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longtimeaamp
Member since 17-Jan-10
11 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 02:07 PM (PST)
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"Delete review for Lily"
 
   I have submitted a review for Lily. She was ok looking but the service was way under my expectation. I gave her a 6/7 for looks and 2 for the service. I seldom submit review even I have been reading this board for many years. I was surprised my reviews were deltete twice. Maybe the first review was not fair because I was attacking CQ which was my bad (But I went to see here because of CQ's review). But the second one was fair and sqaure just my thougts on Liy. Did this revieww deleting happene often? or Just happen to me?

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fishsandwich
Member since 30-Oct-09
62 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 02:14 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
In response to message #0
 
   Perhaps the manner in which you wrote the review was seen as intentionally trying to harm the reputation of the ra. As you said in your first review you were basically attacking captq. Maybe they saw your second review as more of the same.

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longtimeaamp
Member since 17-Jan-10
11 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 02:29 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   fishsandwich,

Thanks, I will not have any personal attack anymore (but I was mad because false review at least that was how I felt). Maybe I was mentioning my first review was deleted in my second one and the watch person didn't like the second one either. I think you are right because my review on Kara was not deleted. But Kara doesn't need my good review beacuse she has plently. I just want to warn the RB brothers what I experened with Lily. I don't think I will submit reviews for my bad expereince maybe just the good one.

Thanks again!

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fishsandwich
Member since 30-Oct-09
62 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 02:51 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   LAST EDITED ON 16-Mar-10 AT 02:52 PM (PST)
 
I think it's perfectly ok to post " bad" reviews as long as they accurately describe the experience. Bad reviews are just as important as good reviews. Both types just need to be honestly written to be of any use.

I don't think that the admins have any vendetta against people but want to try to maintain a sense of order or this place will plunge into chaos

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danextone
Member since 7-Sep-09
50 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 03:17 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   >I think it's perfectly ok to post " bad" reviews as long as
>they accurately describe the experience. Bad reviews are
>just as important as good reviews. Both types just need to
>be honestly written to be of any use.
>
>I don't think that the admins have any vendetta against
>people but want to try to maintain a sense of order or this
>place will plunge into chaos

fish,
What you said about the reviews are on the right track. There is usefulness in honest reviews. good and bad.

Even the best providers have low review scores in their resume as we all have different tastes, expectations and standards.

BTW, it is not just the admins that can have reviews deleted. The org's registered handle (maybe any registered handle?) can click the alert button and convince RB to delete a review.

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longtimeaamp
Member since 17-Jan-10
11 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 03:32 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   I never think I will submit a discusion at all on this board. So, thanks guys (because i saw some message without even reply which is sad). I do use this board to decide to see which RAs (Like Kara, Cindy, Mika, etc ...). I will say 70% of the time the reviews are accurate to me. Like danextone said different people has differnt expecation, standard and taste.

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Bebeworkhard52
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58 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 03:30 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   In your first review you gave Lily very low score in attitude and service, yet you failed to list one thing that Lily did wrong.
Your 2nd review you stated her service was bad, yet you still wanted a 2nd pop in which Lily said that require extra and you got pissed off and left. Lily does not have glowing reviews but they are accurate and truthful feedback from people that have seen her.

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longtimeaamp
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11 posts, Rate this user		 16-Mar-10, 04:46 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   I didn't get mad when she want extra for the second pop. She did offer me a HJ but I kindly refused. The service was bad and I stand correctly. Maybe you are the person who recommended to delete my review. That is ok. I just want to submit a review for how I felt. I might be too hard on her but you don't know what happened exactly that day.

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Komang click here to view user rating
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2465 posts, 62 feedbacks, 118 points		 16-Mar-10, 04:51 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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You refused a hand job? That's ridiculous. Get your nogen checked out...

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bone69 click here to view user rating
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1797 posts, 21 feedbacks, 41 points		 17-Mar-10, 04:49 AM (PST)
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15. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   LAST EDITED ON 17-Mar-10 AT 04:56 AM (PST)
 
Unless otherwise stated in the ad, most providers in SF Bay Area offer one pop only during session. If pop early, fill up rest of time with massage or talking, etc (you need to pace yourself so you don't pop too early). Sometimes if you pop early, the provider may let you do a second pop if there is time. In this case, she offered a second pop via HJ. Normally, a 2nd pop would require an extra donation or extend time with additional half hour or full hour (assuming no one waiting). She was extending you a courtesy. Instead, you deemed the service to be bad and gave her a poor rating. I think that is why someone alerted the review and it got deleted. The person who read the review and clicked on the alert link thought that the low rating was unwarranted based on your reasons for giving her a bad rating. How would you have rated her service up to the point when you wanted to get a second pop? The fact that she refused CFS 2nd pop without additional donation should not have negatively effected her rating.

Since the review was deleted, I didn't read the review. But my opinion is based on what was said in the previous posts and my understanding of why you thought the service was bad.

You should not comment on other people's review of a provider in your own review. Apparently, CQ had a good time and recommended her. That was his opinion. You don't have to agree with it. That is why you have to read several reviews to get a "picture" of a provider and decide if you want to give her a try. In your case you thought the service was bad because you were under the misguided impression that providers should automatically let you get a 2nd pop for free if you pop early.

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bone69 click here to view user rating
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1797 posts, 21 feedbacks, 41 points		 17-Mar-10, 07:29 AM (PST)
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16. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   Do you have a copy of your review of Lily (the description of the session)? It would be interesting to see what was in it instead of speculating based on comments made here and there in different posts.

If I misunderstood why you thought her service was bad and gave her such a low rating, please correct me. But 2 for service is a bit harsh IMO. A score that low (2 = "I'd rather forget") is one above "Nightmare" and two above "ROB". Was she really that bad? I've had some I couldn't get out of there soon enough but that was more me not being attracted to her.

Or maybe you can summarize what you said in the review. Even if someone "Alerts" a review or post, there is no guarantee the mods will take any action. The alerter writes why they clicked on the alert link and then it is up to the mods to take action or do nothing.

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studley click here to view user rating
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733 posts, 16 feedbacks, 28 points		 17-Mar-10, 10:48 AM (PST)
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17. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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bone69:

I agree with what you say 99.9% of the time. Unfortunately, some reviewers have come under extreme scrutiny based on strong suspicions of shilling. As a result, their reviews become immediately suspect and their conclusions are not easily accepted as normal YMMV, especially when they seem to be so wrong based on personal experience. Even a shiller - at least a smart one - will post favorable reviews of competing orgs. The drawback to having such a reputation will often unfairly taint those reviews. I can appreciate longtimeaamp's frustration.

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6610 posts, 55 feedbacks, 108 points		 17-Mar-10, 11:00 AM (PST)
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18. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   I have seen Lily and certainly don't think she deserves a 2 for service. I think her reviews are a bit inflated since she is getting 9s for service and attitude, and it was apparent to me that she doesn't like this job, but has to do it to make money for school. But Lily is a nice lady and her service is OK; she was RBGFE for me.

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PeterNorth69 click here to view user rating
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1631 posts, 20 feedbacks, 39 points		 17-Mar-10, 12:00 PM (PST)
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20. "Thanks for the Fair Assessment, Bop."
In response to message #18
 
Now with that said by TheTrustworthyBopper, i'd like to add.

If Lily wasn't shilled or had professional review writers boosting claims about her service and looks early on, she wouldn't have had to meet such high expectations over her tenure here. Basically, if there weren't fake review posters on her behalf, she probably would've fared better and we wouldn't have all this nonsense.

There goes to show, conflicts of interest by imposters and shills on here can really ruin it not just for the john b. monger, but also the jill b. provider.

Shame on the shills for trying to drum up business and get into our wallets, when all we're (the true whoremongers) trying to do is figure out which panties are the most worthwhile to get into.

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TooCool2000
Member since 2-Sep-09
12 posts, Rate this user		 17-Mar-10, 11:57 AM (PST)
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19. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   longtimeaamp,

I just discovered something strange about RB Search function.

Your review dated 03/10/10 on Lily is there along with the other four, if you look under Main Menu > San Jose 5079.

The same review is not listed if Search function is used.

So, the disappearance of your review may be just a technical issue. You might want to notify RB about that.

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bone69 click here to view user rating
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1797 posts, 21 feedbacks, 41 points		 18-Mar-10, 01:39 AM (PST)
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24. "RE: Delete review for Lily"
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   LAST EDITED ON 18-Mar-10 AT 01:55 AM (PST)
 
Never seen that before. Longtimeaamp's review doesn't show up when you do search in review page: http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=1383676 but you can see it if you go to "Classic Escort Review Site" -> South Bay -> San Jose 5079 -> Lily (as TooCool2000 said) and the review is there. So it did not get deleted. Some connection got broken and doesn't come up in the normal review page.

Classic Escort Review Site: http://sf.myredbook.com/review/

Here is the text of the review by Longtimeaamp, so you can judge for yourself. Based on what he said, is a 2 for attitude and service justified? It's his opinion, and he is entitled to it, but is a 2 warranted?

Review: I actually submitted a review eralier but got deleted. I just wanted to report the bad expereince I had. PO is ok and got there no problem. She was not 5'5 to 5'7 first. I showered alone which is fine. She gave me a short BBBJ then followed by a CBJ. Then we started MS. Everything finished in 15 minutes and she wanted another $160 if I want a second pop. I left and I will not repeat. She looks ok but just don't match what the other reviews said. Buyer be aware.

Service: 2 I should not go. Watse of my time and money. Servive is bad.

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My interpretation of what happened is ... he popped early (he is young or she did her job good), he wanted a second pop but she refused without additional donation. So he got mad and left. Maybe he left something out. Did she do the normal preliminary massage or FBSM? 15 minutes from end of shower to pop is pretty fast. Some providers will feel sorry for the guy and let him get a second pop, but that is her call.

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