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HotForAsianAssMan
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"Monthly income for a popular RA"
 
I was doing some calculations:

Average 8 appointments per day at $200.00 equals $1600.00 gross, minus
house fee of $480.00 is $1120.00 net each working day.

$1120.00 times 20 working days per month equals $22,400.00.
$22,400 times 12 months equals $268,800. This is all tax free money!

A popular RA could work for four or five years and retire comfortably
if she managed her income correctly.

This might even be a conservative estimate.

The org are making a good income stream if they have two girls per apartment, say 12 appointments per day ,average. At
$60.00 per visit this is $720.00 per day and approximately $20,000 per month. Not bad for renting an apartment, providing, linen service, condoms and appointment scheduling.

I recognize these ladies are in a high risk, illegal occupation and have relative short working careers... but it has it's financial rewards..

Feel free to comment. Love to hear the input of other RB men.

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1. "RE: if she managed her income"
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   IF is a big word

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2. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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Yes, I've done similar back of the envelope calculations as you have, but I wonder if there are any ties to mafias back home for these girls. I have often wanted to ask them how they find out about the opportunity working in the US, and how does it compare with working and the pay at home.

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HotForAsianAssMan
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4. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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There has to be a higher network of sorts because the ladies move around from the South Bay, Peninsula, East Bay, LA and even change orgs within the Peninsula.

I believe the Korean ladies have the inside advantage in the
Aamp business because they have a much easier time getting Visas to come and work their trade.

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5. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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The girls are entering the US on visitor VISA, so they will need to leave and return from time to time.

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drifter09
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13. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   Most of the Chinese and Viet girls enter as beneficiary (green card) of relative immigrants. Also, there are some Asian guys (who are naturalized US citizens) they have a profession of going back to China and bringing girls as wives. They strike the deals through the relatives back home. It is a win-win deal for both the parties involved. In a life time, one such guy may bring up to three of these girls. This is kind of trafficking in literal sense. But in reality it is a business that is conducted by savvy buyers and sellers.

For Korean and Japanese sex girls it is a bit different scenario. These girls come here mostly as independents via their prospective employers mean AAMP recruiters. Many of the AAMP owners are Caucasian although all are managed by Asians. These managers/recruiters have channels back their homes to bring the workers here on tourist (B2) or student visas (F1). Some even come as business delegates (B1) by invitation from some legit US companies. This is a much complicated and well organized business than most of us can imagine.

Drift Away

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TwnCindy69
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7. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 09:25 AM (PST)
 
Bump

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Hawkeye6919
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3. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   You're probably not far off, but I think averaging 8 appts per day is a bit on the high side. On the other hand, I think many of the girls work 6 days a week, so 20 working days a month may be low. Plus the org probably has a few more expenses (listerine's not cheap

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jordan23
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6. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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I'm sure Uncle Sam is probably not too happy seeing those tax exempt numbers.

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8. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   Think of it this way. You're fucking rich bitch.
It's like picking up some cougar from nice club. Not like from 1015. But than again, RAs hang out at 1015.

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9. "So called 'new handles', always stirring the shit"
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What is it to you?

Do you want to "manage" them?

What is it with the constant obsession on what, WHO makes?

Do you not make enough?
Are you thinking about this as supplement income?
Do you NOT realize this is illegal?

Or do you just like to stir the shit and get everybody all riled up about how much money "who" makes? Maybe you are feeling guilty that you are so cheap and dont want to hand over 2oo-bucks?

I dont think you "Love to hear the input "
YOU just want to hear everyone chime in and bitch about how easy the girls are making money hand over fist and get everyone pissed off at them.

So, what do you think you're solving by posting this? WORLD PEACE?

Don't hate man! It will either eat you alive or you become one of those craigslist killers that have nothing but contempt for hookers. Either way, you are showing bad signs and having the RB "brotherood" give you the thumbs up doesnt make it right.

Leave it be, it is what it is. Don't crap on something you want to eat.

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10. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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There's usually never an easy way to earn really good money, legally or not. The smart gals in this business could probably run any small business really well. The dumb ones waste everything.

Your theoretical maximum gross is certainly a lot higher than the actual, and, as hinted above, the overseas gals can have additional "bills" to pay a syndicate (crime org). But that's not always the case. Some get themselves here on their own.

From my chats with some very popular RAs, most don't average 8 guys a day. They pace themselves with long lunches, breaks to go shopping (I've taken a few to Target), etc. Then there is that time of the month (I only knew one, a TAMP RA, who was happy to do FS during her period). Of course, there are always no-show customers, so there is unwanted downtime. too.

There ARE some MILFs who do 8-10 guys a day, every day, for 2-3 weeks, then rest or leave (go home to their usual hairdresser job in Phoenix or Texas or wherever).

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11. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 11:52 AM (PST)
 
you are one mad pimp, your girls either got bit up or robbed by

customers or the cop is watch you.

Watch your month.

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12. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   Your numbers are pretty reasonable. Financially they are much richer than most of the Johns here. The risk vs. reward is considerably low. These girls are mostly illiterate and pose no vocational skills. Chance of getting a decent job here or there in their homelands is very slim for these girls. Most of these girls are derailed in their early lives. The reason is not clear to me. I am quite sure most of them are seduced by their immediate families. Having said that, I've heard from some of them that their mothers were sex workers and fathers were either a patron or gate keeper or pimp. They take this profession as a family tradition.
Despite making so much money while in their prime, most of them end up miserably because of lack of education and moral character. In the end, some of them become penniless. Even if these sex workers enjoy a short material life, I salute those hard working little Asian girls working at the corner restaurants to make a decent living. They will never sell their bodies in exchange of $$, because the restaurant girls come from families that have taught them the meaning of a dignified life.
No worries just enjoy as much as you can. These sex workers are making money tax free to fulfill their craving for selfish materialistic lives. Hardly any one of them actually supports their families back home. Most of them don’t have anyone but themselves. Feel better that you are not one of them.

Drift Away

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14. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   This topic comes up every once in a while when a new handle poses this scenario. I have a strong suspicion that it is the same guy who likes to stir this up.

Having said that, why do you think most of the RAs don't stay too long? Because there is not enough business now a days. Most of the RAs get about 3-4 customers on an average for a week. They are happy if they make close to $ 10k a month, but some of them are probably making less. This has started to happen in 10 day houses too. After all the travel expenses and other related expenses to maintain themselves etc and having to pay rent if they are staying in the US as they have to maintain a home base, they don't probably make much. And a lot of them are supporting their parents, or sibling's education.

And remember it is a high risk business and if they get into trouble they have to pay for lawyers etc. And they have to deal with guys like you and me who they wouldn't want to deal with in a civvie life. They also have to deal with all the postings in RB and other forums about their looks etc. And that does take a toll which has costs other than purely monetary.

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15. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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Thanks for all the feedback fellas. Some of you are very venomous.
Hey I have no agenda here, I am not looking to manage or pimp the ladies.

It was only a natural curiosity as to the financial compulsion for these fine looking asian ladies to be in their profession.

I,for one, am thankful for these ladies, as they perform a wonderful service for a fair price. I was only wondering and hoping that a lot of this hard earned money is used wisely in preparation for their inevitable early retirement. Given the negative comments about MILFS, it sure seems that the young hotties get most of the money and customers. Therefore I was thinking a good business lady could do this profession correctly for a few years, get the hell out and retire.

When I came up with my scenario I was thinking of the ladies who book up by 10:00 am, day after day, not the average RA.

I am not jealous, nor envious of their earnings. They probably put up with more weird and ugly men that we can even imagine.

I wish them well. I love the Asian providers, they provide something
you cannot get anywhere else.

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23. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE THE "NICE GUY" THAT YOU SAY YOU ARE
THEN JUST
S.T.F.U.
and don't bring this up again or anything else that stirs up the shit about RA's in general.

Being curious is one thing.
Sticking your nose in someone else's business is annoying.
In a different environment, you get bitch slapped for it.

Let your actions be your words, rather than your words be doing all the damage that's already been done...If any of you clowns are serious in what you say, and say that you care: Then you wouldnt post this shit no more and help lock stupid thread's like this, down.

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16. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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>
>Feel free to comment. Love to hear the input of other RB
>men.

It's none of my buisness nor do I care, hope they all "make bank"!

But, I always pay in full, up front!!

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18. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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Before KP was shutdown they had a private RB forum.
The guy who ran it provided some interesting info about their economics. Below is some of the info he provided. Whether you believe him or not this is what he posted. I'm only posting this info because KP no longer exist and I believe its ok to now post this info here. Again this info came from his postings.

During boom times KP averaged 100 clients per weekday (with 8-10 no shows per day), and 75 clients over the weekend. But during recession they averaged 75 clients per weekday, and 50 clients over the weekend. That was with 9 locations and 20 girls working at one time. 70% of appts were hr sessions, 30% were hh sessions.

One day KP claimed they completed 56 appointments and had 38 no shows. The majority of their calls were generated by following ad sites (listed in order from most calls to least) Eros, KP website, RB, lovings, and various other sites. RB generated about 20% of their calls.

Most top K-girls expect to make 1k per day. If they do not they go else where. There are still several that make 1k per day, but those same girls were making 1.5k per day before. One popular RA (name removed) worked 5 days, made over 4K and considered that too slow. It is slow everywhere not just bayarea. Regardless popular girls continue to make over 1k per day, its the average girls that are hurting seeing 50% drop in biz.

A popular girl may see 7-8 guys per day and make 1k after house fees. They use visas lasting 1-6 months. Orgs pay for ads, girls pay for photos. Some of the girls live in Canada, LA, NYC, Korea. Girls working in LA may charge $300 there but $200 in bayarea. Girls refuse to take less than $150 with house fee at $50-60 per session. House fees in LA can be almost double bayarea fees.

Regular hobbyists during boom times might see girls 4-5 times per week, now they average 2-3 times per week. KP had about 20 regulars that would spend more than 2k per week there often booking mulitple hours. They had 30 regulars that spent at least 3k per week. The average K-girl makes about 20k per month.


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19. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   now imagine if they had girls that were 8s and above...

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21. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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Think of how many years he was in the business. That must have meant he made well over 7 figures himself.

Truly astonishing numbers.


"If it's paid, it's not true. It's fantasy."

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22. "You know what?"
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   Those are KP's numbers and Im seriously doubting if anybody else can match the numbers that guy's "corporation", did?

Everyone may have hated him, but that guy undeniably made money hand over fist in what he ran, when he was running it. To quote Kevin Bacon: "...those are the facts, and they are undisputable".
He spent ALOT on ads and mediums, and his return on his investment was double. And speaking of double(bookings), he did that to keep a oonstant stream of gents opening and closing that door and making sure they left 160 or 200 behind them.

KP was a fucking machine.

And the reality check now is that I don't think anyone is folowing in his footsteps and can say they are doing anything near those benchmark financial numbers that he did.

Nuff said!

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17. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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Only few girls can average 8 sessions per day now. Since our economy tanked, many girls are doing only 3-4 sessions per day. Many guys don't realize that this is a high stress job and most girls can effectively work only 8-9 months per year.


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24. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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   >many girls are doing only 3-4 sessions per day.

That's my guess too and Im thinking those girls that do get that are thanking us since that pays the bill and keeps them fed. not much else, but its keeping a roof over their head and sticking around so that maybe we can re-visit them for a follow-up? Or not?

Times are tough and those dot-com days of multiple visits a week per guy in here, are gone!

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20. "RE: Monthly income for a popular RA"
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I don't mind managing their finances.

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25. "Stop doing the math..."
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   They are one fuck away from getting busted/shutdown.
Stop counting their money and start thinking about how-to make more money for yourself.

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