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"still waiting jack!!!"
 
   "Maybe you can tell us why Nader is wrong instead of posting this childish crap."

"You could not tell us why FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR Elizabeth de la Vega was wrong."

"Nor could atticus."

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID14/34797.html#5

...and atticus too!!!!!

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1. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
In response to message #0
 
Once again....let's make a little wager shall we?

Let's wager on whether or not Atticus has made a previous counter argument against Ms. de la Vega:

I say he has, and you say he hasn't.

I say I can find such a post.

What say you?

You want to bet a 60 day posting ban on me finding it?

I find it, you don't post for 60 DAYS! I fail to find it, I don't post.

My aim is not to keep you from posting, but to show how dishonest you are in remembering discussions that have been had many times before, and to show how much you rely on dishonest "circular argument" tactics to keep an issue going endlessly.

The wager is up......if you're going to keep posting childish threads like this to Atticus and I, then it's high time for you to step up and put the posting privileges you flaunt so casually up for sacrifice if you're proven WRONG!

No dodging, no weaving, no scurrying about like a house mouse running from the light.....just accept or decline and let your actions speak as to who and what you really are.

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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2. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Still waiting Longdong.........

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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3. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Still nothing, and it's been days.............

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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4. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Right you are.

When are we going to be continuing our Great Debate?

Pique seems to be waiting for you to agree to continue.

Whats up?

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5. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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LAST EDITED ON 22-May-08 AT 08:17 PM (PST)
 
I wasn't asked if I "agree" to continue. I got a note from him about you asking when we are continuing.

I don't understand the problem here....he picked a topic of yours to lead off yes?

We finished it, yes?

Now he is supposed to pick a topic of mine from those I submitted, let me know which one it is, and I'll write my opening.

I haven't heard a thing about my topic, and there isn't anything in my inbox on it.

That is the format we agreed to, so pester him.

Now, are you going to accept my wager in this thread or keep running? You have an EXTREMELY big mouth when you mistakenly think you have some advantage, but you are quiet as a church mouse when you know you'll get your clock cleaned..........is that what you are saying "right you are" too? LOL

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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6. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   "I haven't heard a thing about my topic, and there isn't anything in my inbox on it."

Hmm...

That is not what pique indicated.

He seems to be waiting for you to allow him to begin the next topic.

Whatever, I am pestering him about starting the next topic.

Will you pledge to pester him also?

I have no idea why pique should need permission from either you or I to carry on with the debate and start the next topic. We all know what the rules are and what the process is. We finish one topic, we then begin the next.

Why does he need permission from either of us to do so?

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9. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Dude, he's the mod...he picks the topics, and we submitted several each.

I've been as detailed about the rules (and consistent) as I can be, so I know how this is supposed to go.

Only he can answer your questions.

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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10. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Will you pledge to pester him about starting the next topic like I am doing?

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13. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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No. He has a response to me from the inbox he sent, and that's enough.

We're adults here aren't we? Why would I pester him. He certainly has not shown that he needs anything remotely resembling pestering.

Has it ever occurred to you that he's busy and just may have a signal crossed? There's no need to be impetuous.

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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14. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   "He certainly has not shown that he needs anything remotely resembling pestering."

Actually he has. I had to pester both him and you quite a bit in order to get the whole debate started.

"Has it ever occurred to you that he's busy and just may have a signal crossed?"

No it hasn't.

He was very clear with me via inbox that he was waiting for word from you before he would begin the next topic.

Have you told him very clearly that he can begin the next topic?

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15. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Still waiting jack....

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16. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Good for you! You wait very well.

Jack

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18. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   This is really incredible.

You taunt me for a year for not having the courage to engage you in a formal debate and when I finally accept your challenge you do everything in your power to weasel out of the debate.

Considering your performance in the first topic it is no wonder why.

I am not going to let you get away with it. You are not going to get out of this debate.

I will soon be setting ANOTHER deadline to continue after which you will be considered to have forfeited, or quit, the debate.

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19. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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~You taunt me for a year for not having the courage to engage you in a formal debate and when I finally accept your challenge you do everything in your power to weasel out of the debate.~

Not at all. I'm here, as are you, and as is our moderator. We all agreed to use a process. If it's not to your liking, that's not my problem.

~Considering your performance in the first topic it is no wonder why.~

My response was perfect for the topic.

~I am not going to let you get away with it. You are not going to get out of this debate.~

I don't want out longdong. Show me where I have said I wanted out? You can't. I CAN SHOW where you have threatened to back out though

~I will soon be setting ANOTHER deadline to continue after which you will be considered to have forfeited, or quit, the debate.~

Oh look, you were good enough to show how you were backing out again on your own! LOL

You don't get to set the deadlines anymore. You can't weasel out now.

We agreed to a process and pique_us as a moderator. He needs to select the next topic and forward it to me.

If you suddenly cannot confine yourself to the rules you agreed to, then feel free to forfeit AGAIN. We already know you are well versed in quitting when behind.

Then the score will be Jack 2 wins, longdong 2 losses.

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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20. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-May-08 AT 07:59 PM (PST)
 
"I'm here, as are you, and as is our moderator."

Yea jack!! We are all here! But the debate is stalled!

And according to pique, it is because you have not given him the ok to continue!!!

"My response was perfect for the topic."

And also pathetically weak.

"We agreed to a process and pique_us as a moderator. He needs to select the next topic and forward it to me."

No jack. He needs to select the next topic and post it. At that point you will have one week to post your opening essay.

Those are the rules.

"If you suddenly cannot confine yourself to the rules you agreed to, then feel free to forfeit AGAIN."

I am the one demanding that the rules be followed.

The deadline is coming.

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22. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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~But the debate is stalled!~

That's life sometimes......

~And according to pique, it is because you have not given him the ok to continue!!!~

That's not correct anymore. He has been made aware of his mistake. Also, it was nowhere in our rules he had to GET my permission to continue, so that's a straw dog by you. Nowhere in the rules was it indicated that the moderator checked with us for okays...he was to hold us to the rules.

Duh!

~And also pathetically weak.~

Just like the topic, and opening post

~No jack. He needs to select the next topic and post it.~

That's right, and that's what I am waiting for.

~At that point you will have one week to post your opening essay.~

Also what I am waiting for.

~Those are the rules.~

Yes, and you appear to be trying to change them....again...by issuing deadlines that you were never permitted to issue.

~I am the one demanding that the rules be followed.~

No, you are trying to change them...again.

Nowhere in our rules did we say WHEN pique_us had to select a topic, only that we had a limited time to post after he did!

So YOU ARE CHANGING THE RULES!!!!!!!! You're weaseling again!

If you make any attempt to issue another deadline, you forfeit. That will be TWO rules violations by you, the first being your previous deadline which i let slide.

YOU DO NOT DICTATE THIS DEBATE! pique_us does, and you can shove your deadlines and false allegations where the sun never shines.

I know you want a graceful way out of this debate, so you'll do whatever you have to do to quit again. It's your chief tactic.

Jack

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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23. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   "it was nowhere in our rules he had to GET my permission to continue"\

Then why did he tell me that was the case?

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17. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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I don't really care what you think you're "really clear" about longdong.

We have a process in place, a process you agreed to with NO modification.

I requested he pick one of my topics, and let me know what the choice is, and that I am ready.

That's all you need to know.

You know, you score ZERO points with your silly baiting posts. Many of us actually have lives and are busy.

You just may have to wait and wait and wait while we live them, and then get to you.

IOW, you are not a priority.

Jack

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21. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   The deadline is coming.

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24. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Then you forfeit. No rule changes, and you cannot issue deadlines.

pique_us dictates the pace of the debate when he selects and assigns the topics.

Repeatedly trying to blame me is a weasel tactic by you!


Oh, why are you still dodging my wager in this thread?

Probably for the same reason you're trying to weasel out of the debate....scared to death are you? LOL

Jack

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25. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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Lock

"If U were smarter, I'd have nothing 2 do"

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7. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Look. You guys are starting to act like a married couple going through a nasty divorce. I don't think many of us are interested in watching it.

Maybe you two could use inboxes for this type of personal pissing contest.

And you might consider marriage counselling while you're at it.

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8. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Maybe you could butt the fuck out.

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11. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 22-May-08 AT 11:39 PM (PST)
 
>Maybe you could butt the fuck out.

Why? Because this fight is just between you and your ex?

Look genius, if you want people to "butt the fuck out" don't post the thread in a public forum.

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12. "RE: still waiting jack!!!"
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   Oh you poor helpless baby!!!!!!!!!

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