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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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"Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
 
   Yeah I would actually like to speak to the owners. Man I see the way how some managers run the club and I simply think the owners are losing lots of money due to poor management. You see, the owners of these clubs are not extremely wealthy. Let's say 2 or 3 owners own the entire broadway clubs. Each chip in 3 million? But out of the 3 million each chip in, probably 2 million is borrowed money from the bank. So each owner needs to pay at least $13000 mortgage to the bank each month. Plus other expenses.

In reality, there are only a few strip clubs in SF. So no advertising needed. That's good. So the only way to earn money is to have good price, good policy, and loyal customers. That means the owners must be hands on. take care of each customers and skip the managers, who think they are all that. They will never care about your business the way you care about it.

Yeah can somebody tell me who owns these clubs and maybe tell me how I can contact these people. I hope they are not snobbish people.

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1. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   To operate a business, one has to obtain a business license from the local government which is public record. The name of the person or corporation who owns the business with relevant contact info will be on it.

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2. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   The owners don't run the day to day operations of the DV clubs. They wouldn't want to talk to you anyway, so don't go getting yourself into any more trouble than you already have. Maybe Craig, the owner of CH will talk to you. He seems pretty tolerant. Start there. Just a suggestion.

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3. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Sep-10 AT 12:56 PM (PST)
 
>The owners don't run the day to day operations of the DV
>clubs. They wouldn't want to talk to you anyway, so don't
>go getting yourself into any more trouble than you already
>have. Maybe Craig, the owner of CH will talk to you. He
>seems pretty tolerant. Start there. Just a suggestion.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID11/20992.html#5

What happened?

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4. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Sep-10 AT 01:33 PM (PST)
 
Ya know, I'd hate to see him get beat up by the DV guys and I can tell he doesn't know better. You'd try to stop a train wreck, even if it was an idiot driving, wouldn't you?

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5. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   I'd throw this idiot in between.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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6. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Oh I don't even visit their clubs anymore. I just like to talk to the owner about how to avoid losing money. I mean as a businessman to businessman chat.

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TheMuffDiver
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7. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Why would those guys want to talk to you? The clubs on Broadway are own by a big chain. Those guys have a lot more money than you.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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8. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   You really think they have more money than me? So each of these guys have at least 4 million dollars net worth? Do you know how much 4 million net worth is?

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Apollo355 Apollo355 rating
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9. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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LAST EDITED ON 03-Sep-10 AT 11:36 PM (PST)
 
You really want to know who the ACTUAL owner of of these clubs is? He's the main shareholder of DejaVu and his name is Harry Mohney. The dude is worth $100M+. What do you have?

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10. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Honestly, Apollo, how are you friends with manhattan and ML? Those guys are borderline delusional.

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11. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   LOL, Club Owners generate a solid 7 figures a year. They don't dwell over just 1 person who they don't even know.

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12. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Unless Manhattan can impact their lives in anyway. No one is going to take him serious. So much talk and no action.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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14. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   I told you I cannot perform any action in this case because I planned on being a politician in future. Im not going to let strip club affect my reputation. I just want to let the owners be aware of this particular case. That's all.

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13. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 05:24 AM (PST)
 
I have about 2.5 million in this economy. Man, by the way you guys talk, I know you guys are not big business people. I actually own buildings and operate business. So I know how business people are. In reality business is tough. I think the guy you were talking about is the franchise owner. Now that guy could worth a lot. I would not say 100 million. But maybe 10 million. Put it this way, the franchise owner of McDonalds probably has 2 billion networth, now that's 2000 million. Daja Vu? Not much people heard of it. So the franchise owner is lucky if he has 10 million networth. But who owns the clubs on broadway? The Franchise owner only sells the trademark and brand to the indevidual club owners. Now I am asking who are the actual owners of the clubs of broadway in SF. Now those guys are like indevidual owners who own 1 or 2 McDonalds in Daly City or 1 or 2 KFC in downtown. Those indevidual owners are probably my level. Because these clubs would go for 1 or 2 million, not including property. If you buy a McDonald in downtown, it probably worth that much. I can buy a McDonald if I want.

I know Sam Conti is not extremely wealthy, like he has 15 or 20 million. Because for christ sake look at what he drives, a 70s Rolls Royce, like my Rolls Royce. Those are $10,000 to $20,000 car. A man who has 20 million would drive a much more expensive car. His other car Jaguar mark 9 also costs less than $15,000. So business people who own a club or 2 might fool you common people, making you guys think they worth like 20 million. But to me, they nothing. Because I know the market. I thought about buying clubs and restaurants. I did research.

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15. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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What you don't understand is that dejavu owns like 70 clubs throughout the country and Canada, not just SF. So they have many clubs that generate big profits, and some that loose money that they write off. These guys make like 30 to 40 cents on every dollar they invest. So it's still a cash cow business.

You keep talking about your buildings. But honestly I don't you generate that much cash.

I laughed when you entertain the idea of going into litigation battle with them without substantial evidence... Like a bee attacking an elephant.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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18. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   No, Apollo, you don't understand how franchise works. Daja Vu is just like McDonalds. First, if you want to open up a Daja Vu, you have to ask the franchise owner for a licensing fee, which might be around $50,000. McDonald's licensing fee is about half million. But McDonald is almost guaranteed to earn money, so half million is fair. Then each month Daja Vu franchise receives maybe 5% to 15% of the net profit from owners of indevidual stores. I think on Broadway only Dejavu store is Showgirls and Centerfolds. The rest like Little Darlings and Garden Eden do not belong to the system, and therefore these smaller stores don't have to pay franchise fee to Deja Vu.

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20. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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No YOU don't understand lol. DejaVu isn't a franchise. They own all of their clubs outright.

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21. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Then who's Sam Conti? Isn't that guy one of the owners? What about the middle eastern man that Victory talks about? I think you are the one who's confused.

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22. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Once upon a time the clubs on Broadway were independently run. One day Deja Vu stepped in and bought out many of them, and now they are all a part of that chain. You cannot call up Deja Vu and tell them that you want to run a strip club and have them set you up. They are not McDonald's, KFC, or Pizza Hut. They are more like Starbucks. For a business man, you do not know much about business.

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23. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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I don't know about those 2 characters but I do know that DejaVu doesn't license their trademark to independent owners like you describe. You start a stripclub.. and if you get successful then they try to buy you out like a monopoly. That's been the case with most of those SF clubs.

You are the one who's confused.

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24. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   This guy is so STUPID I can't stand it. Hey, you're information is WRONG!!!!! Sam Conti DIED last year you ignorant fool! DV has NO franchises! Everything you say is complete fantasy and has NO foundation in reality. STOP irritating everyone and find a way to NOT spam the board with idiotic drivel. You have shown that you are completely confused and a poor excuse for a human. Maybe you should stop posting until you actually know what you're talking about! Right now you apparently know very little except how to CREEP OUT every dancer you have ever talked to. How do you look at yourself in the mirror and not be disgusted? Just give up your interest in SCs already. You DO NOT fit in and that's why you and your equally CREEPY friends have been banned. These business' don't throw out customers lightly you know.

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manhattan2 manhattan2 rating
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25. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   I know Sam Conti died, because I was at his funeral. And what do you mean Deja Vu is not a franchise? Any chain store is a franchise. There is more than 30 Deja Vu stores around the nation. And both " Showgirls" and "Deja Vu" are registered trademark. So what do you mean its not a franchise? I don't understand. I tell you what's not a franchise. If you own 2 or 3 coin laundry places in town, then you can run them all by yourself. Each has a different business name. Then that's not a franchise. But when your stores are nationalwide, and you cannot visit every store yourself, so you need to hire managers in each state to run it, then its a franchise. Got it? It could be semi family business and semi corporation. But when you have stores nationwide and trademark on all your slogans, etc. then you are a franchise. No way around it.

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16. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   You act like a very big man with only $2.5M. I know quite a few people with more than that and they don't buy $10,000 Rolls Royce to try to impress people. They just act like regular people.

BTW, I don't think Deja Vu franchise their clubs like McDonald's do. I mean, if I owned a club why would I need a Deja Vu name behind it? Will that bring more people in?

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17. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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one of my relatives used to own a strip club and sold it for about 3 million. But this was about 15 years ago or so.

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19. "RE: Oh yeah how to I contact the owners of these clubs"
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   Oh for example the name centerfolds or showgirls are known nation wide. Plus they provide training. It's true, you don't need to open up a strip club with Deja Vu franchise at all. You can just open up a strip club with your own name and brand. For example "Crazy ladies" or "Sexy Ladies" etc. But you have to provide your own training and you need the experience of running the club. Deja Vu people will not train you or give you assistance.

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