For the record, I haven't been there in a few years and haven't seen Tina in about 8 months, so you may be overestimating my insider ability and misinterpreting my motives.

You'll be a bit more rational and thoughtful about what you write and it will be more objective - which in turn can convey the information to the boards w/o the collateral damage as aampfan mentioned.

Or, post it in VIP at least. That's what I ended up doing on a visit somewhere and it was met w/ more... cordial? responses and thoughts.

The point of my OP was that it as changed, even in the last year or so, at least IMO and others seem to agree. Others have commented on Michelle's change as well, so my comments on recent and other past threads are not just one person ranting.

As for Tina, her service is pretty much the same and I'm not knocking it, but the heart of the matter is the attitude that has developed at Nikki's as a whole and with most of the girls in general.

Let's see what happens with Tina and her supposed name and rate change. It may or may not happen, but my source has been straight with me in the past and she seems pretty sure of it. But just hearing that it might happen was the final straw. I really don't get much out of my sessions at Nikki's with ANY girl for some time now, so I'm finished with them. As I stated, there are a LOT of options out there and I'm enjoying them.

instead of turning it up a notch and making more of themselves in times of crisis(BT), they all decided to head down a different road and path for themselves.... well, they've literally made their beds and have been sleeping on it, so to speak...

michelle's attitude has turned south on me since 2004 i attribute that to the fact that i remained "loyal" to tina all these years and she definitely holds a grudge...i know that for a fact when i used to session with her when tina was in VN on vacation...so, she is what she is...

so here's my take:
as someone else pointed out, their time around to work and be beneficial and productive is now very limited...how long? i dont know?
and so, the point in asking for more is to make up for the volume that they don't plan on doing anymore....simple math, i guess...

and as far as tina's concerned, that lady can do whatever she wants...i spoke to her briefly about this and she went on a tangent about not wanting to work anymore...and so this business plan makes kind of sense for her and i'm not going to beat her up for it....she knows the repercussion and what not...she's a big girl and she's gonna have to live with the decisions she makes for herself...i havent been a steady john for her these last few years and i can attest that she also holds some kind of grudge on me, for f'ing with the beautiful k-girls(as she calls them)..and she hates the fact the she knows that me and the rest of us pay these young k-girls $200 a session and can see why she is jealous of this whole situation... it's all about the human emotions and good-GOD, these women are very emotional about these things!

>>> "In one thread, a bad session with one RA"
>
>Actually, I would say that it is pent up frustration from
>several experiences. This was just the straw, that broke the
>camels back. The guy has a lot experiences in these places,
>and wouldn't just pop off, because of one bad session. I
>agree with his rant. That place has done a complete 180
>degree turn, without any stated reason. The place is turning
>into a den of ROB's. I challenge you to tell it like it
>really is, instead of trying to over protect them. With your
>insider ability, you will be doing us all a good deed, and
>asking them why they have changed so much.
>
>--Rat

Thanks for expanding my vocabulary, 10inch. I'm reminded of an old Wonder years episode where Wayne urges Kevin not to be obsequious or phlegmatic.

> The need for discretion is warranted but are you saying that the
> prodigious and eclectic bad experiences should be reserved for the
> reviews? Isn't lambasting negative experiences at a store front AMP
> tendentious? With all due respect, there are a plethora of AAMP
> providers who have been excoriated by OPs after negative experiences
> on this forum and those comments have been invaluable in selecting
> who I visit. Was it wrong to post the negative reviews?

I find negative comments as informative as you do, provided that they stay on point. In this case, what should have been a criticism about one provider or one AMP's pricing policy turned into a harangue about anything and everything. Vietnamese providers were universally characterized as ROBs, mature providers as hags, one now-defunct AMP was labeled a den of thieves, and one high-profile RA was lambasted not for anything she did or said but because another RA thinks she'll charge more in the future. At a certain point, it becomes less informational and more like listening to an octogenarian blame all the problems of the world on the federal government, the post office, the banks or the evil ethnic group du jour.

By the way, I have the greatest respect for jamster. I consider him to be extremely knowledgeable and a great source of info and hobbying wisdom. Second-guessing a post that he authored does not come easy. If I hold him to a high standard, it's because I have an equally high opinion of him, hobby-wise.

> The AAMPs highlight their quotidian rates for each RA. On the other
> hand rates at some store front AMPS are often tenebrous. While
> elaborating details of their service is wrong, posting their rates
> should not be.

While the VIP AAMP forum is more liberal, the general guideline here is to avoid linking storefront RA names, rates and sexual acts together in a post or thread. I may buy your point that it's less damaging to post "Jane at Shoreline provided unspecified services for $199.95" than to say "Jane at Shoreline gave me a Philadelphia Flying F*ck and a Venus Butterfly for the usual amount," but the limited informational value doesn't really justify the breach of confidentiality. The rate info in the review section is much more substantial due to the sheer volume of reviews, and it can even help you identify YRMV (your rate may vary) providers. More to the point, a rate quote on the board is no real substitute for applying casino logic to an AMP visit -- bring only what you're planning to spend and leave the plastic at home.

The flaw in that logic is that a woman who provides such great service that everyone wants to talk about her would need to deal with the same fear of LE radar. Should we then counsel her to provide mediocre service or quit the business?

> director of S.F. massage parlor union

What a great idea for a job! I'd even be willing to work for minimum wage, plus all the RAs I can eat.

that's exactly my point. good or bad business practice, people will talk about it. and if that's going to put her in fear of LE radar, then maybe she should quit.