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"Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
 
   As a long time monger, too long I think, I've experienced a lot of different women, both pros and civilians, but I'm becoming a big fan of Chinese girls.

To me, the Vietnamese, who long dominated the SF AMP scene until the Koreans came in force in the mid to late 90s, are a nasty bunch. They are not all that great in service, ask for too much out of the gate and often ask for more in a "tip" on top of everything. A few are OK, but eventually they become jaded and downright unpleasant or psycho. Never have I heard so much complaining than from a Viet. If it isn't how long you are taking, it's their boss or co-worker or whatever.

When the Koreans hit the scene, initially it was a breath of fresh air. They looked and dressed better, talked sweeter, prices were reasonable and you weren't hounded for more, but most of all, their service was good. Yet, they drifted into being very robotic and their sweetness soon wore thin with me. I felt like I was just be processed - wham, bam, thank you, Man. I learned to hate hearing "Honey-a" or "time up" and seeing the fake frozen smiles.

Years ago, I figured the Chinese would soon come in, like the Koreans, but even in more mass due to the shear number of them coming from China. And they are. Eventually I drifted to the AMPs and AAMPs run by and stocked with Chinese girls. At first, I wasn't that impressed, for they didn't look or dress or act like the K girls, but then I realized how much more pleasant they were than either the Viets or Koreans. They never seemed to get mad, complain or demand much. And, boy, do they compete on prices. They are mostly very grateful and best of all, seemed very genuine. I find their honesty to be very refreshing.

Yeah, most C girls don't match up in looks or the toned body of a K girl and very few wear make up. But that's the beauty of them, they are like the girl next door, the woman you see at Ikea or the hostess at a restaurant that you want to bed. A few have been outright DDG and nearly all were as good, if not better, than most V or K girls in service. Best of all, their attitude has won me over.

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1. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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You are aware this is paid for, and "just business", right?

Just because we are paying gentlemen, doesn't mean their hearts and feelings pour for us.

That kind of reciprocity involves chemistry, which takes some time, usually longer than the 30 or 60 minutes in physical contact.

I've found these fantasies run all over the spectrum of reciprocity, from every single ethnicity. I can never pinpoint who is most into it. Usually though, it has little to do with me and more about the current state of feelings of the lady, who is the more dominant emotional player in this dichotomy.

What i also found true is they all can put on a business face in this line of work when they want or need to. It's just fantasy to us, and much needed money to them.

But some choose to enjoy their work more than others.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's just fantasy."

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2. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   Very nicely said

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3. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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Jamster,
Excellent post! Accurate and well written. IMHO, Chinese gals are the best value.

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4. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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*nods*

The K girls are all about photoshop and "wow" factor for the kids.


Thats fine..but..as realistic as a barbie doll.


Dont recall the last shilled K girl that didnt have clown boobs.


Fujiwara tofu rocks!

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5. "RE: Thai for me"
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   LAST EDITED ON 12-Jul-10 AT 11:05 PM (PST)
 
In all my mongering years I have had only two Thais among Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Japanese... However I batted 100% because both were absolutely great and were my ATFs until they finished their tours.

They were only decent in looks but more than make up for it in service and personality.

On a side note, I also have had exactly ONE Indian and I also batted 100% as she also was my ATFs (for two tours!)

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6. "RE: Thai for me"
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   I always find that the Japanese are more willing to serve than most other ones. Even half Japanese/Chinese seems to be really willing and eager to please.

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25. "RE: Thai for me"
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   What? "Half Japanese/Chinese"? There's no such thing (at an AMP/AAMP). They are just Chinese ladies that spent some time in Japan. Same thing for the "Japanese" Koreans.

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7. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Jul-10 AT 11:56 PM (PST)
 
You can't be serious, right?

This is merely a gross generalization of different Asian ethnic groups.

Not all Chinese gals are GNDs. If you ever dated or sessioned with Hong Kong or Taiwanese gals, many are very cosmopolitan and glamorous.

And with China's growth rates and burgeoning middle class and nouveau riche, you'll see a lot more non-GND types.

Corean gals are not all stuck-up, scripted, or robotic. Many that i've met are very GND and give even better service than some Viets, Chinese, and even Thais.

The fact is, there just isn't that much offering by way of Viets, and usually they're older, long time in the business jaded and hardened mamas, whereas the new economic opportunists are for the most part Chinese and Corean.

All of these women are good at putting on an act for the sake of making a nice hourly wage. Just look at the white girls and Americanized minorities in this industry and they all pretty much behave the same.

1. Very nice to you to get paid.

2. Very happy to send you on your way once services are rendered.

They all treat this as a "muchos gracias dollars" business. Some are more customer service-oriented and business-minded than others, that's all.

With that said, i've met the coolest and most glamorous Chinese gals and the most service-genuine Viet gals and Corean gals. And then again, i've also seen the reverse of those dynamics.

Can't really generalize, but fact is, they all just want to get it over with and get paid and not have a bad review written because it's all a pursuit of Benjamins. Who wants more puts out more and with a friendlier face.

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8. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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>You can't be serious, right?
>
>This is merely a gross generalization of different Asian
>ethnic groups.
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Perhaps, but not a gross generalization of different asian whores.

The "K-gal" simply lives up to the false expectations that over edited photos and over the top shilling has led them to wanna be..but better than the last one.


Fake tits, smooth over the skin tone, pinch the waist, stretch em 6" taller, pull out the ass, and paint in a "proper" G-string line.

Instant fake Kgal.

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17. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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I did something right in this thread..I woke up Q..

Calling all shills..calling all shills...


I didnt even have to call you out by name Q, wasnt TRYING to, you just stepped up and validated the theory in your little inbox rant..which, I didnt bother reading, was pleasant enough to see it there.


Thanks!


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9. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   It is thier cunning and manipulative nature that has got you impressed. It is hard to draw lines between the Asian ethinicity. Before all Koreans used to be fake in face and assets. Now Chinese girls are doing the same. In my recent trip to Shanghai, I was surprised to see mushrooming plastic surgeons changing the fuglies to KStars (Korean Actresses). The Chinese girls are good copy cats of Japanese and Korean chics. I feel they are not as frank as Koerans or Japanese. But no doubt they are very good at thier business.

Drift Away

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10. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   there are good and bad, ddg and fugly in every group, just who you run into that makes the experience.

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11. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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My ATF is korean and she's not fake at all.

Most of the chinese i've professionally been with have been Milfs who aren't GND, that's too kind, they are fobs with less sophistication.

I don't see any viets because there aren't any less then grandmas around.

Now, as for generalities and stereotypes, i find the more money i have to spend, the higher the quality of looks and service.

Money talks, and it speaks volumes winning the 30-60 minute and beyond attention (to detail) with any female of any race.

Stereotyping is just an ignorant reflection of one's own personal insecurities. To overcome it, befriend the stereotyped.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's just fantasy."

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21. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   <My ATF is korean and she is not fake at all>
Of course that is YOUR opinion.
<I did something right on this thread... I woke up Q..
calling all shills, calling all shills...>
Yeah, a monkey always a monkey, doesn't matter what suit is wearing on.

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22. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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59 posts, and we're still waiting for you to say something intelligent.

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12. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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I guess my experience with V-girls is a little different from yours. I had the pleasure of knowing some of the Viet superstars from Fuji Hot Baths back in the early Eighties, along with some pretty amazing ladies at Sophia Spa in the 90's. I didn't start running into jaded Viet providers until maybe 7-8 years ago.

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13. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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My vote for what's out there today goes to kgals.
You can't find passion currently anywhere else with the likes of A&A. Trust me, if you are a regular, there is no script or mechanical motion with these two.


Life is a box of expensive chocolates!

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15. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   I have no where close to the breadth of experience of many posting in this thread. But I agree with the sentiments that it's all relative.

At the moment, I agree with Xy. Particularly for A&A and especially the latter A in my case.

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18. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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>I guess my experience with V-girls is a little different
>from yours. I had the pleasure of knowing some of the Viet
>superstars from Fuji Hot Baths back in the early Eighties,
>along with some pretty amazing ladies at Sophia Spa in the
>90's. I didn't start running into jaded Viet providers
>until maybe 7-8 years ago.

My sentiments indeed after I saw Yvonne a few years ago.

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14. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   Chinese and Korean providers for the win!

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16. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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You hit it on the nail about Viet chicks and it doesn't just apply to amp hoes.

I like the C girls for pretty much the same reason as you, but I still prefer to bang the K girls for the looks and still find quite a few that are sweet and "act" just as genuine as the C girls... at lest to me the do.

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19. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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LAST EDITED ON 13-Jul-10 AT 09:50 AM (PST)
 
For me the V's are more sluttier if I'm in the mood for that. The K's have the look advantage & therefore lack slightly in service which can quickly seem robotic. Thai's are more service oriented & they lack that lean look in comparison but make up in built. Pretty much lay back & they do most of the work. The C's are more homie compare to the others b/c they don't do the clown makeup & play that innocent act. J's are rare but don't know if they're really better or just b/c of the rarity of them. And of course there the exceptions ...

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20. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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   LAST EDITED ON 13-Jul-10 AT 10:12 AM (PST)
 
I'm not surprised to see zero mention of them, because I know many don't even classify them as Asians, and they are not top of the line attractive, but for service, sexual or any other variety, the Filipinas smoke all of the rest combined. That's where your gonna see bang for your buck and then some, whether it's service for an hour or cooking & serving your meal after!

Filipinas rarely have the attractive Asian facial features that the others, particularly Koreans, do. But once in awhile you'll find one with a smoking face. If you like a little more meat on their bones, you'll definitely find a bigger selection in the world of Filipinas. And even as the rest of the worlds economy collapses & catches up to their disastrous level, the Phillipines economy also continues to free fall. Take a one week vacation to Angeles City in the Phillipines & live like a multi millionare for a week on $900....if no radical muslim extremists kidnap you or blow you up during your stay, you will be really glad you went!

Now that China's government has lightened the noose on what citizens are allowed to know & show interest in, the Chinese are catching right up to other cultures fads. Whatever materialistic or cosmetic traits you like or dislike in Japanese, Koreans etc. are now all the craze with the Chinese who suddenly have the freedom to indulge.

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23. "RE: Chinese vs. Viets vs. Koreans"
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I like J style T girls, do you know what I mean?

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24. "RE: Before-vs-Now-vs-Tomorrow"
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   For someone who has had the good fortune to hobbying in the southbay since the 70's and has had the pleasure to compare from europe to asia, I find generalizations somewhat misleading.

However, if I were to generalize about the evolution of my experience, I would say that there are enough smart ladies out here today that makes hobbying today as great as it's ever been.

Someone once said that beauty is beautiful because it fades away. I found that as beauty fades, some find wisdom in their experiences and adapt to changing times. But they all know how fast their beauty fades.

Age and beauty is a relative thing. Asians age well (sorry, another generalization) and men have blinders on to be able to see what they want to see. And we talk about it here and in their reviews.

A few take advantage of the tools @ their disposal (ie-google translator) and have a very good understanding how their business is and what guys are saying about them. Some spend time and money on physical enhancements, some change their style and techniques, and some pay attention to what their customers are asking for and are becoming more open to expanding their menu.

Today, I have found a few great looking gals who show me the kind of enthusiasm in doing the things I enjoy and make me feel like we're old friends and put me @ ease at the same time they excite me.

If I were to generalize one more time, I'd say that the line between the chinese, vietnemese, and koreans have become more blurred today than 18 months ago. The avg age of providers continues to rise and so are the attitudes and menu of some of the girls.


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