Hopefully they both still share same PO which was JR.

What's the big deal over a PO named JR? Are we banging him? Kind of sort of Gay.

What's the big deal with Yuna and Angie? Not that DDG compared to others out there if you ask me.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."

Have you not had the pleasure? One need only to take a peek at the service scores to get an idea of what the big deal is.

LOL Yeah, I personally wouldn't be coming on a forum with all this asian babes talk & profess my fondness for a dude who answers telephones. That does come off mighty homosexual.

You lost me though with the Angie's really no big deal statement. You obviously havent sampled. Bro, trust me, real deal right there. Worth a trip.

Wouldn't a big deal kind of hot girl be kept a secret?

After all, i haven't told anyone about my ATF and she just lowered her prices. If she has to lower her prices, and she's DDG, then no one is that busy.

I wonder sometimes..

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."

Providers adjust rates all the time to get the business level they want. What does a price reduction have to do with the recession? There will always be guys who are doing just fine and guys who are down on their luck. Guys will always find money to hobby. If it's too expensive for you, get another hobby or lower your standards and find a lower price provider.

And why keep info about a RA secret?

The purpose of the forums is to share info. If you know of an RA who uses fake pics/B&S and/or bad service, please tell everyone. Likewise, if you know about a great looking RA who gives good service, tell everyone. And don't be shy about posting as often as you want. Ignore the nimrods who may accuse you of shilling. As long as you are telling the truth/honest opinion, that is NOT shilling. You are being an enthusiastic supporter and a service to those of us who were previously unaware of or on the fence in regards to the RA in question.

PS. I seriously doubt any RAs are lowering prices because of the recession. Haven't seen much movement in price for the better RAs (looks/service). And there is always price movement among the lower tier providers (and escorts). Nothing new.

If anything, if a $200/hr provider lowered her price, people would think maybe she was previously overpriced due to not being attractive enough or service was lacking. So $200/hr providers have an incentive to maintain their rate to retain status.

The Recession has brought on an increased level of service and price competition. Anyone who hasn't seen this is in denial.

>And why keep info about a RA secret?

Because one might want to keep her for oneself and she prefers it that way? Duh.

1) The standard rate for top tier AAMP talent in SF Bay Area is $200.
2) The standard rate for top tier AAMP talent in LA is $250-$300.
3) There has always been movement in rates for those charging above and below the standard rate (more if below). Escorts that are over-charging (relative to their looks/service) may have to adjust their rates to get desire business level. Those charging below the standard rate often do so for a reason (getting older, looks fading, gaining weight, service lacking,etc). If they want business, they will have to price accordingly.
4) Have noticed more RAs offering BBBJ and coed showers. Is it because of the recession? I doubt it. I think it is because of competition among providers which has always been there. Providers offering better service are busier. Others notice and up their game to get their share of the business. Nothing new.

I have been on RB for over 3 years. Prices are the same as they were when I first discovered RB. The providers that have been here a long time are still charging the same rates. Providers come and go as always. Some periods there will be a "boat load" of top tier talent. Other times, the pickings will be kind of lean. Pickings may seem lean right now because we are too picky/critical (regardless of the money)? If you look only at the $200/hr orgs, has anything really changed in 3 years (besides trend of more girls offering BBBJ and coed showers)?

I bet the RAs don't know or even care that we are in a recession. If business is slow, they'll just go on vacation or go somewhere else.

If business is slow for your ATF, it may be in your self interest to talk about her so she'll get more business and stay around longer.

Of course there's been downward pressure on prices. When the MILFs started offering 2X or MSOG in their ads, that meant a price drop. Since there is a component of service and time in this business transaction, there is a price drop. You see, even if the time were constant, the service offering doubled. Just as if you were going to Burger King and getting 2 whopppers for the price of one. Definite price drop. And let's say the quality was upped, that meant you got a Sirloin burger for the same price as what you were offered before, a Ground Beef patty.

Now, when the half hour rate moved down from $140 to $120, that my friend, was a price drop. Price drops occur to drum up more activity, or "spur" on more business because business had declined from the "norm".

>1) The standard rate for top tier AAMP talent in SF Bay Area
>is $200.

Wrong, young hotties can be had at $120-160. Young. At aamps. You are paying the higher rate. But go ahead and keep paying it.

>2) The standard rate for top tier AAMP talent in LA is
>$250-$300.

Wrong again. Young hotties can be had at $120-160. Some places are $100 for regulars. At aamps. You are paying the higher rate. But go ahead and keep paying it.

>3) There has always been movement in rates for those
>charging above and below the standard rate (more if below).
>Escorts that are over-charging (relative to their
>looks/service) may have to adjust their rates to get desire
>business level. Those charging below the standard rate often
>do so for a reason (getting older, looks fading, gaining
>weight, service lacking,etc). If they want business, they
>will have to price accordingly.

But in general, the economic climate has shrunk the numbers of orgs, just look at the ad classifieds. As well, the ongoing dirty competition as well as shill games have forced those who haven't engaged in this tactic to move onto kinder environments where they don't have to learn how to play these games.

>4) Have noticed more RAs offering BBBJ and coed showers. Is
>it because of the recession? I doubt it. I think it is
>because of competition among providers which has always been
>there. Providers offering better service are busier. Others
>notice and up their game to get their share of the business.
>Nothing new.

I've noticed more RAs offering RBGFE, MSOG, and yes, co-ed showers. And yes, i didn't see this during the bubble years. We are in the deflating years of that bubble. So, you see the reverse.

>I have been on RB for over 3 years. Prices are the same as
>they were when I first discovered RB. The providers that
>have been here a long time are still charging the same
>rates. Providers come and go as always. Some periods there
>will be a "boat load" of top tier talent. Other times, the
>pickings will be kind of lean. Pickings may seem lean right
>now because we are too picky/critical (regardless of the
>money)? If you look only at the $200/hr orgs, has anything
>really changed in 3 years (besides trend of more girls
>offering BBBJ and coed showers)?

3 years is not a long time. Prices are not the same, again, there is an elevated level of service now, and double offerings by many. The price might be the same, but the value has doubled...in favor of the consumer. It's a buyer's market. The pricing of escorts has come down, and that puts downward pressure on everyone, everyone engaged in the market, etal., inclusive.

>I bet the RAs don't know or even care that we are in a
>recession. If business is slow, they'll just go on vacation
>or go somewhere else.

Only the top-notch ones don't care. They have enough PLs and lapdogs with trophy-mistress mindsets because that's the only way they know how.

>If business is slow for your ATF, it may be in your self
>interest to talk about her so she'll get more business and
>stay around longer.

Who's talking about an ATF? I don't have an ATF. I like the variety in this endeavour, and fact is, i see the market affecting what i'm getting. It's finally an almost level playing field. For once, the prettier girls (which i am into) have to provide a decent level of service. That means the 8's and 8.5's have to strive to earn my business, which is good, because this is a service-oriented business that we pay good money for.

I don't have the time (mostly time) or money to TOFTT every $160/$140 RA with halfway interesting looking pics. And I do not like to session with MILFs. I don't care how good her service is or how low the rate is. I suppose I could give it a try and then walk if I don't like her looks. And start early in the day so I can then go to plan B or C or D. But I could be wasting a lot of time and gas to maybe find an acceptable RA. Yeah, I know most will say "Why don't you check the reviews". The problem is, by the time a decent number of reviews/minis show up, she is gone. Or the reviewer's preference for looks/age/body type is different than mine so his rating of 7-9 for looks would be a 5-7 for me. It's especially difficult when all you have to go by is a description because the pics are fake and she doesn't resemble the pics.

So should I be adventurous and try to find the hidden gems among the $160 or lower orgs or stick with the more reliable $200 or $250/$300 orgs? Since time and money is more at a premium for me, I'll stick with standard price orgs. I usually find a few I like and then stick with them until they go back home to Korea.

So there are a bunch of orgs at $200 and then there are a whole bunch at $160/$140/$120/$100 per hour. You say there is some price movement at the $160 or less level that may or may not be related to the recession. And I could find some hotties that also give great service? Are you going to point them out to me and provide links to an ad and "real" pics? Probably not. I see their ads. The pics look nice but I know they are fake. Of course when look for any info, there is none. Or if there is some info, the guy says she is a 8.5 and RBGFE and not much else. Not really a whole lot of useful info. So wait for more reviews. Then she is gone by the time more reviews come in. So do I want to waste my time searching through the $160/lower orgs? Probably not.

So since I don't want to waste my time looking through $160/$140 orgs, I don't really care if some of them lower their price from $160 to $140 or $120. Doesn't matter or interest me.

Maybe instead of saying "Prices are lowering!" you should say "Lower tier orgs are lowering prices". That I would believe. Maybe you could run a survey/poll to determine the impetus for the price change 1) competition 2) not busy enough before 3) recession 4) other

Sorry for the long winded rambling.

Let's just say, prices in general are NOT lowering but there is some price movement among lower tier providers. I could agree with that statement.

The fact is, in summary, that the Recession has slowed just about every industry except bankruptcy attorneys and foreclosure facilitators and loan modifiers, who really are former real estate agents that got everyone into this mess fueled by those shady and greedy Wall Street bankers. But because of the new reuglatory measures, an attorney must oversee all modifications.

As for RAs, there are many that are at the lower $160 tier, it's just those you have to mine for yourself. I am sure many of those guys keep those finds amongst themselves to keep prices down.

No disagreement there.

Pricing for P4P affected by the recession? Maybe. Or could be normal adjustment to business/competition.

People do 2 things when money is tight. Assuming going to hobby anyway, 1) go for value. Go with $200 (worth extra $40) because less chance of B&S, better looking good service, etc or 2) go for bargains.

Since there are less that are at the top tier asking for $200/hr, if they are worth it, they will have plenty of business and have no incentive to lower prices (and haven't). If they aren't worth it (looks not up to par, service lacking), they are slow and move on or go to lower price org.

There is more competition for the lower priced orgs because there are so many of them. Takes them longer to build clientele because of fake pics or employ MILFs. Incentive to lower prices stronger to attract business. Then if she becomes popular, can raise prices (if around long enough). Maybe recession has something to do with it. Maybe not. I think it has some influence but is not the main reason. There are so many factors that could result in lack of business for a particular RA.

So lets just say "Prices may be lowering (for lower tier providers)".

hotel prices, airline, real estate, cars, everything has gone down.

business spending is down as well and escort pricing has come down too. don't know why aamp price has not come down but can not last long like this.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."

"don't know why aamp price has not come down but can not last long like this."

Which is it? First you say recession has brought price competition. Then you say AAMP price has not come down.

Competition among providers probably reason for service level increase. More LA providers are trying the market in Bay Area which causes "local" providers to up their game or fall behind.

Many escorts are overpriced and have to compete with AAMPs who are lower priced and don't screen. Probable reason for price reductions.

$200/hr providers. No price reductions.

Competition among $160/hr and lower causing some to lower prices to gain market share. Also, recession may cause some hobbyist to alter how they hobby. Either more cost conscience or go for quality. If price low enough, may cause some to lower expectations on looks. Also use lower prices to overcome resistance to negatives such as being overweight, older, etc. Also, lower priced providers often up their service to overcome negatives.

So, is the recession the primary reason for reduced pricing? Probably not. It plays a role. Hobbiers are more picky and price conscience. But if the provider is pretty enough and gives good service, guys will pay her price. The others then compete for the rest (market share) with the only other tool they have left, price. And mostly for the $160 or less providers.

Then you shouldn't bother posting here. Sharing intel is exactly the reason for the existence of this forum. If I had an ATF and she didn't want to be mentioned here I wouldn't even bring the subject up. I don't mention women here unless I intend to name them.

However, why don't you share your ATF info. She is slow lowering her rates but yet you do not help her and want to keep her to yourself...maybe she will vanish because of this.

I thought this board was to help each other out but it sounds like you are a one way street and as such I will remember to not share other hotties with you once your ATF has left.

I have given her contact number to some who've asked, but she only works part-time as she goes back to school on loans.

She's lowered her rate from $250 to $200, since many of us have seen her less frequently.

It i shared her here, there are going to be reviews written and some guys trying to be lapdogs. She doesn't want any of those, and even i can't be her lapdog. Get it know?

She doesn't want to see a lot of clients and even new ones. She wants to keep her old ones, which in order to do so in these tough economic times, she's had to lower rates. But she enjoys the part-time element of this as she is not a professional career provider.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."