couple but all we had in common was our children and our house.

Three months ago my wife told me she was filing for divorce and so, feeling miserable, I went looking for female companionship. I discovered this site and I started seeing some of the K-girls who advertise here. I must say that spending an hour with these girls is really, really pleasurable. They remind me of the girl I met and fell in love with 25 years ago, prettier but with poorer English.

My quandary is this: are these K-girls bad for me psychologically? Am I going to find that they are a habit which I can't kick? Will I be unable to connect with real women in the future? I mean, what could be easier, you call one up, you leave 200 dollars on a table, and just like that she is naked and willing to have sex. And what downsides? No police, no (visible) pimps, nice well-appointed rooms, and such soft and beautiful woman to make love to. I know one comment compared seeing the women on this site to taking drugs, does anyone else think so?

My bottom line: this is the most fun I've had in years and its a bit scary. I feel like a child in a candy store with lots of money to spend.

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FirmWorm FirmWorm rating
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23-Jul-10, 09:26 AM (PST)
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1. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   >seeing the women on this site to taking drugs, does anyone else think so?

Yah, it's pretty much the same thing? Some people can control their habits, some can't.

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23-Jul-10, 05:55 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-Jul-10 AT 05:55 PM (PST)
 
Downsides
-You have no emotional connection.
-You don't have good communication.
-Only surface level connectivity.
-You can relate. (emotional, social)
-Getting laid does not replace person to person bonding.

Upsides
-You get laid.
-You get laid by hot chicks.
-You have freedom.
-You're not subject to emotional blackmail.
-It's cheaper in the long run.

You will never replace a relationship with an AAMP/AMP session.

Questions to ask
-What do you think about dating?
-What do your kids think about the divorce and parents dating?
-What do you want? (an orgasm, a companion, a friend, fuck buddy)

Better recommendation . . .
Save up for a few months and head to Asia.

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Rak_Helion
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23-Jul-10, 10:21 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   "Head to Asia". Yes, that thought has crossed my mind over the last few months. Find a nice eager (gold-digging?!?) Viet or Chinese girl to replace the ex. But that would be really expensive! Because I would have to marry the girl, otherwise... well it would be wrong to bring a girl back her just for sex. And I can't go, not now, not for any extended period of time. Maybe in a few years.

So, I'm pretty limited by the choices here the Bay Area. Not that I'm complaining, far from it.

As to what I want, always a good question, and I really don't know. I'm in an emotional state that is unrecognizable to me. For sure I want sex with beautiful young Asian women. But beyond that? Companionship, love, perhaps even marriage again, someday.

Seriously thinking of going the SD/SB route.

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CLingus
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24-Jul-10, 08:48 AM (PST)
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4. "No, Too much fun!"
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Drill baby, drill!

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25-Jul-10, 01:03 AM (PST)
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5. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   Just as a golfer: Use yer stick, try to put the ball(s) in the hole, FIV to retreive your ball(s). Really addictive, indeed.

Now just be careful with your funds for living.

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Rak_Helion
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25-Jul-10, 08:51 AM (PST)
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6. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   Re the golf metaphor: that is funny.

On a slightly more serious note, I am a firm believer in the classical maxim: Moderation in all things. Sadly I failed to live up to that precept in earlier years and became addicted to an online game. I thought I was playing moderately but that was only in comparison to other people who apparently live their life entirely "in game". Hopefully I have learned something and can remain moderate in this new hobby.

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27-Jul-10, 02:31 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Too much fun?"
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LAST EDITED ON 27-Jul-10 AT 02:39 PM (PST)
 
One of the guys on RB uses the tag line, "Everything in moderation, including moderation." I think that sums up hobbying pretty well.

Here are some things to consider as you work out what you want to do:

Keep track of your money. Set up some kind of a recreation piggy bank. Don't use credit. Sticking to a budget for hobbying, the SBs allowance, whatever, can be a circuit breaker that keeps things from getting out of control.

Don't confuse pay-for-play with love. Part of the art of being a provider, and at it's best it is an art, is creating illusion. It's a very enjoyable illusion, and in some cases a real personal chemistry may develop. However, as you'll often read here, translating a provider relationship to civilian life is very difficult indeed.

Broaden your horizons. Spending time with pretty young women is a stopgap. Use your breakup as an opportunity to explore interests and pursuits you may have set aside when you got married. Or try something totally different. You may develop some new perspectives that help you redirect your life.

Don't give up on love. This may sound strange now. But after the current pain subsides, you will find that there are many women for which a man such as yourself could be a real prize. There's no do-over for the first marriage, but a very real opportunity to spend the second half of your life in a fulfilling relationship.

Good luck,
Aprime

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Rak_Helion
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28-Jul-10, 04:02 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: Too much fun?"
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   Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.

As an art form, it seems rather more fun that the typical museum (and I've been in more than a few).

I could go on about the role of Flower House girls in Imperial China and the Oiran in Japan but suffice to say by the moral norms of China, Korea, Vietnam, and Japan, the exchange of sex for money was not immoral. What was immoral was excess, for a man to spend large amounts of time and money on such women was wrong but it was the excess that was condemned, not the act as such.

There is much anecdotal evidence that girls could be brought out of the Flower House and formally added to a man's household as secondary wives (usually because they had given birth to that man's presumed son). So the idea of "falling in love" with a provider is an old one, and culturally well established in China (I can't speak to the other countries on this point, but it doesn't seem to have happened in Japan so far as I can tell). This does not mean it is (a) easy or (b) workable in the modern world. Still, one wonders...

Not having been raised a Confucian myself, I have doubts about the morality of my behavior. Perhaps that adds to the experience?

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9. "So, you are in your late 40's to early 50's"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Jul-10 AT 09:20 AM (PST)
 
I'd say either date (Bay Area Asian babes) away like usefulidiot is doing or go to Asia to bring back another young babe, good for another 10 years of hot sex.

You can search his posts on why & how etc. in the archives. lol

Make her job easier-be a fuckable john.

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