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   Why Exxon won't produce more oil

The energy giant is being managed to achieve an acceptable investment return for shareholders, not for the benefit of consumers. Less supply of crude oil means higher prices -- and record profits.

By BusinessWeek

Reports of slackening demand sent oil down another 2.5% on Thursday to $101.84 per barrel. Crude prices have declined 7.6% since the beginning of the week. Not long ago, that would have been an astonishing plunge that shook the trading establishment. These days? Nah, that's just the ho-hum volatility in the oil market. But how is it that crude can still trade above $100 a barrel, three times what it sold for at the start of the decade, despite a very wobbly economy?

If you want to understand that, it helps to listen in to ExxonMobil's (XOM, news, msgs) presentation to analysts in New York City in early March. Halfway through the three-hour meeting, Exxon management flashed a chart that showed the company's worldwide oil production staying flat through 2012.

Ponder that for a minute. Exxon is the largest publicly traded company in the energy business. In fact, it's the most profitable company in the history of capitalism, earning a record $40.6 billion last year on sales of $404 billion. Yet even with crude oil prices near all-time highs, Exxon isn't planning on producing any more oil four years from now than it did last year.

That means the company's oil output won't even keep pace with its own projections of worldwide oil demand growth of 1.3% a year.

Imagine a chief executive of another growth company making a similar announcement to that of Exxon Chairman Rex Tillerson. What if Steve Jobs said Apple (AAPL, news, msgs) wasn't going to sell any more iPhones than it did in 2007? What if Howard Schultz said latte production at Starbucks (SBUX, news, msgs) would stagnate, at least until the next U.S. president embarked on his or her re-election campaign? Shares of both companies would plummet. After the management presentations, Tillerson took questions from the audience. The first hand that shot up was that of Deutsche Bank (DB, news, msgs) oil analyst Paul Sankey, who wanted to know why the company wasn't showing any volume growth.

"We don't start with a volume target and then work backwards," Tillerson explained. Instead, he said, his team examines the available investment opportunities, figures out what prices they'll likely get for that output down the road and places its bets accordingly. "It really goes back to what is an acceptable investment return for us," Tillerson said. In other words, producing more barrels just to ease prices for consumers is not part of the company's calculations.

Last year, ExxonMobil led the industry with a return on capital of 32%.

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Exxon chief sees growth opportunities

As production costs escalate, ExxonMobil is forced to significantly boost capital spending just to maintain oil and gas reserves near existing levels.Exxon's flat oil forecast was even more surprising because it came during a meeting when the company was trumpeting a big increase in capital expenditures -- to at least $25 billion a year going forward, up from $21 billion last year.

The company also outlined a slew of big projects, 12 of which are starting up this year. These include the 600 million barrel Kizomba C development off the coast of Angola that began producing on New Year's Day and another in a string of giant liquefied natural gas facilities in Qatar. Unlike oil, Exxon's production of natural gas -- much of it liquefied and shipped in tankers to Asia and Europe -- is projected to climb over the next four years.

Continued: More for dividends and stock buybacks

But how could oil production be flat? Peer into Exxon's historical numbers and you see the problem Tillerson faces. Since 2000, Exxon's oil output from two of its largest regions, the United States and Europe, declined a startling 37%. That's 500,000 fewer barrels a day in just seven years.

Exxon reported 100,000 fewer barrels per day last year alone due to the nature of the contracts big oil companies sign with countries such as Angola and Nigeria. In such contracts, foreign companies put up the capital to fund new projects, and they are paid back in barrels. If oil prices rise above certain levels, Exxon gets to keep fewer of those barrels as profit for itself.

Exxon plans on bringing new fields online in Russia, the Middle East and Africa over the next four years, but they won't be enough to generate growth beyond what the company is losing due to the maturation of its fields in the North Sea and Alaska, the nationalization of its fields in Venezuela and volumes lost due to those production-sharing agreements with other countries.

"It has always been a challenge to grow volumes when you are working off of a base as large as ours," Tillerson told the analysts.

Indeed, Tillerson got more bad news Tuesday when a British judge freed up the foreign assets that Exxon had sought to freeze in its ongoing dispute with the government of Venezuela.

Exxon's flat forecast was, in a way, an admission of what's been an open secret for the industry. Big oil companies almost always forecast production growth but they rarely make their own targets. In 2002, shortly after its big merger with Texaco, Chevron (CVX, news, msgs) was producing nearly 2.7 million barrels per day of oil and natural gas worldwide, and Chairman David O'Reilly said the company would increase its volumes by as much as 3% a year by 2006. Last year the company produced an average of just 2.6 million barrels per day. A spokesman for the company says it, too, lost barrels to production-sharing agreements and changes in contract terms in Venezuela. The company is maintaining a 3% annual growth target through 2010, however.

Could Exxon spend more and generate more growth? Probably. Even with its increased capital spending, the company still spent 70% more on dividends and stock buybacks last year ($38 billion) than it did reinvesting in its business. Tillerson noted that share buybacks in the past have boosted the average stockholder's share of the company's oil production by 20% over the past five years.

In other words. even though the company's volumes haven't grown, fewer shares outstanding mean more barrels per share for each remaining shareholder.

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Exxon chief sees growth opportunities

As production costs escalate, ExxonMobil is forced to significantly boost capital spending just to maintain oil and gas reserves near existing levels.Lysle Brinker, who follows Exxon for the research firm John S. Herold, figures that given the company's capital outlays, Tillerson can keep replacing the oil and natural gas he sells. That way the company won't shrink, even if it doesn't grow.

Big oil companies can continually miss their targets or even target no growth and still shine on Wall Street due to the peculiar nature of commodity businesses. Less supply of a commodity means higher prices. Higher oil prices mean more profits for the oil companies.

Exxon shares have risen 18% in the past year -- and even closed a bit higher on March 5, the day of its analysts meeting.

This article was reported and written by Christopher Palmeri for BusinessWeek.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/WhyExxonWontProduceMore.aspx

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1. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-May-08 AT 07:40 AM (PST)
 
>>>The energy giant is being managed to achieve an acceptable investment return for shareholders, not for the benefit of consumers.

Well, at least other industries care about their country:

Like the giant telecom's that wiretapped American's without warrants to protect (Americans) out of PATRIOTISM, until they TURNED THEM OFF when the payments were late. They desereve immunity from present and future prosecution though for their contribution to the flagpin.

The reality is amoral and short-term focused. Its all about the net profits, not the future of the planet, not the future of America. For awhile there was a win-win movement in big business that actually acknowledged value that traded short-term profits and revenues for greater good and long-term rewards but they don't give $400 million dollar bonuses to CEO's for wisdom.

There is a history of big corporations, like General Motors, cooperating and building fighter engines and stuff with the Germans AND the Americans in WWII, just-in-case. Their idea of patriotism and win-win for their owners.

Since corporations now have the rights of individuals, do they not have the responsibilities???? That is THE question, and it goes right to the heart of non-regulated capitalism.

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8. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Enron economics...

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15. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   LAST EDITED ON 15-May-08 AT 07:46 AM (PST)
 
>The reality is amoral and short-term focused. Its all about
>the net profits, not the future of the planet, not the
>future of America.

That's really not much different than the focus of the average American. It's all about getting a paycheck, picking up the kids, paying for $3.75/gal gas, and still having enough money left to eat. Many Americans have time to THINK about saving the planet, but most Americans DON'T have time to actually DO anything about it.

That's pretty much true for most corporations, too. They are focused on making a profit, because they are in a VERY COMPETITIVE global economy where making a profit consumes all their time.

How do you propose that (US) corporations be incented to worry about the "future of the planet" when their foreign counterparts don't have to spend time (MONEY) worrying about it?

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17. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Every President in memory has referred to energy as a strategic
natural resource. And people on both sides of the isle have agreed
with that. So let's accept that at face value.

Do you find it even slightly odd that the driving force in the
management of that resource is shareholder value? As opposed to a
common good, i.e the future of the country?

If that is the very best way to manage resources, then shouldn't we
turn all water rights over to the private sector? Ditto public
safety, i.e. police, and fire departments. Ditto public education.
Ditto national defense.

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21. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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>Do you find it even slightly odd that the driving force in
>the
> management of that resource is shareholder value? As
>opposed to a
>common good, i.e the future of the country?

Corporations are driven to maximize shareholder value. That's what corporations do, and we probably shouldn't fuck with that, because a RATIONAL national energy policy and the profit motives of corporations can exist together on this planet.

If you want a rational national energy policy, you have to change the way WASHINGTON does business - NOT the way corporations do business.

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22. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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You mean like those pesky Cafe standards, or the Clean Air Act
stuff? Or the refusal to turn all of our publicly held resources
over to privet concerns to be mined, drilled, and deforested?

Care to eleborate on how these mutally exclusive goals, shareholder
value and a national policy for the common good, can peacfully
coexists and propser like Bambi and Godzilla at pond in the glen?

Or do you just speak jingo?

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2. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Producing oil is one thing....it's the refining capacity that's the problem.

Didn't see jack shit about that in your little piece. Not a word....wonder why........

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3. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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>Why Exxon won't produce more oil
>
>The energy giant is being managed to achieve an acceptable
>investment return for shareholders, not for the benefit of
>consumers. Less supply of crude oil means higher prices --
>and record profits.
---
Except there is no lack of supply at all.

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4. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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There is a bottleneck of refining capacity.

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5. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Or that's what they say.
I don't know why they would lie.
Could it be money?

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6. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Oh, come on. That's been THE reason we have always heard since I can remember going back over 30 years.

If you don't really believe it, why waste our time posting it?

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7. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   As I suggested before it might be useful to look at Exxon's own future analysis through 2030 here :

http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/news_pub_sar_2007.pdf

The fact that they are buying their own shares back is a commentary on how well they think their business will do in the future. I may just add Exxon to my stock investment list.... because if I am buying and selling oil at the same time (Exxon and the pump), I'm guessing I am going to break even on my gas price with my stock increase. Almost like my own personal hedge fund.....

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11. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   >I'm guessing I am going to break even on my gas price with my stock increase. Almost like my own personal hedge fund.....
>
And there you have capitalism 2008 at it's essence - With every big loser there's always a big winner. Someone's misfortune becomes someone else's fortune. Someone had to make out big on the Bear Stearns collapse.

I am so so happy for your fortune.

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16. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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>>I'm guessing I am going to break even on my gas price with my stock increase. Almost like my own personal hedge fund.....
>>
>And there you have capitalism 2008 at it's essence - With
>every big loser there's always a big winner. Someone's
>misfortune becomes someone else's fortune. Someone had to
>make out big on the Bear Stearns collapse.
>
>I am so so happy for your fortune.

That's an interestingly oversimplified view of capitalism.

It isn't capitalism that's causing all the problems for us right now. It's the tax code and the lack of public campaign financing.

The income tax is basically a political tool for pandering. It ultimately rewards and dis-incents certain behaviors. But there is no LONG TERM plan regarding income taxation - just short term political maneuvering. Thus the income tax has become a giant patchwork of political pandering that creates unwanted - and often conflicting - inefficiencies in our economy. The income tax has become like a patient who is taking too many different medications and the mixture is creating havoc in the body.

For example:

*There is a tax deduction for your mortgage that rewards home ownership.

*There is a tax on interest income that dis-incents savings and creates an unbalanced motivation to either invest in stocks, etc or CONSUME.

* The stimulus package which is designed to produce consumption, but essentially fuels inflation, and reduces the value of the dollar...which pushes oil prices higher.

There are all kinds of income tax rewards and penalties that ultimately create inefficiencies in our economy and:
* reduce basic SAVINGS for all Americans
* incent CONSUMPTION for all Americans
* provide tax rewards for POLITICAL reasons without regard for the good of the country

We need to replace the income tax with a national sales tax. That's the RIGHT thing to do.

But Congress won't start doing what's RIGHT FOR AMERICA until they STOP working for special interests and start working for us. That wont happen until we adopt public campaign financing.

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19. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   "And there you have capitalism 2008 at it's essence - With every big loser there's always a big winner. Someone's misfortune becomes someone else's fortune. Someone had to make out big on the Bear Stearns collapse."

You are quite mistaken. The stock market is not an equal sum game. We all can win and we all can lose. Recheck your economic theory. If you want to talk commodities, then yes you are correct. For instance who made it big on Bear Stearns? No one. All lost. Who made it big on WCOM, no one. Who made it big on ENRN, no one. Who made it big on XON, everyone. GOOG, everyone. See how it works?

"I am so so happy for your fortune. "

Dude, you don't have to be happy for me. Be happy for you, I gave you a nice way to save some money...


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23. "Where's the money?"
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   >For instance who made it big on Bear Stearns? No one.

There was money to be made on Bear Stearns credit default swaps or more simply bets, which is what the taxpayer was made to eat as they watched their neighbor's house foreclose.

The Fed allowed a type of betting through off book entities called "structured investment vehicles."

Credit default swaps were vehicles but set up to avoid regulation and insured these vehicles for investors. Someone ended up with these insured investments.

The American public had to take on these securities because no one else would take them on. The homeowner caught up in the sub prime fraud was also a loser.

At least in commodity trading there is a hedging; Las Vegas betting is hedged, yet the banks neglected to hedge.

In 2007 a financier dude by the name of Paulson made $10 billion betting sub prime loans would not pay off. This money is not going back into our economy and creating jobs.

Goldman Sachs won big summer 2007 and reversed their position on subprimes coming out roses.

These entities at the very least, should have been regulated by Commodities Future Exchange.

We are rewarding people for sitting at their computer and making bets.

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24. "RE: Where's the money?"
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   > >For instance who made it big on Bear Stearns? No one.
>
>There was money to be made on Bear Stearns credit default
>swaps or more simply bets, which is what the taxpayer was
>made to eat as they watched their neighbor's house
>foreclose.

And yet Bear Stearns is out of business. Hmmnnn, I guess they didn't make that much.

>
>The Fed allowed a type of betting through off book entities
>called "structured investment vehicles."
>
>Credit default swaps were vehicles but set up to avoid
>regulation and insured these vehicles for investors. Someone
>ended up with these insured investments.

So I guess the INSURER is taking the loss then? Someone is losing.


>The American public had to take on these securities because
>no one else would take them on. The homeowner caught up in
>the sub prime fraud was also a loser.
>
>At least in commodity trading there is a hedging; Las Vegas
>betting is hedged, yet the banks neglected to hedge.
>

You may want to read up on commodity trading and vegas. Commodity markets were originally set up so as to ALLOW companies to hedge, however the winner of the hedge makes as much as the loser of the hedge loses, zero sum game.

Vegas on the other hand, doesn't need to hedge anything. All the odds of betting are in the house's favor. You don't need to hedge when you hold all the cards.


>In 2007 a financier dude by the name of Paulson made $10
>billion betting sub prime loans would not pay off. This
>money is not going back into our economy and creating jobs.
>

If this was done in the futures market, then someone also lost $10 billion, so no change in the economy, zero sum game.


>Goldman Sachs won big summer 2007 and reversed their
>position on subprimes coming out roses.
>These entities at the very least, should have been regulated
>by Commodities Future Exchange.

Again, study up on commodities, your statements don't make any sense.

>
>We are rewarding people for sitting at their computer and
>making bets.

WE? The market is rewarding and the market is taking. WE have nothing to do with it.


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9. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   Of course Exxon is looking out for shareholder profits. Every corporation should.

That's what creates wealth for all stakeholders and for the country. A rising tide lifts all boats, and that rising tide has given every economic segment a better life.

But if your viewpoint is representative of the left, then they could easily gather together a few bucks and create a nonprofit oil company. I don't mean that facetiously; it is happening in software and there is no reason it can't happen for anything else.

Of course, if the left doesn't care about the people, then maybe this won't happen.

Grow up. For-profit corporations are created for profit.

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10. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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"RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
Posted by happyjack on 14-May-08 at 09:11 AM

Producing oil is one thing....it's the refining capacity that's the problem.

Didn't see jack shit about that in your little piece. Not a word....wonder why........

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_unc_dcu_nus_m.htm


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This is the dumbest fucking thing I've seen yet.

You provided a link to data that:

A.) Proves that there is not a shortage of US refining capability
since they aren't operating at anything close to capacity:


http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files/8z1vexz64zy8bv04.jpg

B.) That actual US refining output as a % of potential capacity
has declined to it's lowest level since 1991:


http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files/7z2zx2z31851f4e9.jpg

C.) That there has been a continuous expansion of US refining
capacity for the last two decades:


http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files/mvg4xx6w7wc982b7.jpg


Is there any other data you want to point us to that also completely
disproves your point?

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12. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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TGG:

The issue is in how the refineries can be used.

They cant make everything, all of the time, so there is a certain operational loss in efficiency due to switching between different products that need made, seasonal changes in grades of various products, and mandatory and regulated shutdowns and inspections of refinery operations. It takes days and sometimes weeks to change what is refined within a system at a refinery

12-15% is pretty thin, in reality.

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13. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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   Blocking much-needed ANWR oil wasn't enough, so enviros have also gotten the government to mandate plenty of switches seeking the perfect environmental blend of fuel. Perfect... keep as much oil as possible away from refineries, then keep the refineries from efficient production.

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25. "RE: Why Exxon won't produce more oil"
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Jacket..ANWR isnt needed.

There is no oil shortage.

Period.

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E4U - I'm not not suggesting that 100% is possible. What I'm pointing out is that they are not coming close to their own documented capacity and that there has been a continous expansion of that capacity.

Jacket1 - This is about as rational and compelling as blaming the man on the moon.

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