We all know women can be moody and not desire intercourse as much as we do, and here many of these women can become very tired of having just too much. As with everyone, but especially women, they need a reason or be attracted to someone they are sharing their intimacy with. Other women are just in it for the money and could care less who they alienate because by nature this business is short-term.

My question is what recourse is the proper action when we are dealt a frustratingly substandard experience? Do we try and just pound her as long as we can to get our money's worth even though the chemistry is not there or do we just accept that we are being treated like an atm?

This isn't marriage where most of the time the men have to grin and bear it because of the obvious repercussions, and here the RA is not in a strong bargaining position with regard to being engaged in illegal activity so what can we do?

This is why i stick to my ATF for half my sessions and then research the reviews very carefully before spending $200, which is pricey on the high-end in these hard times.

What do you bros suggest one do when the session is worth less than $0 with an RA who clearly doesn't want to do her job and just wants the donation? Women can be unreasonable especially when her pride is involved and to let them get away with it sort of condones that type of behavior.

"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."

I don't think pounding away on an RA who is concurrently showing her disgust and contempt towards your being is considered by many as a method of 'getting your money's worth'.

My suggestion for a proper recourse would be to write an honest review and if you are a good client of the org, complain to the PO afterwards. If I don't know the org, I just walk and never go back.

Regarding Aampmaster's question, it's not always easy to put the brakes on -- especially when someone else is holding the stick shift. After the flip, instead of lying passively on my back, I want to be sitting upright, doing a little touching of my own and angling for a kiss. Her body language should give me plenty of clues about what lies ahead.

I've gotten unlucky with RAs' cold attitudes before, and RAs have gotten unlucky with my inability to pop. In both cases it was best to realize the situation early, and just sit back, relax, and zoom out a little bit. By chance, you might strike up a conversation or get in a good mood with the RA and set up for an excellent repeat the next time. And a friend of mine even received an offer of refund when things failed to go well, when he just decided to stop and watch a little TV with the girl instead.

Another thread talked about the amount of money we spend on this hobby. And truthfully, if you seriously look at how much you've spent? One bad session isn't worth getting upset about. I'd just relax and look forward to the next adventure.

If you're not willing to do that, I guess sticking to ATFs and your favorite org might allow you some recourse in getting a refund.

Argus

I believe that the reason I have been very successful in my hobbying is that I try to establish some sort of connection with the provider. I realize it is an exchange of money for pussy but I try to make it somewhat personable. One time in paticular I began a session and it was quite cold. I inquired if there was something wrong and she told me she was simply worn out and not feeling well. She gave me my money back and appologized. I left her 60 for the house and cut my losses. I did return at a later date and had an amazing session.

I guess I am saying we all have off days. I am grateful these girls are here providing their service at what I feel is a rather reasonable fee.

Thanks for sharing your experience and letting us have a topic we can actually have some intelligent conversation about.

Fish

It happened to me a few times. The next session was always with the ATF, which tended to even things out. Overall, I feel like I am ahead despite the couple of $$ wasted.

This is why you should post reviews good or bad to give a more
true picture. Sometimes RA has lot of shills or ATFs padding her
reviews.

>My question is what recourse is the proper action when we
>are dealt a frustratingly substandard experience? Do we try

When I get a dead lay I do her doggy style so I don't have
to look at her face (especially if she has look of disgust on
her face) and I try not to think about her much at all but
concentrate on myself and getting myself off. I don't pound
her because I don't get off on hurting women. But I'm also
not thinking about if it feels good to her because I know it
probably doesn't. After you having fucked 10s or 100s of guys
she is probably desensitized to fucking.

Sometimes you guys are give these whores way too much power
over you. On the other hand, sometimes you are really asking
these girls for a lot for $200. Jeez.

They are whores no matter how you slice it. You can try
to romanticize it by calling them RAs, providers, courtesans,
mistresses, and so on. But the bottom line is they are being
paid to fuck. It's not McDonalds, so don't always expect
service with a smile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efRGjRMwagA

Never think that just because you just started the session or are in the middle of the session that you can't walk and recoup more than half if not all of your money. You are the customer and you are paying for service period. Now granted some girls have rules like no DFK or they just don't do the BBBJ deal and that's fine. But in this business certain things are to be expected like the ability to touch the tatas. I can tell you that if I was in the middle of a session and the girl laid down some ridiculous rules or coped a serious attitude I would get up immediately and get dressed. After I was dressed I would demand my money back. Now if she did provide some intimate play I would comp her for partial play, let's say $40.

Good luck and remember you are the customer even in this Bizz.

1. Bang the bitch until she passes out. A bitch has nothing to take pride of.
2. Write a detail review in good faith and also post a thread on this forum for immediate heads up.

I hope this is the end of this topic.

Drift Away