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POLL: Got an STD at an aamp?
Posted by Dewby2 on 29-Aug-10, 01:01 AM PST
POLL ENDED: Result after a total of 77 votes

Yes 32 votes, 41%
No 45 votes, 58%

 
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amp_nomad
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4. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
In response to message #1
 
LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 01:03 PM (PST)
 
Everyone thinks he's a tough guy until humble pie knocks him down to earth, so go ahead and bbfs until shit catches up with you.


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3. "Poll results are BS"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 09:20 AM (PST)
 
This is one question best answered without a poll. It is unlikely that a member with an active non-Hobby and Hobby sex life could determine the origin of any transmission.

Forty percent acquisition rate is not credible.
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oralio oralio rating
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6. "RE: Poll results are BS"
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It's RB. It's 50 responses. Any fool who thinks ANY question on RB is scientific, poll or not, is a fool.

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5. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Do the poll results to this point strike anyone else as slightly ridiculous with the YES votes approaching 50%? Seems suspicious...

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8. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 03:31 PM (PST)
 
Ya think? I'm usually both surprised and delighted when I don't contract something during an AAMP visit; heck, no big deal.



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oralio oralio rating
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7. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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I know someone who got crabs at an aamp.

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9. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Dungeness?

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10. "How was it demonstrated an AAMP was the source ?"
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   >I know someone who got crabs at an aamp.

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How was it proven that the origin was the AAMP ? There's a time delay from the adult lice to lay eggs, hatch, multiply, and become noticeable and/or symptomatic.

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11. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Dungeness? Ummmm.

Those of us who have been around "a while" know that before HIV reared its ugly head it was all bare back all the time.

In many decades I encountered an STD only twice. Both overseas and a long time ago. In both cases the circumstances were such that they amounted to a warning and anyone with an ounce of common sense (which I apparently lacked at the time) would have know there was a serious risk.

Both also lacked access to soap and water, which my friends, along with a piss, is a very effective prophylactic if used promptly. Not as effective as a condom, but pretty effective.

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Astroglide
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12. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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>In many decades I encountered an STD only twice. Both
>overseas and a long time ago.

Which STDs ?

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13. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Astro is correct. It makes no sense to poll this as the ones who feel that they indeed did contract an STD via AAMPing are highly motivated to vote here. Those that haven't gotten a bug (the 10,000 or so rbhandles out there) are likely to ignore the post. The end result is the ridiculous almost 50/50 state we see in the poll, a number that implies something that is likely very untrue.

A more interesting question would be to ask what percentage of RB members get an STD versus the males in the general public who are regularly boffing civilians. Not sure that is doable within the confines of this community. I would bet the numbers are not much different.

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14. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   I highly doubt 40% of RB members have contracted an STD. Some people must be messing with the poll. And even if you did get an STD, how do you know where and from whom unless you have been monogamous. And even if a RA did have an STD, you would see a large spike in number of mongers who have come down with a STD. You would also see a spike in number of RAs going on extended vacation while they take care of STD infection given to them from hobbiest. With all the cross pollinating going on, there should be an epidemic due to RAs/hobbiests unknowingly passing around STD. Unless you know of such an epidemic, unlikely you contracted STD from a RA, let alone be able to track to a specific RA.

If you have an STD, get treatment and do not hobby until you are cured.

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15. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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I agree with the above assessment. The fact is that we are all seeing the same RA's. If there is an occurence of STD with any one of us or any one of these RA's, it would have spread pretty quickly to the rest of the RB community. We would all know about it.

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16. "We would not all know"
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   > We
>would all know about it.


Not all, in part because many STDs can have no symptoms, or the symptoms or signs may be ignored.

The restrictions on posting, difficulty in identifying the source(s), getting the source(s) treated, are just some of the factors complicating this issue.

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17. "RE: We would not all know"
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Well, I thought that people would go and get tested, and not wait for symptoms. I know I would if I heard that one of you got STD, regardless of the source.

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18. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Well I'm not sure that most mongers would post here that they had caught an STD. It also seems to me that on an ongoing basis RAs do disappear on extended vacations.

I'm not saying that the SF Bay aamp/amp scene is necessarily a cesspool of STDs but I am saying that those reasons for arguing that everyone is healthy are poor arguments.


Here's something to ponder on for a while. Hepatitis B is endemic in Chinese population. About 130 million Chinese are carriers and about 30 million suffer from chronic hep b. It often presents no initial symptoms. You could have it and not know. When you go to the Doc and get your STD tests they won't include hep b unless you demand it (or you explain that you are sexually active with a high risk group). Later in life you might come down with cirossis or cancer. There is a terrible stigma against hep b carriers in China with many employers requiring illegal blood tests and discriminating against carriers. Child carriers are sometimes denied access to school! Naturally under these conditions a culture of secrecy would develop. There are huge incentives against getting tested therefore many carriers are ignorant of their status and much more likely to pass it on.

The reason I brought this up is because so many (including doctors) think STDs = syphilis gonorrhea HIV.
Hep, HPV, warts, Herpes, etc get ignored. Damn with HPV, you may have no symptoms and then later you pass it onto your wife and then she gets cancer. How shitty would that be!? "Sorry 'bout the chemo honey. My bad."

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19. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   For all of those who said no in this poll- if not an aamp, where did you get your STD? At least, that's how I read the poll. ;)

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20. "RE: STD epidemic"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 10:41 PM (PST)
 
Instead of playing the blame game, why not accept that you have contracted a STD from somewhere, get treated and inform anyone you may have had contact with that they should get tested. Maybe it wasn't the RA who gave it to you. You could unknowingly be patient zero and be infecting any RA you had contact with. Does it really matter who started the epidemic? The important thing is to stop it's spread. Everyone involved should stop hobbying/providing, get tested and get treated if get a positive test.

A STD epidemic is bad for business and the hobby. Take responsibility and do the right thing.

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21. "RE: STD epidemic"
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   I may have to quit this hobby....

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22. "RE: STD epidemic"
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LAST EDITED ON 29-Aug-10 AT 11:32 PM (PST)
 
I suspect some of the 'Yes' are in denial. Please get your sorry ass tested and inform your bbfs partner(s) that you've given her one of your cute little std's. Personally, I've been hobbying less nowaday and only with the YMMV types because they're picky and more cautious.


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23. "RE: STD epidemic"
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   This is the big fear from public health too and why they bother LE to break AAMP's up.

Long ago I did get crabs, and I know because as I was leaving she told me she had crabs...I told her it was okay...but it wasn't and no condom keeps you safe from this one.

All I can say is use a condom for the terminal stuff, but things like HPV, crabs and scabies can come from other places.

Good Luck!

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24. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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The ratio doesn't seem all that far out of line on this one. The poll isn't saying that there's a 40% chance each visit, rather it's saying that over a lifetime of AAMPing, about 40% of the hobbyists caught something at least 1 time in their life.

True, if you're banging 7 different chicks a week you'll never know from whence your STD came, but for some lower volume players it will also be obvious.

NTO

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25. "RE: Got an STD at an aamp?"
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   Considering the regularity, variety and willingness to partake in some uncovered activities, I consider it an inevitability that a bug will catch up with me. For those veterans claiming BB for years and clean, I am amazed.

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