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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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"My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 26-Aug-10 AT 04:14 PM (PST)
 
Another one of my friends just got banned for absolutely no reason. I think the club managers are just so rediculous. I mean I am a businessman myself. In business, you have to remember one thing: Turn big trouble into small trouble. And turn small trouble into nothing.

I mean lots of small trouble can be resolved. If you deal with a small trouble unfairly, it could turn ugly and grow into big trouble. So if a certain customer has issue with a certain dancer, just tell the customer "Look. Never speak to this dancer again, or else one day we might ask you to leave. Or call the club before you visit us. If this girl does not work tonight, you may enter. If she works tonight, I suggest you to visit another club." This way, the club keeps both the customer and the dancer. The last thing I would do is ban somebody, especially a regular.

Because let's say a regular spends $700 a month at a club, like me. Now that's $8400 a year. Since Im a regular, I might visit this same club for the next 20 years. So in 20 years I will spend $168000. You are losing it all because of some dumb ass complain made by a 20 year old dumb blonde. Besides, a strip club needs people to sit around just to make the strippers feel good. The last thing you want is to make the entire club empty like a morgue. Even if you have some regulars who come in a lot but hardly buy lap dances, hey at least they are clapping their hands when the dancers finished dancing. At least they tip a few dollars and that paid for the gasoline fee for the dancers. And once awhile they will buy a lap dance here and there. If you think that those customers are dispensable and simply don't respect them, then go ahead and ban them all and see what's going to happen. What's going to happen is your club will be empty like a morgue. Girls feel bad dancing in an empty club. And soon they will leave and look for a job somewhere else.

Man, if I am the owner, I won't hire anyone to be manager who can't think nor anyone who can't calculate.

And if I am the manager, I would work something out with the dancer. I would go up to the dancer and say, "Listen, from now on if this customer gives you any trouble, I will force this customer to pay you $150 for VIP room. If he does not pay, I will kick him out." I swear the God if that day the manager demanded me to buy a VIP room and resolve the issue, I would have done it. The girl earns the money, and I get to re-enter the club. Win win situation for all.

See maybe that's the reason Im a millionaire and the managers are not. If they think like that, they would be owning and running their own clubs.

If you are a club owner and you are reading this, considering hiring me to be your top manager. Serious proposal. I have visited all your clubs and I know who runs the clubs well and who you should fire. I earned millions for myself, and I can earn millions for you, or at least keep your business healthy during the bad economy. I know exactly which managers should be fired due to stubborn policies and which managers to trust.

Hiring a club manager is very different from hiring a manager for a restaurant or manager to manage apartments. Because a strip club manager needs to know how to do business. You have to charge lap dance fees and VIP room fees reasonably. Too high, you drive away customers. Too low, you lose money. And you have to know how to keep girls and customers happy at the same time. You have to be smooth. You need to deal with people without friction. You cannot just ban this customer and fire that girl when you are not happy. If you do that your club will be in a wrack in no time. It's very easy to turn some top club into a wrack within 3 months. So managers or bouncers that only know how to ban people or fire girls should be fired immediately and hire some managers who are more smooth. Any manager who doesn't know how to do business and only know how to carry out duty like a soldier should not be running the club.

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26-Aug-10, 09:59 PM (PST)
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1. "Everything happens for a reason"
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   > Another one of my friends just got banned for absolutely no reason.

This is undoubtedly a lie. If your friends are all as fucked up as you are (which some of them apparently are), there was definitely a reason. You are insinuating that the ban is because you don't spend much money. Well, neither do I, and I've spent a LOT of time in strip clubs, and have NEVER been banned.

So, why do they pick on you and your friends? Likely, because you are so weird, and so socially inept (even by PL standards) that you creep the girls out. Get it? You make them UNCOMFORTABLE when you stand by them, talk to them, ask them to KISS you, and what ever else you don that I can't imagine, or don't want to try to imagine.

Don't come crying to us that you and your friends have been unfairly banned, we know better.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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2. "RE: Everything happens for a reason"
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   Well, I got banned because of personal reasons. It all started because of a girl, then her friend got involved. Anyways I got banned because they are all angry at me. So I would not say I am 100% innocent. It's partially my fault.

But my friend who got banned this time, trust me he didn't do shit. Just got banned for absolutely no reason.

Just want to remind the club owners that when you ban a regular customer, you are throwing away about $130,000. Because the customers would have come to your club for the next 20 years. But when you banned him, he stops coming right now. So think about that next time when you are ready to ban a regular customer. I mean if I am the owner I would not do that. I would resolve the problem with a cheaper method. Tell the customer that a certain girl is pissed off at him and he better apologize by buying that girl a $100 lap dance or something. Then problem solved.

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3. "RE: Everything happens for a reason"
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   Yeah there has to be some reason he set the club off.

Im usually pretty supportive of your sc issues, but this one makes no sense Manhattan. To get banned for no reason but doing absolutely nothing, cuts against the grain of logic.

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4. "RE: Everything happens for a reason"
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LAST EDITED ON 27-Aug-10 AT 02:32 AM (PST)
 
I would not be surprised if they banned him because they either thought he was you, or knew you were a good friend of his. Guilt by association.

Who knows, he could have thought your friend was your lackey.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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5. "RE: Everything happens for a reason"
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   OK, now you said it. You know what? That's exactly the reason.

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7. "RE: Everything happens for a reason"
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   That makes sense. He was doing something, he was being a person who knew you Manhattan.

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27-Aug-10, 01:26 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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He got banned by the same girl who got you kicked out. Guilty by association.

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27-Aug-10, 05:19 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   I got warned once for staring at one of my favorites. What the heck are you supposed to do in s strip club anyhow???? CC

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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9. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   Long ago at hustler I got warned once for sticking a dollar bill into a woman's bra. WTF? They are strippers right?

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TheMuffDiver
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27-Aug-10, 10:48 PM (PST)
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11. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   "Long ago at hustler I got warned once for sticking a dollar bill into a woman's bra. WTF? They are strippers right?"

That is actually quite dangerous. You could have given her a paper cut.

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28-Aug-10, 03:12 PM (PST)
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21. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   Cc,

It's never polite to stare, not even in a SC.

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Apollo355 Apollo355 rating
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10. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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LAST EDITED ON 27-Aug-10 AT 08:03 PM (PST)
 
Honestly dude I don't think you have a clue about the stripclub business. You see things the way you do as a customer but in reality the general stripclub goers behave differently. And it is why the clubs operate the way they do to monetize that behavior.

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12. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   Manhattan, if you're such a good business man with millions of dollars why don't you just open your own strip club? Why would you want to manage someone's club and make them millions of dollars when you could make the money for yourself? You could even audition all the strippers by having them give you a lap dance to see if they are hot enough to work in your club.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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13. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   Actually, I was only joking. I am going to be a politician in the future. So I cannot manage a strip club because that would affect my reputation.

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14. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 00:09 AM (PST)
 
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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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15. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   Oh c'mon. What you gonna say? You know me. I won't be mad unless you try to use millionaireloser's account.

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16. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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You could be a politician in China, but here in America, you'd be laughed off the stage. No joke: your Chinese accent makes you sound like an idiot, and no one will vote for you. However, you're a very good businessman though. Check out these listings of strip clubs for sale:

http://www.stripclubs4sale.com/all.php

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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17. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   In a few years everything in this country will be run by Chinese. So no voting needed.

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18. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   No, the anti-chinese race riots will have begun long before that. By refusing to assimilate, by contrary behavior, by displaying anti-social obnoxious attitudes, chinese will be the targets of the dispossesed, downtrodden and chronic umemployed. It will eventually cause the camps at Manzanar and Tule Lake to reopen. So Alex or ML or manhattan or whatever your many handles, remember this carefully. By making smug inflametory pronouncements on this website it reinforfces in the minds of these dolts that chinese are strange, bizarre, unreasonable people and are responsible for this country's misfortunes. Then watch them congregate in front of your Pacifica mansion with torches and gasoline or loot and destroy the market on Hwy 1 outside of Pacifica due to chinese ownership.

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19. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   The reason why they voted Obama in is white people are tired of white president. A white president can't solve real problems. All they know is how to borrow more and spend more. So they voted in a black president. That's even worse. Next they will simply get a Chinese guy to run the country. And when a Chinese sits in the office, there will be no American style democracy. Everything the Chinese style. But the country can be fixed up like new.

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20. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-Aug-10 AT 10:31 AM (PST)
 
You silly silly man. Every white hate group that reads your post gives them impetus to target chinese. California and US history has shown the chinese to be the favorite whipping boy of the extreme right and you play right into their hands with these senseless statements. Do you have any appreciation for what the early chinese endured in the gold fields...murder, robbery, extortion, assaults just because of pigtails. No other ethnic group in US history was EVER singled out for exclusionary legislation in immigrating to this country. Even as late as 1943, alien chinese were not allowed to own real property in San Francisco. Yeah Alex, come out with another zinger to grab people's attention...it's all a game to you.

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22. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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After MSC became a Deja Vu club they instituted a no hat policy.
So when I came in one particular evening, I was asked to remove my hat and obliged. Then after I was seated, I put my hat back on rather than hold it or lay it on the next chair. 5 minutes later the bouncer came out and using profanity with connotation of violence, ordered me to remove my hat.

Now I have no quarrel with an establishment requiring patrons adhere to a dress code. Silly as it may be in a strip club, that's their business. But he should have asked me politely, rather than come with that macho bullshit. So I told him I needed to keep my head covered due to an embarrassing case of dandruff:). A second stiff had emerged by this point, apparently ready for a scuffle. Of course, the other patrons and dancers found our little dust-up much more interesting the the lack-luster stageshow, for that matter the guy upstairs was shining his spotlight on us(WTF?)

Even though it was two of them against one of me, I sensed having the upper hand. He had made a hollow threat, and I dismissed it with
derision. He seemed at a loss for a response, to where I was feeling kind of sorry for the poor chap and actually considered going to the floor with him just to break the stalemate. But you know, it was MSC (yuck) so I just took my hat off.

They returned to their posts, I changed seats, and the other people didn't get any special entertainment that night. But when I left, maybe 1-1/2 hours later, the guy at the ticket window told me don't come back. So I haven't. The place sucks anyway.

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25. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   mr fuking bnizz man 2

do not get started on anything about obama paleeeez, our country is worst off than ever and you will make yourself look like a bigger fool if thats even possible

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23. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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   My suggestion, ML, is that you and all your handles stop wasting your time posting here and take your complaints and suggestions directly to the strip club managers. I'm sure they will be glad for the feedback.

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24. "RE: My suggestion to club owners about banning someone"
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They kicked him out. That's probably why he and his lackeys are here venting.

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