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"Setting some basic expectations"
 
   Notes from the other side! LOL!

If you are going to see a provider there are some basic expectations that you should strive to fulfill.

1) Since you are here on RB, do your research before you call. Do not attempt to get the provider to discuss sex for money or any other illegal acts. If you truly do not feel that you have enough details after looking at someone's reviews about the activities they allow and pricing, look for someone else's reviews.

2) When you talk on the phone, you should be respectful of her privacy and not push to make her discuss things that she declines to answer or discuss. If you feel that you have not received satisfactory information, don't book with her.

3) If you are new to the hobby, try some of the better reviewed providers out there to get your feet wet. You can worry about ROB's less, you can trust them to provide quality service without needing guidance and you will learn how to go about the business of hiring a prostitute. Then if you feel the need, branch out into lesser-knowns once you gotten all the hayseed outof yer britches...

4) There are rip offs out there and honest providers are sympathetic, but if the reviews indicate they are reputable, trust them and act accordingly. When you treat a well-respected provider like she is untrustworthy, you will get poorer quality service if you get anything at all.

5) Respect the hoops you need to jump through the first time you see someone. They are there for her and your protection and if she asks too much for your comfort level, see someone else, don't argue. There are standards that women use, such as confirmation calls and emails before location information is given and calling from a local public phone before being given an actual street address. If you are concerned that someone is making you do too much, ask on the board. You'll be suprised what is common and considered reasonable. Don't do what you are not comfortable doing, don't show id or give out work information if you don't want to. But don't try to persuade women who require those things to bend the rules just for you.

6) Be prompt or call and let her know you are going to be late. If you are late, don't expect the full length of time and discuss your time and price expectations before you start a session late to avoid confusion and conflict after.

7) If you meet with someone and they have misrepresented themselves in some way, it's really ok to just leave. If you meet with someone who has not misrepresented themselves but it not of interest to you, be polite and offer a cancelation fee. (And just in case, $5 is an insult to a $300/hr provider.)

8) Be prepared to shower when you meet your provider. Wash everything with soap, even if you just did it an hour ago. This includes the crack of your ass. And don't go to the bathroom AFTER you shower. Do it before. Use mouthwash if it's available, bring mints just in case. Don't eat onions for lunch then expect kisses, even if her review says she kisses!

9) Be aware of what you are "buying". If you go to a massage provider, expect a backrub (even if it's lame). If she says she doesn't do FS, then she doesn't. Don't even go there. If she reviews as non-GFE, don't get upset if she is cool and oriented towards acts not chat. Don't push people to be what they are clearly advertising NOT to be.

10) Even if a review says someone got something bareback, unless she commits to it, assume it will be covered. Not saying the reviews are inaccurate (although some are) but rather that BB is a personal decision that includes how well she knows the client, chemistry and hygene. Always always always, YMMV.

11) Put the money in an acessable area (bedside table for instance) before she has to ask. Again, treat her like you know from her reviews that she is reputable.

12) Enjoy yourself and let go of most of your expectations. You can have a mind-blowing experience that never gets to intercourse and you can have a boring session that gives you every act in the porn film manual. If you are oriented around the acts you may very well miss the experience.

13) Don't try to negotiate special services from someone you just met or just hopped in bed with. Don't hint for something extra in the middle of the session if you don't want to talk money when you've got a hard on. And don't resent her for asking, she didn't resent you for asking...The best route is to ask for your special interests after you have seen her once and she can discuss it openly with you without fear and without it interrupting an enjoyable moment.

14) Say thanks. You wanted her to smile and say thanks when you gave her the money. She wants the same courtesies.

15) Be honest in your reviews and keep it in perspective. If she was disgusting and smelly and ugly then why did you go through with it? And don't ad lib to make yourself look like a romeo. Most guys are pretty simple in their tastes and don't have the stamina of a lion...you don't need to in your reviews either.

Peace

Amy

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Shree
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6. "I couldn't have said it better!"
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   BUT I would also ad that unless a Lady is advertising a special please don't insult her by asking for a discount on your first trip to her. You are trying to devalue her before you meet her and that is just wrong. If her price is not your style wait for an Offered special or meet her first at her usual donation.
Peace,
Shree

"Quality is a matter of preference, not of cash. To find that which fits Your desire, and not the desires of the masses"

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21-Mar-02, 06:20 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: I couldn't have said it better!"
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   Amy,

Good comments, by Shree, I'd have to politely disagree with your comment about not asking for a discount. I'd also have to disagree with your feeling that this is an insult or devaluing the provider, though I would like to hear what other providers thought.

When I first started, I'd never ask for discounts- basically, I'd only call women in my price range. Then, as I got sucked in to the hobby, on occasion, I'd set an appointment with a provider who charged a higher price. Unfortunately, those generally turned out to be less satisfying sessions, probably because my expectations were too high- in the back of my head, I was always thinking "I'm paying her X, but this isn't as good as provider Y gave me for $100 less...".

Finally, I started asking for discounts, and for me, that works. I'd call a provider, and if we connected, offer her what I thought I could afford- typically $200, sometimes $250. If she accepted, great, otherwise we go our separate ways- no insult intended... On a few occasions, I would even go through with the session, at the "rack" rate...

Now with Redbook and frugaljohn, I'm resorting to this less, because I can generally find a provider who is asking what I am willing to pay. But I still think that asking for a discount is a good thing for me and the provider- it lets her get a "marginal" client, while still extracting the "rack" rate from those willing to pay. And I've never had a provider offer, nor would I feel comfortable asking, for a discount below what I got in the first session, so your suggestion of meeting the first time at the rack rate does not work (for me at least- I guess its a YMMV thing).

What do the other providers on the board think?

Luke

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12-Jun-02, 11:36 PM (PST)
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16. "Discounts"
In response to message #8
 
   The going rate for a: *reputable*, independent, incall, FS, GFE is 200-350/hour.

If she doesn't have an excellent reputation and she's charging more than 300, chances are that she's a ROB (rip off bitch) or is a "hustler". Meaning she's assuming that most callers will talk her down, but is counting on a few naive ones to take the full-price bait.

Remember, the reviews are here for a reason! You have only yourself to blame if you hire an unknown woman and she cheats you. If somebody hasn't said it already - "Use your big head, not your little one!"


Asian Anna Kim

"I've done more harm by the falseness of trying to please than by the honesty of trying to hurt." --Jessamyn West

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Shree
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30-Dec-02, 09:49 AM (PST)
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23. "RE: I couldn't have said it better!"
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   Hmm should have seen this sooner.
Till you have been a provider You cannot imagine what "Insults" many of us. Many girls still consider it bad form to ask for a discount if she has not offered, even if they do discount when you call because of lack of clientel that day. The impression is still left that you devalued her before the meeting and that you may Always exspect the given discount(this is almost Always the case). This can make her cancel or move your apt and give it to a Full pay client who askes for your time slot or even Discount your time(to 30 or 45 mins) using her efforts to "Finish" or exuast you quicky but with class. 90% of the time there is no tip with a Discount client as they are stretching or Pinching pennies to see the provider anyway.
Peace,
Shree

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14-Jun-02, 00:35 AM (PST)
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18. "-One more...."
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   Amy,

This goes back to your days in E-town.

Addendum:
Please be inconspicuous and not raise any suspicions of neighbors or passers-by. Try and look like you are visiting a friend and know what you are doing. Rmember that we all have nosey neighbors and that if the gal has to move, it hurts us all.

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19. "RE: Setting some basic expectations"
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   Another thing that is insulting is asking for a discount with the promise of becoming a "regular", before service is provided and on the first meeting.

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20. "Hallelujah!"
In response to message #19
 
   It is insulting because the guy must think I was born yesterday to believe his bullshit.

Now, after the first or second date, I am much more likely to believe him, and it is flattering instead of demeaning. A client could say, "I'll see you for full price once in a while no matter what, but if the price was lowered a bit, I could see you more regularly. I'll let you approach me if you ever want to strike up a deal." This strategy puts the ball in her court, but no pressure on her.

Some women like to reward her regulars with discounts, and some don't. I have a "boyfriend" rate, which gives a discount as long as he promises two or more dates per month. He gets preferential scheduling and a couple extra phone calls each month, and I get a reliable source of income from someone I like and trust.



Asian Anna Kim

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21. "RE: Setting some basic expectations"
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Sorry to bring up a old thread. If you are talking to a provider for the first thing. Should you just get down to business or try to start some small talk? =o)

P.S. Happy holiday.

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22. "Getting down to business..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 19-Dec-02 AT 03:02 PM (PST)
 
Some people like to get to know a new person through energy and touch. Some people like to get to know a person by talking/listening. If you don't lean strongly towards one or the other.. I'd just follow her lead.

If you think you need conversation time before you feel comfortable getting down to business, you can let her know before the appt, or if she's already started in, she won't be offended if you gently stop her. Providers like it when clients are able to express their needs. As long as you're nice about it, she'll be more than happy to stop and talk for a while.

Conversely, if it seems like she's blabbing on and on... A tactful way of getting her to stop is to say, "I really dig the music. Let's be silent for a while so I can concentrate on the mood of the music." Or, "I talk all day at my job, and it would be great to have some silence now."

It's always better to express a preference than to "grin and bear" something.


Anna

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