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bg22
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17-Mar-10, 07:30 PM (PST)
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"East Bay blues..."
 
   I'm used to it. The East bay sucks for (A)AMP's. Oh well... boo-hoo.

I came to terms with it LONG AGO that I was going to have to drive to the SB to get the looks/service combo I (we all) so enjoy.

BUT IT'S SO FRUSTRATING...
There are beautiful asian girls ALL OVER THE PLACE in the east bay (Oakland, Berkeley, etc.).

I get so worked up sometimes I slip and hit one of the local MP's (for convenience sake). And while the experience is rarely "horrible" (I mean, a shitty BJ is still a BJ), I'm always left thinking about how much better my $ would have been spent is the SB. A recent (EB) experience left me particularly disturbed... I honestly think I was serviced by a "mentally challenged" RA. Not cool. (Maybe she just looked like that?). Faking an orgasm while inside a possibly (no offense) retarded sex-worker was really a low point for me in this "hobby" of mine. I had to drive to SB that same night for some eye-candy because I could tell I wasn't going to be able to fall asleep otherwise.


The brief running of KP Emeryville was GREAT for me (though still slightly below top tier SB standards).
RBGFE, good talent (excellent for EB), reliable(?)
then "poof"......... gone.

It was such a "tease".


I guess what I want to know is :
WHY does the East bay FAIL so hard at the (A)AMP game? Just... Why?

There are hookers walking down the streets here, many times with the police just passing them by. There are hookers in hotels here, I rarely hear of busts. So I doubt it's because they get shut down too quickly. Some of us "locals" are quite used to illegal activities occurring in our communities, and "behind closed doors" prostitution ranks amongst the least troublesome (IMO).

Is it just demographics?
More crime and poverty = More potential robberies and less potential customers?
That coupled with high living costs just makes the SB a better bet and anybody with their "shit together" opens up shop out there?

That's the best theory I can come up with myself, but I'm curious about what other theories are out there.


Please.... enlighten me.
It seems like an org with their "shit together" could really clean-up out here (due solely to the lack of competition).

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Spechter
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17-Mar-10, 08:44 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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LAST EDITED ON 17-Mar-10 AT 08:51 PM (PST)
 
The problem with the East Bay, in a nutshell, is the South Bay is still living off the hype of the defunct .com industry,(money) The East Bay has always had a lower class of criminal and we still do. Including prostitution. There's money here, we just need some talent.

I used to work in the East Bay and So San Francisco and did my prowling there, for the last year I have been working in Santa Clara and the difference is in talent is going to drive me to the poor house, now I session two to three times a week.

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3. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Wow!
This makes all the sense in the world.
The lower class of criminals in the east bay has lead to the demise of AAMPS in the east bay.
The South Bay has a higher class criminal which entices people to hobby more in that area.
Now I get it.
Stupid me!!
I just thought it was just because the south bay is a little more spread out and easy for org's to move around with not so much detection.

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bg22
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17-Mar-10, 09:22 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Yeah, I guess I could look at it like a blessing I don't have RBGFE "supermodels" in my own backyard. I live close enough to the poor-house as it is, and have addictive behavior.

The extra effort to drive to SB keeps my sessions at a *reasonable* frequency (like 3-4 times per month?) and in some way makes them more satisfying (more of a treat?). I only go when I REALLY want it, and those are usually the hottest sessions anyways (for me at least).

"YOU FRIENDLY!" "BIG SMILE!"
I hear that alot.

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18-Mar-10, 03:54 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 18-Mar-10 AT 04:03 PM (PST)
 
I think that the housing situation in the SB is better suited to AAMPs. The SB and the Pen are packed with the sort of apartment/condo complexes that AAMPs favor. I think it is the anonymity of having hundreds of units at one site, that makes things easy for AAMPS. There is plenty of foot traffic. It would be impossible to know all your neighbors, and so you wouldn't think twice about seeing faces you don't recognize. The actual girls in the apartment probably don't have to interact with the property managers. There is usually some sort of security (locked gates) onsite. The complexes lend themselves well to the 2 or 3 call system. The fact that there are sooo many of that type of apartment complex would mean it would be easier to relocate if the landlord kicked you out.

The east bay just doesn't have very many of those types of apartment complexes. You can imagine how it just wouldn't work as well in a 10 unit apartment building.

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after I posted this I saw redball's similar but better filled out reply before....

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5. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   I'll try to take the org's view of the world, in terms of "Location, location, location"...

• Client Stream
• Anonymity
• LE Proclivities and Priorities

Client Stream

The South Bay not only has a disproportionate male population owing to the high tech component of its economy, many of them are well compensated. They also tend to not be the "player/alpha male" class, making it even more difficult to find easy female companionship regardless of marital status.

Anonymity

Of all the places I've lived (including Berkeley, East coast, outside US) over the decades, the South Bay much more others, is anonymous. One of my first observations as a transplanted East Coaster, was the lack of neighborhood sensibilities (Sunnyvale, Mountain View, San Jose, Fremont, Milpitas). From cultural enclaves to humongous, sprawling complexes that many of us lose 20% of our special hours to because of navigational and easement challenges, we are unknowns and nobody asks what we're doing there, for the most part. As complete strangers, we're just as much a part of the landscape as the observer and are left unharassed.

LE Proclivities and Priorities

They seem mostly to not be up in arms unless something gets out of hand. Almost five years ago, I wrote about the efficacy of Black Thursday or lack thereof, arguing that the Feds succeeded solely as a dispersant of Korean businesses as opposed to trafficking interdictors (i.e. no trafficking here, move along), making it far more difficult (and costly) to prosecute in the future. Kevin Ryan, the Ninth District US Attorney (somewhat) in charge of Operation Gilded Cage, was given the opportunity to resign shortly thereafter owing largely to "blistering" negative evaluations; others (Brad Schlozman) met similar fates (sorry, I might have strayed). Todays operations, notwithstanding KP of late, don't seem to have the continuity and mass of the pre-BT AMPs and would therefore be much more difficult to get a reading on let alone a justification for action.


In the final analysis, the South Bay isn't the only place to do business but it might breed the most success. Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #22...

A wise man can hear profit in the wind.



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6. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   >A wise man can hear profit in the wind.
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>Rompe Palle

Or, it could just be a fart.

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8. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Lets pass your corollary on to the Ferengi Consulate...

A wise man can smell profit in the wind.



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metridium
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18-Mar-10, 09:44 AM (PST)
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7. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Thank you for the detailed response. I've had a similar quandry by the lack of aamp in the north penn area.

Anonymity in the area makes sense. I definitely get the I don't know you and I don't care to attitude in the sb. Especially in these apt complexes. As well as the point about the abundance of well off males with limited social skills who still have needs.

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11. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Mr. RedBall

Very good analysis. I would add to the faceless, transient anonymity department of the South Bay the abundance of half-filled sprawling complexes. Orgs by their nature like to scarf up the units behind the stairwells and out of the flow of traffic and that is difficult to do in fully rented complexes that have waiting lists. The persistent optimism of the Valley creates a continuum of apartment gluts interrupted for fleeting moments by shortages.

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10. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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The East Bay doesn't even have a strip club...what is up with that?


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bg22
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19-Mar-10, 06:45 PM (PST)
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12. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Thanks for the good feedback, people.

And YEAH, no strip clubs either!!!
Though... a strip club in Oakland would NOT be a pretty sight.

"Most dangerous parking-lot in America"?

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13. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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Also....the POPO!

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14. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   Do you read other posts or just hold your breath for a few minutes prior to typing?



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15. "RE: East Bay blues..."
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   The only real talent, and I mean legendary talent, was MyAsianGfe. Since they were robbed way back and left the area it's never been the same. So I'm guessing that's it.

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