1) The thumb identificatioin device DOES NOT track time. It only identifies who entered the room so that the entertainer cannot claim when she pays out that she was never there and consequently owes the club nothing. Prior the tracking device an entertainer would claim that she never entered the area and argue about being charged for performing a dance. The tracking device elininates this problem and the payout now goes smoothly and quickly. If you have 35 girls paying out and each girl take 1 minutes to do so all you need is one girl delaying the process by disputing the number of dances she performed and making the 10 girls behind her in line very upset. We have found it to be a great system as well as the entertainers.

To be fair, I must admit that on a rare occasion the dance tracker would write down an incorrct entertainer's name (the old system of paper and pencil) when they would walk by his work station and the wrong girl would be charged. The security camera ultimately resolved the matter but with a lot of effort. The current system removes much of the old problems.

2) A customer cannot easily vote a million times. Once a vote is cast from an ISP address that address is blocked from voting again. My wife could not even vote for my club becasue I had already voted from our home PC. If she wanted to vote she could go out of her way and use the public library or an internet cafe PC but she did not want to go through the hassle.

Voting was tightly controlled and monitored by ED Magazine. The CH was notified that 16 of its votes were not counted because the 16 votes appeared to be from one person even though it was several of our entertainers all voting near the same point in time. I did not really understand why the 16 votes stood out as a problem but my point in telling you this is to try and cause you to understand the multiple voting was strictly contolled.

I used to go to SCs, and have visited them in most major cities. SC vary from topless only/air dance places to no holes barred places. The liberalness of the clubs vary from city to city and over time in the same city.

St Loius had some loose clubs at one time, but that went away. Tampa/Ybor was famous for their clubs - they have beautiful women and contact LDs, but that was it. Vegas clubs have been up and down over the years. Dallas had some fun clubs for awhile, then they cracked down on them. Ditto KC. NYC, Boston, Denver, Chicago never really had a great SC scene. To be fair NYC had one club, but it shut down 10 years ago. Atlanta and Baltimore had some decent clubs, but I have not been in a long time.

SF is the only city that has consistently had liberal SCs. MBOT set the tone, and and the other clubs follow suit. So it is easy to believe that a SF club won the vote. But I thought it would be MBOT - easily the best SC in the US. But CH winning is a minor upset only.

>2) A customer cannot easily vote a million times. ....Voting was tightly controlled and monitored by ED Magazine.

Ah, IP spoofing by any moderately motivated, semi-talented nerd can easily be abused to run up vote totals.

culo is a culo

What's the quantity of clientele at MBOT as compared to CH these days? Every club is fairly slow - if CH has people voting because they came in on porn star feature nights, that gives them a voting advantage over MBOT.

Big Dog 4 president.

Ben also would like a link to the published results.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files2/2093zw1650d3v7d5.jpg

Big Dog, i envy your style; you got game. you look so kool.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files2/nqr9g1k0ev93k0cv.jpg

thanks, 5mb.

on the second question "are there any links to the published results?", ben is still working on that, when he is in the present, but from the snap shot below, it says it was announced at some convention. did anybody go and shot it and uploaded it on youtube?

There was (maybe still is) a place called Lipstixx or something like that in Tampa that might have fit the bill.