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"Strippernomics, cont."
 
I must say I found the previous strippernomics thread facinating and thought provoking. Indeed, compelling arguments from opposing camps were set forth. Since I have not performed the rigorous market research that is surely called for to resolve the questions raised,
I am left to draw conclusions based on my own limited experiences, and those of a few associates who have shared their experiences and viewpoints.

While a few publicized incidents of professional athletes or Hollywood celebrity types dropping thousands or tens of thousands at a strip club can be found, these cases are so rare as to be insignificant to the industry as a whole. The reality on any given night is much more in the realm of the middle-class, and it's constituents (myself included)comprise the SC target market. This means for most, money spent at a strip club must come from somewhere else. In the case of a married, middle class SC patron, where said SC activies are kept on the Down-Low, 'missing' discretionary funds in excess of an occasional nice lunch may draw unwanted scrutiny, or at least provoke guilt that could manifest in unpredictable ways.

For me, these constraints translate into a per visit budget of 100.00, not exceeding one visit per month. I suppose this is modest by some standards, perhaps even squarely in the 'cheapskate'section. But as I said, it's not only myself, just not a large enough sample to attach alot of statistical significance:)

Now at less than our monthly cable and internet bill, I can bury $100/mo. without much (any) explanations. And it's usually more than enough to get some dancers' attention. If I don't go for 2 months,
I can 'save' the money for a two hundred dollar visit, although I seldom burn though the whole 2 hun. And since the $100 budget has to include the entrance fee, I use coupons or go off-peak in order to preserve my available funds for the girls.

'Big Spender' is a relative term. I usually get a least a couple lappers, sometimes a private show, and never stay without tipping every girl, unless its because she has a bad additude, and then most times I still will to try and cheer her up. I'm not looking for any more than this from my SC visits. And rarely have I felt 'priced out' or casually dismissed.

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1. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   interesting post...because you will not get a PS at MBOT for that amount i am guessing your club of choice has to be MSC or CH?
CH, for ex.:

I can't understand how that frugal amount stated allows a couple of lappers ($40 + tip), a PS ($100 + tip) plus 'happy hour' entrance fee ($15)-based on your description of your per visit budget of $100.

suspect that you don't indulge in both LD and PS on any given visit.

Congrats, anyway; you are truly an outlier on the Bell Curve of PL expenditures.

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3. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   If you have $200, you can come in to CH at the happy hour entrance fee, get a PS, a couple of regular LD's and still have $45 to tip dancers on stage and leave with some change in your pocket.

I think that was probably my pattern when I first went to the place - and it used to be easy to operate that way on Saturday afternoons when they were snoozy dancer-wise.

Now when every shift can be packed with dancers, it's tougher - for me, anyway.

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2. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   I can certainly commiserate as one who to have to scramble to creatively segregate "discretionary funds."

I remedied the situation by simply setting up a separate personal account with a set direct deposit.

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4. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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Marriage sucks bigtime.

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5. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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I go into Cheetahs for lunch with $20 in my pocket. After eating as much chicken pork and potato salad as I can, 1 1/2 hours later I leave with change left over.

I am single and I AM A M-O-T-H-E-R-F-U-C-K-E-R

screwed my brains out. what's your excuse?

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7. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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fuck you.

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6. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   Big spender indeed is a relative term. I don't see any TRs about people throwing around 4 figures anymore. Thank goodness for that. Made my self-worth feel worthless.

On the low dollar side of the spectrum, I occasionally go into CH with just a tad over 100. Those nights are usually spur of the moment and become what I call my "audition nights". More of my time is spent stage-side with one or 2 lap dances at best.

Even though I go on the cheap, those nights get me in trouble. It's no fun calling it "audition night" if I hit up my regulars. Problem is, for every few duds or no-chemistry girls i waste a 20 or a bunch of singles on, I'll find one that is a keeper. "Lucky me", the ones I've stumbled across lately seem to stick around for a longer duration than before. When a deliberate night comes rolling around, I kick myself for not bringing enough money. Kick myself harder for bringing a lot.

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8. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   >Big spender indeed is a relative term. I don't see any TRs
>about people throwing around 4 figures anymore. Thank
>goodness for that. Made my self-worth feel worthless.

Back about the height of the Dot.com craziness, I privately corresponded with an MBOT matinee aficionado who went through $140K in about 6 months.

Oh, the tales he had to tell!

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9. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   >>Big spender indeed is a relative term. I don't see any TRs
>>about people throwing around 4 figures anymore. Thank
>>goodness for that. Made my self-worth feel worthless.


Roland,

That's the one of the reasons why we, who are Polite Losers, never mention how much a PS or an "average" trip to CH cost in our TR's.

Before Time Limits (aka the pauli exclusion rule), we who were Preferred Losers always got more songs per hundred than your average run of the mill PL. Again, it did no one, dancer or me, any good to flaunt my good fortune and good standing with the dancers.

The another reason to be discreet about money is because some of the dancers feel slighted when they read about how many more songs (or how much more money) another dancer got from me on a given night than she got from me on the same night. I never play any head games with any of the dancers. One of the stupidest head games that some of the biggest losers try to play with the dancers is to play one dancer off against another. All of the dancers hate it and despise the losers who try it.

However, in the interest of sharing and for the mathematically adept, just divide by three and multiply by 100 (post Time Limits) and you'll be in the right ball park.

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10. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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I think the Broadway clubs are generally regarded as less appealing
to the strip club aficionado as MBOT or CH, but when you find the right girl,sometimes are hard to beat. Case in point, Roaring 20's.

Went on a 'Two For' Tuesday, matinee shift. $5.00 (thats right) to get in. Had a full-nude PS with plenty of contact for $60.00 from Whiskey. Only because it was Tuesday, all privates and lappers are doubles. Then if you wait 'till the DJ annouces the 2-for 1 deal,
you get a triple length show for the same price. This works for lappers too, except it's only $20. And no room fee. I don't know if thats always(still) the case or what. Add 20-25 for stage tips, there's another sub-$100.00 strip club visit.

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12. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   "I think the Broadway clubs are generally regarded as less appealing
to the strip club aficionado as MBOT or CH, but when you find the right girl,sometimes are hard to beat. Case in point, Roaring 20's."

I concur. Case in point, Hustler club.

However, anyone can hit a stoke of luck at ANY given club, but on average, the Broadway clubs fall short of the mark when compared to CH and MBOT where high CONTACT & MILEAGE are standard...

Thanks, Eddie/Elvis

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13. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 05:49 PM (PST)
 
Kadink,

In recent memory, I can't think of a single trip to a SC in which I spent less than $100.00. However, you are quite right about how a good time can be had if you find the right dancer at the right time at one of the smaller NB clubs.

The NB clubs are just too hit or miss for me to spend much time hoping to get lucky, so I spend most of my time and money at CH, where all but two of my favorite dancers dance.

Now that I've thought about it, the only sub-100$ trip to a SC that I can even recall was back in 1996 or 1997. It had to be the very first time I ever stepped foot into CH. It was a Saturday afternoon and the Happy Hour price of admission was only $10.00 (iirc) and there were only four dancers on the floor and I appeared to be the first and only customer in the Horse. Nothing against the four day shift dancers, but they weren't my "type", so I left without getting any dances. After leaving CH, I walked up to Deja Vu/Centerfolds in North Beach. I also wasn't particular taken by any of the day shift dancers at DJV/CF, so I wended my way back to MBOT, where I spent considerably more than $100.00.

In 1996 or 1997, a few hundred dollars went a long ways at MBOT. Those were the days of $10.00 lap dances in NYL and the CineStage room. And there were no meters or dance chips!


"Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we choose
We'd fight and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way."

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14. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 05:56 PM (PST)
 

"Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day..."


i concur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFKsaFziS5s

----- BEN ---- MANGO ----- PAULI ------ HOT DOG ----
thanks, 5mb.

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11. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 05:37 PM (PST)
 
pauli, maybe u got played. maybe the horsie took your wristwatch and slowed time down while u were in the zone. maybe the horsie applied the uncertainty principle on u. u may think u got more time per hundred than your average run of the mill PL, when it was the horsie who played a game of TIME on u.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7czS5m3z0

thanks, 5mb.

p.s. pauli, pleazzzzze. ben hates 2 read stuff. pleazze send your reply in the form of a video. that way, ben does not have to read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guFa6Ep1lOo

if you can touch the boobs and never lick them, then u can lick the boobs and never touch them. that's horise logic, as i know, and use it while i'm in the zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTwkPWvn9c

thanks, 5mb.

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15. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   Benjie,

I NEVER sit with a dancer who plays head, or any other type of, games with me as a customer!

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16. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   On a recent trip to the horse I decided to indulge with Angeli for my first LD after seeing her beautifully tanned body up on stage. She has got to have one of the nicest asses in the place, and a relaxed personality. Anyways, she has always delivered a nice grind and that day had me smiling after just 2 $20 LDs. Definitely got out with less than $100 spent that day! There was a time when the LDs could be satisfying in and of themselves without the dancer hoping for an upsell to a private, and Angeli knows how to deliver them.

I almost got that experience with Precious yesterday. She and I lost count of the songs for just a $20 LD. She started out like she didn't know how to grind, but then really turned it on. Next time I see her I'll probably break the $100 mark with a private show. Her stage show was fun, too. She said she's only been there 2 weeks.

Alana on the other hand asks for and gets more than the private fee and is worth it. That gal just oozes with sexuality.

Where is Midori, BTW?

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17. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   >On a recent trip to the horse I decided to indulge with
>Angeli for my first LD after seeing her beautifully tanned
>body up on stage. She has got to have one of the nicest
>asses in the place, and a relaxed personality. Anyways, she
>has always delivered a nice grind and that day had me
>smiling after just 2 $20 LDs. Definitely got out with less
>than $100 spent that day! There was a time when the LDs
>could be satisfying in and of themselves without the dancer
>hoping for an upsell to a private, and Angeli knows how to
>deliver them.
>
>I almost got that experience with Precious yesterday. She
>and I lost count of the songs for just a $20 LD. She
>started out like she didn't know how to grind, but then
>really turned it on. Next time I see her I'll probably
>break the $100 mark with a private show. Her stage show was
>fun, too. She said she's only been there 2 weeks.
>
>Alana on the other hand asks for and gets more than the
>private fee and is worth it. That gal just oozes with
>sexuality.
>
>Where is Midori, BTW?

Good question about the sexy Midori - one of the coolest dancers in the place, in my opinion.

Thanks for the info on Precious - I didn't get a dance when I saw her last week, but I had certainly been impressed with her.

My experience with Alana was that she asked for more money for more time in the PS, was willing to negotiate, delivered so delightfully that I gave her what she had originally requested. Sexxxyy!!

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19. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   I have to catch up with Angeli. Haven't seen her in years. What a sweetie!!

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18. "RE: Strippernomics, cont."
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   It's almost been a month. Have you gone back in?

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