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lynchypoo2
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"What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
 
   I've spent a lot of time checking the forums, but haven't really gotten any clarification... I've done the AAMP thing a few times now, and I'm considering trying the massage parlors, thinking it might be more economical. (I know, you get what you pay for. Don't bother arguing that point, I agree.) The problem seems to be that a lot of the girls move around, change names, and have a wide range of "extras" that they offer. I'm hoping to hear from someone that ONLY uses the massage parlors, to get their opinion of the best place to start. Once I get a comfortable with the routine, I'll start trying the new places. More specifically, I'd like to know what the normal operating procedure is (Do I go in as if I'm there just for a massage, then once in the room... do I need to ask for extras... does she offer... do I move her hand for her?) I've seen some postings where they talk about a "line up". Also, what is the most universal, sure fire way to assure the girls that I am NOT the police. The traditional AAMPS make it a much easier environment to just get naked to let them know I'm not a cop. In a place of business, I would expect a little bit less privacy.

Any advice on a great starting point to make the cross-over is much appreciated. Thanks.

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1. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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This would also be of interest to me. I plan on going to an AMP later this week. Probably RCAM.

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4. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-12 AT 09:22 AM (PST)
 
I am pretty much a 2/3's TAMP(AMP) guy.

Tip One: Read the reviews or this board for tips for a few places, find a place the meets your needs. Some guys just want a hj, others bj, others FS. If you just want a hj, dont select a place to has full service.

Tip Two: Recoon, Recoon, Recoon. Dont be afraid to try new places that have not been reviewed. I have found some very nice woman who work a accupunture offices, they can be very very nice if you know what I mean.

Tip Three: If you are looking for young ddg girls, going to TAMP's will probably not satisfy you needs most women are in 30 to 60 years old range, no kidding.

Tip Four: Someone will recommend that you go the Shoreline, you will find out that this is an "elusive" place....but worth the search.

Tip Five: Dont pay more than $40 for a clothed hj....these girls wil ask for more just refuse the extra service and move on.

Tip Six: Learn how the spot fake reviews and Shills. if it sounds to good to be true than it is.

Tip seven: Dont ask or discuss extras, she will intiate the extra you using body signals. Try to softly touch her leg when you are laying facedown, if she presses back, you will likey get an extra, if she stands 6 inches away from the table, probably no extras. Your Milage May Vary.....

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7. "RE: Tip Four"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-12 AT 02:24 PM (PST)
 

Indeed, OP, with careful application of these tips, one day you may work up to the golden pinnacle

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files2/y0f3z1045ww729zv.jpg

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25. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   I've been lurking on and off for years and I still don't know the whole Shoreline story.

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2. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-12 AT 04:36 AM (PST)
 
Its not too hard. While I'm no expert, maybe I can give you a few clues.


• Pick a place with reviews that show you some of the activities you are looking for.

Try RCAM (search reviews, type "relax center" in company box) to see some examples of a well reviewed establishment. I've been going there for some years. GREAT place.

• um..... go to RCAM! (no I am not a shill, just love the place)

• Be nice to the receptionist/mommasan. Be polite, make an appointment based on the reviews you've seen. Being nice --- even tipping the mommasan --- can help you in your quest. (Angela is the main lady at RCAM)

• When you get in to your room ask to take a shower, even if you're clean. It helps them to KNOW you are clean. Be in the act of "drying off" (totally naked) when the gal comes in.

• Introduce yourself, and give her a hug. If she lets you hug her for any length of time, move your hand gently down her back and touch her bum.

• When she asks "have you been here before?" or "first time here?" -- say "Yes, long time ago". "When she asks who you saw, use the name of a girl who has had a recent review there or just say you cannot remember.

• When you lay on the table do not cover yourself with a towel (you used it to dry off with , right? If she puts a towel over your bum, remove it or move it to your legs/feet.

• Make gentle, polite conversation, but let her do her thing. As she nears your hands, try touching her leg with a gentle "thank you" squeeze or pat. Otherwise don't touch unless she nod's ok when you ask. - Be polite, all these girls have limits of one sort or another - at least until they get to know you.

• When she asks you to flip over, make sure to remove that towel if it makes it to your groin!

• She should know what you are there for by now, and will likely will make a motion asking what you would like. You'll figure it out from there.


A more risky tip would be to leave at least $40 on the table as a tip ahead of the massage. Try not to say too much as the girls are not sure if you are LE or not. They do not want to get trapped vocally offering services..... thus the hand motions. Let them know what you do for a living, if the language barrier is not too difficult and dont wear mirror shades to the parlor!


Enjoy.

oh, and go to Relax Center.... you can't go wrong.


PS.. first post! long time lurker! (but I have reviewed)

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10. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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Great info Kono. Thanks for this post, and grats on breaking your post cherry!

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3. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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Personally, When I go to or see a new to me place or person. I lay on the table with my shorts on. That has worked for me. They will ask that the shorts be removed, if they are comfortable with you.

As for the other responce above. Where it seems like he keeps removing the towel one way or another. That seems to me a bit of a hit and miss. Keeping in mind that also works for some. and by no means ever leave any money laying out as a hint. That could lead her to think set up. If she brought change back to you, because you didn't pay at the entrance, then that's ok to leave out.

Keep in mind, That no matter what your reason for going to get a massage is for. Do your research first. Some people just want a straight up no HE massage, while others are looking for well you know. Trust me, it'll be more enjoyable that way.

Let her take the lead and don't be pushy. When the time comes, you will know. Happy hunting.

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5. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   Great stuff bros.

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6. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   There is a "dance" as you get to know a new girl at a TAMP, a back and forth tease that lets you both check what the other is looking for.

Start with your shorts on or off, with the towel on, off, or under (I drip precum during a sensual massage, so putting the towel under my body helps keep their table clean), but give her a few opportunities to catch glimpses of your ass and junior.

When she is massaging your lower back and drifts to your ass, moan (not too loudly - they often want things to stay quiet) or wiggle appreciatively.

When she is massaging your legs, open them a bit so she can get to your upper thighs. If she "accidentally" brushes up against junior or your sack, show that you are okay with that, and encourage more. I find that having my cock positioned so that it is down the side of a leg allows it to get hard easier during the massage, as well as being more visible and accessible to her.

Make sure she knows you're hard when you roll over.

Other things you can do include gently stroking her arms, holding her hand (when they massage up your arms to your fingers), gently stroking her legs as she works on your back, etc. Hugs and kisses are also good when you are a repeat customer, and giving her a short massage (neck/shoulders and lower back) can be a way to get physically closer to her.

The most important thing is to treat her nicely, be polite, and don't force her to do anything she is not comfortable doing (different girls will have different things that they do or don't allow).

Will these techniques work every time? No. There are some girls who are strictly above-board in everything they do (and it's good to know at least one of these, because sometimes what you really want and need is an actual massage). Others will only play with those who they like, or are attracted to, and others will only play when they know the customer is a good tipper. On the other hand, my first "extras" experience at a TAMP was a complete (and wonderful) surprise for me. I didn't do anything to encourage her, except to have a hard cock when I rolled over, and she went straight for it, telling me that I needed to relax every muscle.

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8. "RE: Thanks for the info"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-12 AT 09:09 PM (PST)
 
Thanks everyone for the tips. The "dance" involved is the same with any activities, but I had assumed that it was slightly different since there is an actual business license and storefront involved. I'll be sure to do as much homework and recon as I can before I venture out there. Thanks again.

Another thing, while doing some homework, I see that some of these places list $40-$60 per hour as their rate. Is this the "House" fee that you pay to the front desk, and then everything else in the room is negotiated seperately? Or, do you normally get into the room, discuss what services you're there for? At which point she would give your money to the desk, and then return to deliver services.

One of the reasons I'd like to go to the massage parlors is because the massage portion of my AAMP visits has been downright horrible. I think being forced onto a Japanese train would be more relaxing than some of the massages I've received. I'm looking ofr some girls that can actually give decent massages with some of the added benefits.

Also, if anyone that has some experience would like to give out some of the more sensitive info, it would be appreciated. On average, how much can I expect to pay for the following at a massage parlor:

Massage Only = ?
HJ = ?
CBJ =
BBBJ = ?
FS = ?
RBGFE = ?
MSOG = ?

Most, if not all, of these services are included in the typical AAMP experience for the standard $140-$200 price range. I'd prefer to not spend 15 minutes of a one hour appointment negotiating in broken english. I normally don't walk in to ANY place with more cash than I need for any hobbying activities. I understand if you're not comfortable puting this info out on the open forums. Feel free to inbox me if that is the case.

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11. "RE: Thanks for the info"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-Jul-12 AT 00:16 AM (PST)
 
The $40-$60 is the house fee for massages. anything else is additional tips.

but keep in mind, you are new to this and most likely, not much more than a HE will be offered.

Please be respectful, and honor the ladies comfort zone. If they maintain a distance from you, don't push it.

Respect, respect, respect goes along way.

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9. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-12 AT 08:37 PM (PST)
 
Touch them gently when they get into the room, rub their back or thigh.

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12. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   I always take shower to show i'm clean, then nude with towel. next i let my "happy" speak for itself by saluting. while face down i let it point down and she touch if long enough or just balls, and I keep legs open enough. then when i flip, i say HELLO and if she is comfy she grab the pole and give death grip. Discuss price during death grip. Very fun.

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13. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   Great advice, everyone...

They will often ask "soft, medium, or hard" before the massage. Recently I've being saying soft, assuming that will give them the clue that I'm not there for the massage. Of course if you want a good massage in the process, ignore this. Since I've started this though they seem to go to the good stuff a lot quicker.

Doing research is obviously good advice, but what's the general consensus on reviews on these places? After everything that went down in Lafayette I'm reluctant to leave reviews and draw attention to a favorite place and find it shut down later. On the other hand, I want to help my RB brothers out as well... It also makes me wonder if there are hidden gems out there that no one is reviews for this very reason.

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14. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   Good point blucas. What I will sometimes do is to point out my shoulders or lower back and say "hard massage here, then soft everywhere else". A good RA will give you a great massage on those spots , then move on to the extras.

Of course, it's hard to find a girl who gives a good massage and good extras. Giving an actual massage is often more tiring than giving extras.I once had an RA tell me (about ten minutes into the hour) "My hands are tired, you roll over now", and went straight into HE mode..

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15. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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I would also add. Some guys go out of their way to prove to the girl they are not a cop. What they forget is to take things slow at first to check to see if you are at an undercover sting. A bad sign is when the ghirl comes in does not touch you. Then says you been here before right? It is $100 for fuck and suck. That would be a good time to say I just came for a massage and am leaving.

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16. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   There's a lot of mostly good advice up there. I'd also add that if you go into it expecting a decent massage and no more and see any extras as being, well, extra it's nice. Try any place new that pops up, what's the worst that can happen? You're out the price of a massage. After a while you'll develop a strategy but more importantly you'll just have that been there, done that look that gets results.

And it is a little random - one day you'll go to a place you thought was legit and and you sent no signals and did none of the tricks above and they'll provide extras without asking, just assuming you've been getting them from the other girls (speaking of which, always bring enough for FS with you even if you think it's a HJ or no extras place). Or you'll go to a regular extras place and not get anything because the girl's new or the police just scared them and they're laying low for a bit.

If you don't like massages or don't care about massages I'd stick with other options.

Other than that... if they offer you a shower before the massage, say yes. Be polite. If they say no don't beg.

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17. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 06-Jul-12 AT 03:18 PM (PST)
 
First post for me, but I like the massage parlor experience so figured I would post up my thoughts as well!!!

I kinda enjoy the dance. Just because you don't get what you want the first time don't let that stop you from coming back as they need to get to know you and you know them.

There are times for me when I know what I want and make an appointment with a girl that I know will meet my needs. However, there are many times that I just enjoy going without making an appointment and just see what happens. If all I get is a massage then great, if I get more not expecting it then wonderful!

Personally if I'm doing as my last statement above says, I just go in with nothing more than a massage in mind. I make no hints to wanting more and I just see where the hour goes. Some of my best experiences happen during these times. It's nice when you go for a massage and leave with a BBBJ.

However, what I do dislike is a robotic HE that you get sometimes. I have actually told them to stop before because there is no way I'm going to get into it if they are not. There is nothing worse than a robotic HE attempt.

Don't expect young girls waiting for you at the door. As stated earlier most in an AMP are in their 30's. However, there is a lot to be said for experience if you know what I mean. As long as the place is clean and so are the girls, I don't mind.

For me I don't shower at an AMP. The only thing I have ever contracted in my life was athletes foot from using the showers at the gym. No thanks. However, when I do go it's local so I take a shower before I leave and my hair is wet when I arrive. When asked I just say I don't need too as I just showered. Never been an issue for me.

It's also nice going to a place that's reviewed as totally legit and leave with more than you bargained for. The current place that I go too was like that. When I first started it was totally legit, then one day out of the blue I walked out with a HJ. Now it's pretty much anything goes for me but the most I ever want is a BBBJ. I've only been doing this for about a year now and never quite went the full service route.

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18. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   All great advice. I'm still unclear as to what the expected donation amounts would be. If I had to guess, these would be my numbers. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

Massage Only/House Fee = $40-60
HJ = additional $30
CBJ = additional $40
BBBJ = additional $50
FS = additional $100
RBGFE = additional $100-140
MSOG = additional $100-150 (if they even do MSOG at AMPs)

Again, these are just pure guesses on my part, based on prices at AAMPs. I guess I'm searching for that perfect balance between massage skils and extras. I had an RA that I've been a regular with for a while. But, it seems like the more visits I have the less massaging she does. It's at the point now where I get 3 or 4 pops in an hour with NO massage. I know, boo hoo, poor me. I get it. I appreciate what I've got. But I always leave with my back being worse off that when I showed up. I feel so used, she just wants me for sex! (I can already hear the tiny violins, no need to make it any worse.)

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20. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   "Massage Only/House Fee = $40-60
HJ = additional $30
CBJ = additional $40
BBBJ = additional $50
FS = additional $100
RBGFE = additional $100-140
MSOG = additional $100-150 (if they even do MSOG at AMPs)"
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All Inclusive Grand Total = $460-$570

That sounds much higher than $$ AAMP.

"It's at the point now where I get 3 or 4 pops in an hour with NO massage."

Want to swap her?

- Drift Away

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24. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   I didn't mean to imply that the prices would be consecutive. What I meant was MSOG for 100-150 would include FS AND a HJ, CBJ or BBBJ. This seems reasonable since at most AAMPs, the girls only get to keep about $100 of the money. The rest goes to the org to cover overhead.

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19. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 06-Jul-12 AT 07:50 PM (PST)
 
Lots of good advice here but the true gem is from this one-post guy: "Be in the act of "drying off" (totally naked) when the gal comes in." That is the most important part of the routine for me especially when I'm at a new place. Never, ever, ever lie down on the table while alone in the room.

When I hear that knock on the door, "Ready?" the answer is always "yes, come in" and I'm drying off or taking 10 minutes to put my cell phone on 'silent'. The towel goes on the chair and the pre-massage embrace ensues. A little chit chat, then generally the RA says, "Massage now!" I always try the "massage later!" thing which rarely works but leaves little doubt as to my purpose for being there.

Try the slam-dunk places mentioned here, then go out and find others that suit you. My most memorable experiences have generally been from first-time visits as my expectations are low and easy to fulfill.

Edit:

I just re-read Mr. Kono's post and I dare say I could have written it myself. With a few minor variations, it's almost like he's been watching me. Dude, that wasn't you the other day, was it?

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21. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   1. When you enter, the mamasan will ask you to pay and go to the room. Say "Let me pick the girl first." This does 3 things: It lets them know you know what you're doing, it lets them know you want a cute girl (which signals why you're there), and it lets you make sure you get a cute girl. If they won't do a lineup, move on, there's plenty of places that will.

2. As said several times, always shower, then greet them naked, and give them a hug, and pinch their butt. They should giggle or otherwise seem fine with it. If they seem reluctant to hug, toss the girl out and ask for another. Someone there will want to hug you, if you know what I mean.

3. When she asks for hard / soft, say "Hard first, then soft" or "Hard on my back, soft everywhere else." They know what soft touch means.

4. Negotiate the full experience. Want her nude? Want to touch her? If she's insisting on 60 for the hj, make sure you get all the other goodies, and negotiate them before you hand over any cash.

5. Remember, girls work mostly for tips, so she'll want to make you happy.

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22. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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>I just re-read Mr. Kono's post and I dare say I could have
>written it myself. With a few minor variations, it's almost
>like he's been watching me. Dude, that wasn't you the other
>day, was it?

This is a small world you know... that may very well have been me lurking in the shadows!

Thanks for all the kind compliments on my post. I really just wanted to share my more new-ish experiences with the OP, and to emphasize respect and politeness for the girls. It will really truly get you further than anything else.

As to prices, in general I feel thus:
45-60 for the house
20-30 tip for therapeutic
40-60 tip for hand job and a little touchy feely
60-80 for mouth action, or daty.
100+ for full service.

Note that I have not yet frequented a FS massage parlor, and prefer these TAMP style experiences, however if I wished to partake, I would expect to get FS for 100-120 range. I go 70% for the massage, and need a good strong one myself for a good overall experience.

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23. "RE: What to expect from massage parlors/How to get started?"
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   I'm fairly new to the amp scene as well. I remember the first time I went, massage started, midway thru she whispered if I wanted more, I said Yes. She then said leave tip on table and walked out of the room. I had no idea how much tip to leave, so I put 40. When she came back and saw the 40,well the demure asian girl turned animated. She started doing hand signals for services, 60 for hj, 80 for bj, and 120 for fs. We settled at 100 for fs since that is all I had.

Now, after trying it for a few years, things come a little bit more naturally, and I have a little more confidence and know how to ask for more. Just the other day I was at this amp in the san rafael area. We had settled on a bj for 80. As she starts putting on the rubber, I give her this sad face, em I'm sorry I don't like rubbers can you leave it off please. She goes OK, and begins giving me the most incredible bbbj with cim. Wow that was a memorable happy ending!

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