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theredthread
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"Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
 
I've read some posts in the archives and the yelp reviews on this place and want to check it out. Not because I want to bring one of the girls out of the club, but it just sounds like a fun way to spend a few hours -- knocking back a few beers, chatting up a Chinese woman in broken English, taking in her perfume, etc. My questions for anyone who has frequented this place: What should I expect to pay for my own beer, her drinks, and if she hangs with me for a couple of hours am I expected to tip her when I leave or is buying her drinks enough? If I have three or four beers over the course of two or three hours and buy a girl a few drinks how much should I plan to spend?

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1. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Perfume? The women there are far from glamorous. Ladies drinks (wine)$12.

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2. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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I like cheap perfume and skeezy women when I'm drinking. It's a personal taste. Am I expected to tip if she keeps me company for a couple of hours?

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3. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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I have never been to this club!

Here is what I read from Yelp's review:

"Also, it seems some shady business goes on here. I've been told that L'Amour is a "hostess bar," where women work there chatting up men and getting them to buy them drinks. Ok fine, but this past weekend I took a group of friends there and we witnessed it go a little further. At one point one of my friends turned to me and said 'umm...look over there in the corner...?" and sure enough, one of the dudes I had seen at the bar a few minutes before with one of these ladies was getting a HAND JOB from her right out in the open, underneath a lamp in a corner, so everything was perfectly lit. This hj went on for over 20 minues and they didn't budge, even though we were all obviously gawking and cracking up."

I wonder if the review is real!

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4. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Don't you know everything you read on yelp is real and 100% accurate? I like this one:

"underground dank bar in chinatown.... it's fucking huge and dark and filled with dirty couches, cheap shitty beer and booze, hookers, cigarette smoke, and old asian men singing Celine Dion songs.... perfect!"

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5. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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   theredthread,

I've spent all too much time and money at this place.

Beer for you is $6. Girls want you to buy them "wine" (might just be grape juice) for $12. But if you push you can get away with buying a "single" (tea in a shot glass) for $6. Be clear that you are only buying singles before you say okay to the first drink. Re-iterate this with every drink. When the waitress brings drinks to your table she expects a tip of $1 for each drink she serves.

If you are a first timer, they will chug their drink and ask for another in a couple minutes. I put them on a schedule, tell them I will buy a single every half hour or twenty minutes, depending on how desperate they are. If there are lots of other customers, you might have to buy a drink every twenty minutes, if the place is empty, you can get away with every half hour. I like to go early in the week when they have less business.

Be firm, but respectful, these girls see themselves as down on their luck. Back in China they were nurses, bus drives and welders. They don't see themselves as hookers. Don't be crude or disrespectful.

There is no set rate at which you tip. I give the girl a $5 tip every time I buy her a drink. This keeps her interested. She knows you aren't going to stiff her. When you get up to leave, every girl you sat with will run to catch you before you get to the stairs, to "say good bye". They expect another tip at this time. I give them another $5 though $2 or $3 would probably work here. This is how I do it and they seem to be happy to sit with me. You could try doing two or three dollars a whack and see. Let me know if you are able to set a lower bar.

They will give you a phone number if they like you. I have seen some of them outside of the club, but only got it on with one. As far as I know there is no equivalent to a Pataya "bar fine".

They have lots of tricks for special circumstances, too much to go into here.

Check your inbox.

Good luck and let me know how it goes,
--Fei Lao

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6. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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This bears very little resemblance to my experience there. I have been there about 10 times, always btw 9pm-midnight. I have never seen more than about 10 customers there, and it's a huge place and empty and depressing. Mostly middle-aged rough looking Chinese guys drinking beer, who look like they are probably laborers, and maybe 3 girls. All pretty fugly, but maybe doable if you are really drunk.

You can buy the girls their diluted wine for $12. I don't understand all this stuff about extra tips and single drinks and schedules. It takes them about the same time to drink their wine as my liquor, so when I am done I buy them another too. No one has ever bought or tried to buy a ladies drink without asking. The liquor is overpriced, but they give me free drinks every few.

I have never seen anyone run to the stairs to say goodbye. The place is so huge, and there are so few people there, that they would be making a spectacle of themselves.

Maybe there was a time it was busier. Before the shooting, perhaps?

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7. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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   FL, great info. Thanks for sharing.

PI, what shooting?

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8. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Why don't you go there and see whose info is closer to reality? I'd be interested to know if perhaps there's a particular time of the day or week that FL's impressions are accurate. I suspect his info is very out of date.
There was a shooting there about maybe a year ago.

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9. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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According to the sf chronicle archives the shooting happened in February 2009. A 17 yr old from Oakland shot a 21 yr old from oakland as he was coming out of club l'amour. There was a police investigation to determine if the L'amour had allowed the 17 yr old into the club earlier without proper ID. I couldn't find anything about the outcome of the investigation or anything about how the business was effected. It is worth noting that almost all of the Yelp reviews were written before the shooting. I'm going to be checking it out in the near future regardless.

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12. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Let us know. I was never there before the shooting, but the people working there tell me that since then it's always empty the way I've seen it. I've never been on a Sat night, but I've been there on a Sunday several times and girls have told me they went home early the previous night as it was so dead.

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13. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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May take a week or two to get in there but I'll give a trip report when I do.

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14. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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LAST EDITED ON 13-Jul-10 AT 12:33 PM (PST)
 
Well, I was in the neighborhood and dropped in at 11:30 Monday night. It was just me and the bartender, a middle-aged woman. I paid $5 for a beer and sat at the bar. In a few minutes a Chinese man came in smoking a cigarette and had words with the bartender, then left. When my beer was almost drained a younger Chinese woman came in. She was a little on the heavy side, dressed down, but not entirely unattractive. The bartender gave her orders in a Chinese language. She got on her cell phone and dialed a few numbers that no one apparently answered (perhaps she was trying to call in a girl to keep me company?). She smiled at me once as she fumbled through a bag of DVDs behind the bar. I finished my beer and left. I'll try again on a weekend, but it does indeed look as if this place has seen its better days.

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15. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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What, no-one running to the stairs to catch you and say goodbye before you go?

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17. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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   Holy Hand Job!

PrurientInterest is correct, I haven't been there in awhile. Last time, probably a year ago, it seemed that the recession was having an effect: fewer customers, the girls were a little more tolerant of wayward hands etc. I had no idea they were in such dire straights. Thanks for the update. Now where can we get a fix of “cheap perfume and skeezy women”?

--Fei Lao

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20. "trip report"
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LAST EDITED ON 18-Jul-10 AT 03:27 PM (PST)
 
I went back last night, a saturday, and there were about 7 Chinese men hanging around the bar and three or four women mingling about. A guy at the bar introduced me to a milf type. She was pleasant enough so I bought her a drink and we sat down on a couch. She was a little on the thick side, had decent cleavage, and was dressed pretty casually. Her English was broken but not so limited that we couldn't carry on a conversation. We talked, I put my arm around her, it was very casual. I actually liked her. She wasn't glamorous but she was sweet in an unassuming way and I found her sufficiently attractive (if she buzzed me into an amp on a drunken night I'd do her). When I finished my beer she encouraged me to have another but I was ready to move on.

During the half hour or so that I sat there a couple sets of two young white men came in to scope the place out and promptly turned around and left. At one point another of the women approached and wanted to share the couch with us (no doubt fishing for a drink). I shooed her away politely because I didn't want to buy her a drink and I was enjoying the company of the woman I was with.

I paid $5 for a beer, $12 for the lady's drink, tipped the bartender $2, and tipped my lady $5 as I left. Overall it was a pleasing experience but I have no desire to return. I could see how this place might have been a blast at some point when there were big crowds, more women, and a generally licentious atmosphere. As it stands now, I wouldn't be surprised if they are out of business within a year.

Thanks and props to FeiLaoSF and prurientinterest for their advice and information. My curiosity has now been satisfied.

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10. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Been there back as far as in the days when they had glambling machines there & a major bust occurred (Remember the Jackson Street Boys). Older now & hopefully wiser, bars in basement levels are creepy in itself let alone w/ stentchy smells & too many living organisms on those couches. I prefer bars at ground level for simply a quick exit if necessary. Some newly taken over ones are popping up. I heard Drunken Saint (the avenues) is the new hang out, haven't been there since Steve (that psychedelic Porsche he had) ran it. Don't know any other in C-town. The hey days in C-town have faded.

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18. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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   Who is at Drunken Saint?

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11. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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At one time there was a door that led directly from one of the rooms at Thailand Massage into L'Amour. The RA's would go there to troll for customers when business was slow. That was 15-20 years ago, and I have no idea if the door has been boarded up since then.

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16. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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Drove by last night 1:20 am.

2 Opd cars out front and 2 officers talking to an asian couple out front.

Drove bye again at 2:00 am and still 1 Opd car out front.

Anybody know what happened?

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19. "RE: Club L'Amour Chinatown 411"
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OPD? It's in San Francisco my friend.

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