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"What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
 
Setting aside the issue of whether or not the ACA is a good idea or not. If you have all the bright minds in Washington DC plus the resources of the Federal Government

Why has the roll out of the ACA exchanges been so fraught with computer problems? Hint: (it is not bandwidth)

The bills frame work more than likely started with Hillary Care back in the 90's. The notes the suggestions the additions and deletions more than likely produced huge volumes of useless computer code. Add to that the various sections of the legislation was parted out to various agencies and well you might start to understand the complexity of the problem.

Fundamentally there is one problem more than any other that prevents the ACA from functioning that being the inability of government to "Fire" anyone. To take control of the mission. To step on the "toes" of those unhelpful and give the work to someone who might be better skilled at the work at hand.

Legislation by consensus and not expediency.

Google could have done this for the US government. I'm not sure that even in ten years of working on the software we can expect the Government to produce a user friendly interface. (Especially if there are any codes included in the program that might have originated with Windows 95 or Windows Vista.)

At What point will American develop an attitude harmful to the Implementation

Since the Oct. 1 launch of state-based insurance web sites where uninsured Americans can shop for new health coverage, the exchanges have been riddled with computer problems causing crashes and error messages. Administrators for both state-run exchanges and those being managed by the federal government have brushed off concerns that the glitches mean the health care law is fundamentally flawed. They point out that the open enrollment period that began this month lasts until March 31, 2014, and the earliest new coverage can begin is Jan. 1, 2014.

Next year as the sign-up window starts to close the huge number of Americans forced into forming a line at the Government insurance window will make the problem worse not better as the number of days starts to dwindle.Aside from the risk that fewer people will get health coverage if web sites are not repaired soon, another long-term concern raised by the computer problems is the composition of the insurance pool. Says Joel Ario, who served as director of the Office of Health Insurance Exchanges at the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) from August 2010 to September 2011.
“The people who most need coverage will get it. They’ll be patient and they’ll work through the glitches. The people who don’t need it now will be less patient. The easier the enrollment, the better the chances of having a balanced insurance pool.”

If the coverage plans sold through the Obamacare exchanges are stacked with sicker and older Americans, insurers will have to raise prices for 2015 plans. If people balk at those premiums, the exchange system itself could be in danger.


Read more: http://nation.time.com/2013/10/09/time-running-out-for-obamacare-fixes/#ixzz2hEg8RdOw

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1. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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   This is all so predictable. It is a truism that "everything the government touches turns to shit!"

If you like going to the DMV, to the Post Office, to the IRS office then you are going to love Obomb-a care. All these sychophants who think they deserve something for nothing are lining up to get their health care and finding that they still have to pay premiums, they are getting less, more limitations etc. Fuck them. You people who voted for this farce deserve it and ACA will bankrupt the country. Fewer jobs, less health care quality and so on.

The Republicans are doing their best to kill this law, but greed and the belief that "you owe me" runs strong. Everyone will pay the price for this fiasco for the rest of their lives.

I know the usual libs will respond to my post with their snide remarks and condescending attitude. But I don't give a shit. I know I am right.

Ya'll have a real nice day...

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13. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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LAST EDITED ON 10-Oct-13 AT 02:40 AM (PST)
 
Wait!
I thought the man, said it was free?

You mean the 1% percent aren't paying for ALL of it?

I really wanted my "free" healthcare.

I was going to ride on my "free" $100 billion bullet train ( driven by highly paid Union members, even though the computer could do it all, but hey, gotta love union welfare) to my "free" college, where the 1% pay for everything and Obama said that I don't have to pay back my loan and then pick up my "free" food stamps.

And then go to my OWS rally where the cops can get double overtime, because me and my friends have nothing better to do than trash the system and hope the people that we demonize, pay for everything, because we are oppressed and lazy and like it that way.

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19. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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   Move to Somalia, there's no government there.

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2. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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Excuse #1:

People want it.

Excuse #2:

Who cares what you think, it's not going away.

Excuse #3:

You can fix a glitch, but you cant fix stupid.

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14. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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Oh it's going away brother trust. Even the hard core Lib's that I now suddenly realize that there is no such thing as "free". Would you like a fine with those fries?

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20. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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>Oh it's going away brother trust.
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Nah..it's not.

You're just waking up with wet sheets again.

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3. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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So I guess we can add computer programming and the workings of the Internet to the list of things you don't know jack shit about. Still, I'm optimistic. Just about everyone has some talent or skill that can prove useful.

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4. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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   ""What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches""

It's a new system intended to serve 300 million people. Are you really so goddamn obtuse that you would expect something like that to function perfectly on day 1?

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5. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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Probably, the same reason Medicare Part D was a boondoggle during its roll-out. Obviously, the main difference is that a Republican, GWB, was in the White House.

It wasn't class warfare until we fought back

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6. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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LAST EDITED ON 09-Oct-13 AT 06:17 PM (PST)
 
Same old Shit
No accountability.

Nobody is to blame, even though the Navigators(the people assisting those trying to enroll) are now saying that the product cannot possibly get everyone signed up in time for by next Marches deadline.

Nobody is going to get fired for wasting the governments money of that we can be sure.

And if nothing happens regarding the government shutdown in the next few weeks the ugly specter of a government looking into the personal lives of everyone that enrolls in the ACA has to be a goldmine for identity thieves. A kind of one stop shopping that not only provides sensitive identity information but also details that people will likely be blackmailed over, not to mention investigated by the IRS.

If dragging their feet accomplishes anything, the inconvenient questions on just what the government intends to do to protect the people from being signing up by a poorly designed product, written by people that would not make it in the private sector, that has minor technical glitches and dismissed as no big deal even after three and a half years of testing and never given background checks the lid will surely blowback on liberals.

http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2013/10/01/aca-navigators-should-be-required-to-get-background-checks/


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7. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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LAST EDITED ON 09-Oct-13 AT 07:19 PM (PST)
 
"by a poorly designed product, written by people that would not make it in the private sector"

The Obamacare exchanges were developed by private IT consulting companies contracted by the federal government.

You don't know much about how the real world works, do you?

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9. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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"Same old Shit" is right. Stevay posting stupid shit.

This is total voices in your head talking, and making no sense to anyone but you-"And if nothing happens regarding the government shutdown in the next few weeks the ugly specter of a government looking into the personal lives of everyone that enrolls in the ACA has to be a goldmine for identity thieves. A kind of one stop shopping that not only provides sensitive identity information but also details that people will likely be blackmailed over, not to mention investigated by the IRS."

Keep trying if it makes you feel better. I know I feel better when I laugh at your craziness.

Ceeman

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15. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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LAST EDITED ON 10-Oct-13 AT 07:55 AM (PST)
 
Spanky... You of course are not bothered by the Nexus of Medical, Tax, and Private Identity information all coming together at one Government agency. The very same agency that thought the ACA was an overhaul of the current system, Written and contributed to by thirty years of meddling malcontents determined to shackle this country with more burdensome legislation...

Couse not, let's forego discussion on the obvious.

Depending on your pay grade you might have Windows 98 or Window 8 workstation. If you are Barack Obama you have an Apple. Using the Lowest Common Denominator rule (which is one of the Ten Golden rules of Government) my guess is that The bulk of the work done on the ACA might have been done on Vista machines, which explains almost everything.

"Dozens of private firms had a role in developing the online insurance exchanges at the core of the health-care program and its Web site, working on contracts that collectively were worth hundreds of millions of dollars, according to a Government Accountability Office report in June.

The result has been particularly stark when compared with the slick, powerful computer systems built for Barack Obama’s presidential campaigns, which in 2008 harnessed the emerging power of social networking and in 2012 relied on aggressive data-mining efforts to identify and turn out voters. For those, the campaign recruited motivated young programmers, often from tech start-ups.
“The wizards from the campaign have no desire to contract with the federal government because it’s a pain in the butt,” said Clay Johnson, a veteran technologist for Democratic campaigns who pushes for procurement reform through his whimsically named start-up, the Department of Better Technology."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/some-say-health-care-sites-problems-highlight-flawed-federal-it-policies/2013/10/09/d558da42-30fe-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html?hpid=z3

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18. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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No, it's not lack of accountability. Did Apple go out of business after all the cluster-fucks involved with the iPhone roll-out?

I would rather see the systems bog down and error on the side of being too-slow-but-secure than error on the side of having security holes that allow identity theft. It's a HUGE target for hackers, and security MUST come first.

How many projects have you worked on with millions of electrical connections that did not have some fuck-ups. Electrical wires and switches are MUCH easier to troubleshoot than computer code that interacts with other parts of the system. Imagine trying to trouble shoot an outlet if the power to just that one breaker was cut off by another switch half a mile away. Computer programers constantly have to deal with those kinds of problems. Some problems--or security vulnerabilities--never show up until several conditions combine.

Intel had to pull hundreds of thousands of CPU's when a bizarre set of conditions caused the CPU's to yield wrong answers in a mathematical calculation. Despite being the world leaders in introducing trouble-free microprocessors, they STILL had the problems.

If HHS had ten years to work on the code, it would still have problems for three reasons:
1. Some things just require load before they show up.
2. Republicans would cut the funding they need since they have so much time. They would never get the resources needed to fully develop and test the system.
3. The politicians would change the requirements faster than the programmers could write and test code.

This is complicated stuff, and we want them to get it right. If the system remains a cluster fuck through the end of the year, then we should start taking about accountability and firing people.

It wasn't class warfare until we fought back

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22. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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   Have you tried to deal with, let's say, AT&T or Microsoft? Very hard to get through to humans and to resolve an issue, although both have been in business for years and are, in fact, in the information business. Not surprising that glitches are present in the roll out of the ACA.

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8. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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   So if there were no technical glitches you'd be ok with ACA? Riiiiiight.

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10. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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That response is racist!!!

"Did I shave my butt crack for this"

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11. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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That response was a poor troll.

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12. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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>Setting aside the issue of whether or not the ACA is a good
>idea or not.

Pull the other one, asshole.

So you are now complaining that not enough people are able to sign up for it quickly enough?

Didn't think so.

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16. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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LAST EDITED ON 10-Oct-13 AT 08:03 AM (PST)
 
All of the Blowflies are attracted to is the sweet smell of shit.

Liberals ,like flies, are unconcerned with the mess that remains,that is a problem for someone else to clean up

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17. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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"a poorly designed product, written by people that would not make it in the private sector"


You haven't addressed the fact that you blamed the Healthcare.gov website on public employees, when in fact the healthcare.gov website was designed and created by private contractors, such as CGI Group Inc. and other private contractors. Wait....you actually thought civil servants designed the website??!

Would you say that if your assumption on this topic was disastrously wrong, and false, that anything else you claim should be trusted to be accurate??

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21. "RE: What possible excuse does the ACA have for all the Glitches"
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>All of the Blowflies are attracted to is the sweet smell
>of shit.

>

So, you are comparing your own post to a pile of manure then.

Thanks.

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