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"Those of you are in love Thread #2"
 
LAST EDITED ON 04-Aug-10 AT 08:36 AM (PST) by (moderator)
 
Thread #1 http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID19/44314.html

I was moved by drifter09's initial thread. The compassion, the generosity, the trust he gave, the selfishness in wanting a virgin and making sure his purported love was indeed one, and flying all the way to China to see why the one he spent over $150K was dropping him like a bad habit.

Fact is, it took courage as well as the compassion and generosity that ultimately allowed him to share his story here.

I just wanted to say there are better women out there for you drifter09, and hang that head up high pawdner, as she lacked the conscience and integrity to cut it off sooner.

I ask all of you this: Is this the first time a male has been burned? I've heard countless stories of guys losing half their nest egg in this country to women who take them for a ride and then drop them off at the divorce bus stop. Women change their minds, some can be in relationships simply for the money, and some just have no integrity whatsoever. Some can be greedy, materialistic, egotistical, emotional, snobs who think their greatest accomplishment is playing men.

I once had this American born chinese gal go out with me and all she was talking about was material stuff and comparing herself to others in the rat race. She insisted we go to this fancy, high-priced restaurant in SF for our first date. After we ordered, i made an excuse to go to the restroom and went back to my car and bolted. This chic was raised by her parents to milk guys like me. Met her online and left it at that after i bailed on her. I can smell a golddigger a mile away. I always had that innate and uncanny ability to detect a morally and ethically bankrupt female.

Anyways, to a brother who tried to give his female soulmate all he could, and lost. Here's to you dude, hope you came out of that stronger and thanks for the brave warning you gave all the readers here.

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1. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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As a person that works in the area of finance, I also urge anyone to reconsider co-signing anything, either it's a car, rental property, etc., you'll be stuck with the payments if your ATF deceides to bail.

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2. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   >I was moved by drifter09's initial thread. The compassion,
>the generosity, the trust he gave, the selfishness in
>wanting a virgin and making sure his purported love was
>indeed one.


Why are you "moved" by his being selfish and wanting a virgin and wanting to document her genitals were consistent with a virgin ?

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3. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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I was being somewhat sarcastic and trying to offer some humor to all the madness he went through and to comically show him how silly he was as well.

I think you were being sarcastic in your response to me as well.

But if you aren't, don't take everything i write seriously.

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20. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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>don't take everything i write seriously.

I'm good with that and agree..........."anything".

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4. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   Well, unfortunately I speak from experience.

Drifter, it is tough to go through. I can truly sympathize with your situation and know how you feel. Albeit your situation went much further than mine and apparently more costly. As noted in previous posts, this is the first step in the healing process. It will take time. I am still dealing with it to an extent. As time goes by, it does get easier to deal with. When guys tell you to "get back in the hobby to find an RA to help you forget", it doesn't work. Each person needs to heal in their own way. Maybe it will work for you, maybe it won't.

Keep your head up brother. Inbox me if you need to talk to someone that speaks from experience and won't flame you for falling in love with an RA.

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5. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Aug-10 AT 08:43 AM (PST)
 
The advice i can give to both of you is stop trying to stalk the women you are attracted to or anyone else for that matter. It doesn't help your cause.

The best thing you can do is be the opposite of a control freak. It turns women off (being controlling) and actually scares most all of them.

The best thing to do if you're head over heels for a female is to PLAY IT COOL. And who gives a shit if she's a virgin or not.

Who wants an inexperienced virgin anyways? Jeez.

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6. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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I do favors for my ATF'S. they don't have transportation and i'll pick them up to take them shopping for food or other things, I never pay their bill and they don't expect me to. If I got a hint that they expected me to pay a food bill or anything else the trust would go out the door and I wouldn't help them again. I don't get any special extras and don't ask. I do it because I genuinely like the person. I'm to old to be taken advantage of and wont take advantage of them.
The reality is they will fuck anybody for money, how can you really think you are going to develope a serious relationship with someone that will do that. Don't be a Mark.

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7. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   It is a sad story; however, it is only his story. I'd be curious to hear her's. I say that because it is a documented fact that there always are at least two sides to every story.

SOMF

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18. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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It's my perception that a lot of RAs would almost never fuck without getting paid. When they're out and about on their own time they aren't the ones that get laid on one night stands like the civies I used to pick up routinely at bars.

I'm not saying RAs are better but in many ways they're not worse than the civie women who will casually jump in the sack with the guy they just met that night (for free).

I've never been in a "serious" relationship with an RA but I'm guessing that if she went out with the girls for a weekend getaway I wouldn't worry about her getting picked up and banged.

Now if she said she wanted to visit her girlfriend in LA, Houston, NYC, Seattle for a month I'd be very worried and/or expect that she'd be coming home with an extra 10 grand.

Two roads diverged and I chose the road down south

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9. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   PeterNorth69 I for one appreciate your kind thoughts of wisdom as well as the positive spin you put on this Brothers tragic experience.


>Thread #1
>http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID19/44314.html
>
>
>
>I was moved by drifter09's initial thread. The compassion,
>the generosity, the trust he gave, the selfishness in
>wanting a virgin and making sure his purported love was
>indeed one, and flying all the way to China to see why the
>one he spent over $150K was dropping him like a bad habit.
>
>Fact is, it took courage as well as the compassion and
>generosity that ultimately allowed him to share his story
>here.
>
>I just wanted to say there are better women out there for
>you drifter09, and hang that head up high pawdner, as she
>lacked the conscience and integrity to cut it off sooner.
>
>I ask all of you this: Is this the first time a male has
>been burned? I've heard countless stories of guys losing
>half their nest egg in this country to women who take them
>for a ride and then drop them off at the divorce bus stop.
>Women change their minds, some can be in relationships
>simply for the money, and some just have no integrity
>whatsoever. Some can be greedy, materialistic, egotistical,
>emotional, snobs who think their greatest accomplishment is
>playing men.
>
>I once had this American born chinese gal go out with me and
>all she was talking about was material stuff and comparing
>herself to others in the rat race. She insisted we go to
>this fancy, high-priced restaurant in SF for our first date.
>After we ordered, i made an excuse to go to the restroom and
>went back to my car and bolted. This chic was raised by her
>parents to milk guys like me. Met her online and left it at
>that after i bailed on her. I can smell a golddigger a mile
>away. I always had that innate and uncanny ability to detect
>a morally and ethically bankrupt female.
>
>Anyways, to a brother who tried to give his female soulmate
>all he could, and lost. Here's to you dude, hope you came
>out of that stronger and thanks for the brave warning you
>gave all the readers here.

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10. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   One thing to make sure if the relationship is real is to have a baby. If she wants to start a family with you then it is real. It is a lot easier to cut ties when there are no children involved.

You could point this out to INS. Making more problems may have more problems bouncing back. At least you did not have to pay child support for 18 years. That would cost another 180k.

"Mail Order Wife" is a good movie/documentary that is similar. Once you are over this episode watch it and have a good laugh. Not only Asian women are scamming.

http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Mail_Order_Wife/70027123?strackid=2282a96f18c28f9_2_srl&strkid=463739812_2_0&trkid=438381

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19. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Aug-10 AT 07:57 PM (PST) by (moderator)
 
That is total BULLSHIT. I know a dude personally who fell in love via the internet with a chinese national (not an RA). They got married and had a kid. When the kid was a year old she kidnapped the kid and fled to China. He had no way to get his son back. She straight up ransomed the kid for $500k (he's filthy rich). He paid up because he loved his son and didn't want to lose him. He (and she) also knew he'd waste a lot of money and years of his life trying to get his kid back through the legal system and probably have little to no chance of getting him back.

He also paid a private detective and found out that a) this was at least the 2nd time she'd pulled this scam and b) while they were married she was already working on her next mark via the internet getting the next naive guy to fall in love with her.

Women have an amazing power over men. Some choose to exploit it - some are just naive about their power and never use it.

Having a child or children is never a good idea if the relationship is shaky or suspect.

Two roads diverged and I chose the road down south

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11. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   If any of you guys believe this sap of a story, I have a bridge to sell you. Johns aren't searching for brides, and if they are, they should not be looking for them in AMPs. This story is more far fetched than anything ever printed in the Enquirer.

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12. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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13. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Aug-10 AT 05:08 PM (PST)
 
PN and All Fellow Bros,

Thanks for standing by me. I wanted to make sure you did not get me wrong on the virginity issue. I never wanted her to have a brand new pussy. She insisted on me and withheld sex until I gave her the engagement ring. That was a weapon in her shed but not the most powerful one. I never had an intention of putting off our wedding even if she were not what she claimed.

I kept thinking all the time what the hell I was thinking during the past two years. I am respected by most of my known people as a very intelligent and capable person. Many envy my material success. I am no Brad Pitt but no Shrek either. I had a very stable LTR with one of the best person I have ever met in my life. I lost her because of my wrong decision. I guess I need to associate more with you bros for a hassle free sex life.

Those of you have skepticism, I don't blame you. It is an incredible story. But I can assure you that my story is very light compared to some of the victims I have recently met with at my therapy center. Please inbox me if any of you would like to share more information. I hope I'll get over with it sometime with your solidarity and no one in this forum has to endure the same pain.

Drift Away

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14. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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I don't think there's a hassle free sex life seriously.....

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15. "Women, pro or civilian, they are all the same...."
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   If one does not get laid after 3/4 dates, she is *not attracted* to him.
You dumped your first SO and your hooker ex-girlfriend dumped you, fair and square.
You don't need no fucking therapy, just go get laid until your dick falls off...

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22. "RE: Women, pro or civilian, they are all the same...."
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here's another scam story for ya brothers. A stripper friend of mine made up her mind about 4 months ago that she will be married by the end of the year. She even made up her mind that she'd marry someone in the medical field. She's found two guys (an MD and a pharmacist) that have fallen "in love" with her. She is witholding sex until marriage and I can just see these guys with their aching blue balls chomping at the bit to fuck her. So much so that they are completely blind as to what they're getting into. She intends to be pregnant within a year of getting married.

She doesn't see anything wrong with dating two different guys with the intention of marrying one of them. (she also didnt see anything wrong with telling me about it - guess she needed to share her situation with someone?) She's a big fan of the bachelorette tv show and feels there's nothing abnormal about her wanting what she wants and making it happen. I guess the difference is the guys on the tv show know that the girl is shopping around and these two schmucks have no clue.

Oh yea, she's already picked out wedding rings with each dude.

Scary shit - I'm just so glad that all I had to pay for was some nice meals and a few expensive dates.

Two roads diverged and I chose the road down south

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23. "RE: Women, pro or civilian, they are all the same...."
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Aug-10 AT 08:57 PM (PST)
 
>here's another scam story for ya brothers. A stripper
>friend of mine made up her mind about 4 months ago that she
>will be married by the end of the year. She even made up
>her mind that she'd marry someone in the medical field.
>She's found two guys (an MD and a pharmacist) that have
>fallen "in love" with her. She is witholding sex until
>marriage and I can just see these guys with their aching
>blue balls chomping at the bit to fuck her. So much so that
>they are completely blind as to what they're getting into.
>She intends to be pregnant within a year of getting married.

She wants want all women want. Security. But she also wants her cake and to eat it all too. Selfish huh?

>She doesn't see anything wrong with dating two different
>guys with the intention of marrying one of them. (she also
>didnt see anything wrong with telling me about it - guess
>she needed to share her situation with someone?) She's a big
>fan of the bachelorette tv show and feels there's nothing
>abnormal about her wanting what she wants and making it
>happen. I guess the difference is the guys on the tv show
>know that the girl is shopping around and these two schmucks
>have no clue.

She's only thinking of what she gets. She's not marriage material IMHO, she's trophy wife material at best. She's also very conniving and extremely insensitive. We all know how this plays out. One loser chump...and one even bigger loser chump. You figure that part out.

>Oh yea, she's already picked out wedding rings with each
>dude.

So will she keep both? Or will she return one? According to Judge Judy Scheinlein, she is obligated by law (if she were sued) to return the one back to the one she didn't marry, if he bought it, and of course he always "buys" it. Check her on her BS, and go into all female-related relationships with BOTH eyes wide spanking open. Let little peter south go to sleep and think with Peter North, the brain.

>Scary shit - I'm just so glad that all I had to pay for was
>some nice meals and a few expensive dates.

You came out the champ among the 3 guys. You got what they are seeking, a good-looking piece of ass.

>Two roads diverged and I chose the road down south

We all try and choose the road down "South". We're dudes.

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25. "RE: Women, pro or civilian, they are all the same...."
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She picked out the rings with both dudes but I'm assuming she only gets the ring from the "lucky" guy that marries her. Then again I wouldn't put it past her to have the "loser" give her the ring in advance as a "gift".

She's very beautiful. But beauty alone does not make a trophy wife.

Two roads diverged and I chose the road down south

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17. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   Drifter, I applaud you for coming clean. Your posts have been very nasty and I was happy to hold it against you. With your confession I at least understand where the rage was coming from. Glad to hear you're getting some help.

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24. "RE: Those of you are in love Thread #2"
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   >I never wanted her to have a brand new pussy.

I was wondering about that all day. I'm guessing you and I have the same predilection for...

Old, unused pussy; yummy.

Frankly, I'm really hoping not to encounter another "I got fucked over by an RA" story for at least the rest of the year. I'm finding my recreation fund dwindling due to unexpected antiemetic purchases and an uncomfortable yearning for...

Shill Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith



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