I've been lurking for the past weekend on RB and read a lot of great advice and etiquette about AAMPs. Being a noob, I'm a bit hesitant to take the plunge, yet.

I'm wondering about starting with AMP/MP first. With AAMP, the price is set prior to the visit which makes things a bit more clear cut and simple. Make a call, price is set, make the visit, and you get FS. I get it. It doesn't seem as clear cut with AMP/MPs, though.

Can someone tell me how it usually works at AMP/MP? How are the donations compared to AAMPs? Or direct me to a thread that discusses this? You can also inbox, if preferred.

Thank you in advance for humoring a noob!

Remember, your hardearned dollars is for your entertainment and enjoyment. Treat the ladies like you would any woman you find yourself attracted to and get intimate with. Be respectful, humane, and nice, basically a gentleman.

But don't fall for these shady types that only want one thing.

Your money. They view you as a trick that they might stand to benefit from, so try and cut them out and enjoy your experience between you and the girl, and don't get played by her handlers, who don't give a rat's ass about you.

It's slow out there, so your money is worth a lot so get the best experience for all your hard work. Remember, it's a BUYER's MARKET.

The customer (with CASH) is king now.

From what I've read, MPs haven't changed that much except we now have RB to discuss AMP/TAMP/MPs and maybe find reviews. Pick a place. May have a lineup. Occasionally find a young hottie. But often only find older massage providers. 30+ yr olds and even 40+ yr olds. Not all places offer HE. Some are legit activities only (no extras although some may look the other way if you want to DIY). Usually you pay a house/massage fee for the massage which is based on how long you want to stay. You can still leave a tip for the masseuse since the "house" takes a sizeable chunk of the base fee. They depend on tips for their income. Then if extras are offered, there is an additional tip based on the service negotiated. How you go about finding out if extras are offered and how you negotiate price is a little fuzzy for me since I haven't visited a MP in so long. I've read some do some sort of hand signal and may not even negotiate price. Then leave tip afterwards. I'm sure the RA will let you know if the tip is inadequate. But assume FS is a lot more than $20-$40. Figure on $20-$40 for a HJ. Add $20 more if she is nude. $60-$80 for BBBJ/CBJ. $100-$120 for CFS. Tip is on top of the base fee for the massage. See other threads on how services are priced. Rates may be higher.

By the time you add up base fee plus tip for extras, total cost may exceed cost of visiting an AAMP. And you don't know what will be available before walking through the door since if they do post an ad on RB, they often don't have pics or pics are of some model who doesn't work there.

When posting about a specific massage place, don't forget to be discrete. You can talk about how the girls look but do not discuss extras. Use PM for that. Want to maintain the illusion that the place is strictly legit. Don't want to give LE easy intell.

A TAMP is a storefront where you will get (hopefully) a cmt quality massage and often be offered a HJ. An AMP is a storefront where you will get (usually) a short half-assed massage and be offered full-service. Apparently you already know through your research here what happens at an AAMP.

If you are nervous about this whole adventure it can be fun to start with a TAMP. It's easy and simple. Just pick a place, walk in and ask for a massage. The mamasan and/or your masseuse will take it form there. I would not suggest grabbing anyone's ass or being aggressive in any way. Just relax and enjoy your massage (do get fully nude before getting on the table). The RA will ask you questions to try and figure out if you are LE. Be honest. When she asks if you've been there before tell her no. When she asks what you do for a living, tell her the truth. She may not speak much English, but she has developed a sense of when you are lieing. She is asking basic questions to see if she can trust you. If you seem evasive she may err on the side of caution and you won't be offered extras. She will most likely do some degree of teasing while you are on your stomach. This usually involves massaging your ass, your inner thighs, and making some degree of inadvertent contact with your balls and/or ass crack. If you seem to enjoy this she will be encouraged. On the flip (you on your back) she may rub your stomach and/or inner thighs to keep or get you aroused. If she sees that you are hard she will take it from there.

(A special note: if she asks you how you heard of the place, tell her your friend told you about it. This will suggest to her that you have an idea what to expect from this experience. Do not mention RB! If she happens to bring it up, play dumb. "No I've never heard of that. What's it called again?" This is the only time you should lie.)

Some RAs will go straight to the HJ without negotiating a tip. Others will negotiate first, usually by holding up fingers or whispering. At many places the trend is to ask for $60, but you shouldn't pay more than $40 for a basic HJ. If she negotiates too aggressively and takes the fun out of it for you don't be afraid to just pass. Tell her thanks but you'll just take the massage today. She'll most likely relent. If you are lucky enough to get serviced without having to negotiate, tip $40 with a thank you and a smile on your face. Tell her you'll be back.

I would not suggest trying to cop a feel or asking her to take off her shirt or anything like that. That becomes a more tricky negotiation and you're not ready for that on your first visit. Just relax and let her take control. You'll have a much better experience that way.

As for AMPS, I wouldn't recommend them. They used to be fun when you could pay $50 to $60 at the door, get a lineup of girls, put $100 on the table before getting undressed and get everything you came for. Now the lineup is rare, the quality of girls has gone down, and the RAs have become mercenary in their negotiation tactics. You'll end up paying too much and if you are able to negotiate a decent price it won't be worth the effort. Once you have a few TAMP sessions under your belt I'd go straight to the AAMP venue (if you want to).

One thing to keep in mind. Paying for sex is kind of a drag. No matter how much some guys want to believe otherwise, the girls just want you to get off and go. Some provide better service than others, and if you become a regular with one girl the service should get better and better. But still, it's not like having sex with a girlfriend. It's frankly kind of an empty experience. Even the best experiences I've had at an AMP or AAMP (and I've had a few really good ones) have left me feeling kind of stupid.

About seven years ago I became fascinated by the world of asian massage parlors, started with TAMPs, moved on to AMPs, and ventured minimally into AAMPs. I realized very quickly that sex is not very interesting unless you're with a woman who genuinely wants and desires you. Some RAs are skilled at making you feel wanted, but if you have any degree of sensitivity and self-honesty it will be apparent that it is little more than a business exchange for her. She is willing to give you her body for cash. It's a compromise that she's willing to make. She can't wait for it to be over.

After losing my fascination with the whole venture I still dropped into AMPs once in a while after a night of being out at a club or a party, having a few drinks and feeling horny. AMPs are nice in that way. They are always there and some are open late for those times when you just want to fuck someone. But I don't do that anymore even because of the aforementioned mercenary upselling and negotiating involved. So I've come full circle back to the world of TAMPs. If I can get a good CMT massage with a tender loving HJ without having to haggle over the price, I'm happy. And that can definitely be found.

That's my advice and a little of my experience. Good luck on your adventures and if you want specific information feel free to inbox me.

please don't start man. seriously. this is a bad addiction. some of us are too blind to see it and have rationalized it but take it from a veteran who wishes he never started. it can and will ruin you.