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ken_says_fox
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"Its the Economy Stupid!"
 
   I tend to vacilate between hunting for MSOG providers on Red Book Classifieds, tracking down quickies on Craigs List and ocassionally driving the stroll on International.

My latest observation about the economy is that prices on CL briefly went up when the ad requirements changed, but now seem to have dropped back down. The main problem is that prices are not usually posted, so there is more negotiation than before although if anything, the numbers seem to have fallen slightly. Or to put it a different way, there seem to be more and better quality providers than before willing to provide service at any specific price point.

Also I have noticed that there are MANY more AAMPs advertising MSOG that a year ago: 29 at 160 and now eight at 140 and one at 120!!!

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1. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   craigslist sucks

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2. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   "Driving the Stroll on International" ? As in Oakland streetwalkers ?? Rock On, Brotha...

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3. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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Cracklist is a WASTE of TIME...

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4. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   $160 or less orgs are a waste of time unless you like MILFs or don't mind going through a lot of turkeys before finding a gem.

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7. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Jun-09 AT 10:03 PM (PST)
 
I may have agreed with your statement several years ago but my recent experience over the past 12-18 months is showing more and more good providers can be had at the $140-$160 level. And I mean younger as well, not necessarily top eye candy like the better looking K -girls but 7-8 range in looks. Service on par with some of the top tier K- girls and menus that are as good or even better.You are correct that one has to sometimes do some leg work and visit several before finding that gem but how many times does someone pay the $160-$200 rate for a supposedly top K-girl and leave the session unhappy.I tend to believe that maybe as a monger gets older and perhaps a little wiser he may not necessarily always choose the great looking girl with the hot body and may have just so so service, but maybe one that is attractive,has excellent service and the menu that the monger is looking for.Different strokes for different folks.On another note I rarely if ever have used or made a decision based upon an ad placed on Craigslist.For over ten years I never read a review on RB but instead relied on posts by trusted mongers and good recommendations for providers by fellow RB'ers.

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8. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Jun-09 AT 06:33 AM (PST)
 
My success rate (good session) for $200/hr is around 90%. The only reason it's not 100% is because I occasionally TOFTT and sometimes the RA doesn't meet my expectations. $200/hr RA's tend to stick around longer and get more attention so reviews/minis get posted quicker and contain more useful info. With $160/hr RA's, there is more frequent turnover. Takes awhile before someone submits a TOFTT report. And since the pics are fake most of the time, have to go by whatever description the poster gives. Usually, the description is not detailed enough for me. And most of the time, the actual RA is a MILF (a deal breaker for me). Once in a while, the poster says she is young, slim and pretty but that is the opinion of the poster. I'm a little more skeptical without a pic to look at. Now if several posters rave about the girl's looks then she may be a "gem" worth looking into. Only thing wrong is, by the time get enough minis/reviews saying how good she looks and the great service she provides, her stint is just about done and she is gone. So many $160/hr ads use fake pics and employ B&S that I automatically assume the actual RA is a MILF. I prefer young, pretty and slim RAs so if reviews/minis say she is older or not slim, I stop reading and move on to the next ad (doesn't matter to me how good her service is).

It takes too long to get enough decent minis/reviews about a $160/hr RA. And then she is gone before I finally decide to give her a try. I don't have the time or funds to TOFTT RAs with a low percentage of success so I don't bother with $160 or less orgs.

This one has been around awhile and some reviewers say her looks are OK but I am not convinced yet. I know her pics are fake.

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5. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
In response to message #3
 
You get what you pay for and when I go bargain hunting on Craigslist I usually have buyer remorse. The girls for the most part want to do the bare minimum to get you off and of course there is no GFE what so ever. They don't even pretend they are having a good time.

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Budbandit
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9. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   C'mon Cap, we've all heard that "You get what you pay for" line way too many times. There is no rule as to what the RA's have to charge. There is only loss of face if they are forced to lower their rates, and believe me brutha, most everyone here don't care if the girls have a loss of face. Just because I see the 160 girls more does not mean I am gonna have a less wonderful experience than I would with a 200 girl. In fact, I am terrible service with the 200 girls just as much as or more than the others. Oh, and you don't need to tell us about the CL girls, we already know. But that's hardly the perfect example of 160 girls to use to compare against your 200 girls is it?

If I didn't know any better, I'd have thought maybe you prefer to pay the current $200 girls their 200 instead of 160. You and I both know that their business is dropping fast. Less mongers in the area have the will or the money to shell out money like it was 1999 or something.

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11. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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Most K-girls are not worth 200 and occasionally when I do see them it only the top tier girls like Ayaka and Kara!

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14. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   Amen, bro. My experience with < $200 girls is they tend to try harder to earn a tip.

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6. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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I think that the Redbook concept of reviews attracts better quality providers. At least to me, CL and SW appear to have a higher skank factor.

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10. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   Most of us here don't even bother to think about the fat ugly whores in Oakland, nor the CL bitches with pimps hiding in their closets to pop out and rob you. And besides, that's just plain dirty man.

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12. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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If you are going to troll, walk around the financial district, I noticed a lot more girls walking around downtown lately doing the same thing. Trolling for housebands.

International? Unless you're trolling for rock there's better runs to be had.


"Shit flows downhill"

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13. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   No real comment but ..right on...
I thought I was one of the few that did AAMPs,CL, RB and Intl.

One thing OT that I can say is about 80% of the providers I session with do not utilize all the tools they could to get more customers.

And also I've noticed there are more and more $160 places with younger RAs. In fact one of my better $160 RA's gt poached to another org and now she's $200hr . Funny thing is her service has not changed one bit.
I still laugh every time i hear "you get what you pay for"

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15. "RE: Its the Economy Stupid!"
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   Maybe I would change my opinion of $160 or less orgs if people would post TOFTT reports in a more timely manner and give more detail and/or better description of what she really looks like.

I choose RAs primarily by looks and service second. It's not important to me if she offers MSOG or not. I like 'em slim, young and pretty (with natural boobs preferably). Otherwise, NEXT!

When I read a mini/TOFTT report, I look for the following:

1) Are the pics accurate (not fake)?
a) If they are fake, does she resemble her pics?
2) Estimated age
3) Are her boobs real or enhanced?
4) Is she slim, thick, curvy or fat?
5) Rating on looks: DDG, GND, COED, avg, MILF, FUgly
6) Attitude
7) Service (what's on her menu)

When someone posts a 411, get the usual Tineye reports and people saying how good the pics look comments. Then get some useless one line minis (for example, "saw Newmama today and had an awesome time. My new ATF"). Then by the time some decent minis get posted and I decide to check her out, her stint is almost up and her ad says "last 4 days" (which of course is on the days I have to work). So maybe if get more timely detailed minis, I may try some $160 orgs. But for now, I assume all $160 orgs feature MILFs unless it is reported otherwise.

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