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"20/20 on Friday night (part 2)"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 22-Mar-08 AT 01:52 PM (PST)
 
I noticed on one instance that some guys see providers and spend the entire time just talking with the provider and there is not sexual contact at all. I can see how a lonely man in need of a listening ear might be doing this. Does that happen here?
On a second note, I notice that providers come from broken homes where child abuse is evidendt or the lack of a loving and supportive upbringing, and use prostitution as a last resort. Is that also true here? Or is this just full of @#$@# and you all are in it for the thrill and money?

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1. "RE: 20/20 on Friday night (part 2)"
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LAST EDITED ON 22-Mar-08 AT 02:54 PM (PST)
 
>>"On a second note, I notice that providers come from broken homes where child abuse is evidendt or the lack of a loving and supportive upbringing, and use prostitution as a last resort. Is that also true here? Or is this just full of @#$@# and you all are in it for the thrill and money?"<<

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2. "RE: 20/20 on Friday night (part 2)"
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The menu, of why men, and perhaps some women like the "liaison", for money, or for compensation "in kind" (quid pro quo) are widely varied, but almost all the time linked with HUMAN issues, IMHO:

1..Some of the men, in fact, just want the companionship of a woman, to talk, go to dinner, exchange ideas, vent (about life or an SO)
Thus, they respond to ads, promising companionship, listening, intelligent conversation, an upbeat attitude.

2. Some men, and women...are drawn to the offer of pure, raw sex,
perhaps a rarity in their relationship, if they have one...sort of a "supplement". Or they may just be plain HORNY!

3. Some men, and women, are drawn to the "conquest" mystique, for very little financial output, as opposed to "courting, dating and , marriage costs". This approach seems/appears to be an HONEST, straightforward, and DIRECT way to cover all their intentions portrayed in Items 1-3 above, all inclusive.

4. Some men and women see this as a cathartic process to diminish the HUMAN value of a woman or man with the labels of Johns and
Whores.

5. Finally, this seems to be perceived as a platform for quick financial success, enabling the goal oriented woman, to achieve
quick results to meet her future goals as an entrepreneur.

The reality is: The male of the species, probably all the way back to the "Adam/Snake/Eve" scenario, has priced the woman's "special assets, empowered her to barter for their value, and leverage as an asset. Man, thus has ENABLED the behavior, used it as barter with other men (commercially) for gain, whether it was psychological, political, or material.

Women, on the other hand, particularly in a challenged/abusive environment, have (at least psychologically) sensed the intrinsic, seemingly material value of their "assets", particularly, if they were raped, abused, bartered in an early age. Again, THE MALE OF THE SPECIAL (predominantly) EMPOWERED HER to these feelings/discoveries.
So, when able to, or as a survival card, not use it?

I met a provider SEVEN YEARDS AGO, who had quit the business out of respect for her (then) little son, and encumbered upon a "straight" path. shortly thereafter she became a "born-again christian".
Ti this day she punishes herself, almost daily, for her past SINS.
she has turned from an smart, self-assured, energetic woman into a whining, co-dependent, dull and unimaginative person. Her confession to me, when I first met her..."I love sex" and this was just right for me...I can do it AND GET PAID!

So, this is just a slice of my understanding of why women become "hookers" and men become "Johns". Although I don't like the one-sided perspective of Ms Sawyer, she has stirred the discussion, and perhaps, in time, we gain a bit more understanding in the HUMAN dynamics evidenced (just a scratch) in this "special".

'nough said...I went WAY past my limit! the fire storm can commence now!

Listening is SHOWING CONCERN
KH49

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3. "RE: 20/20 on Friday night (part 2)"
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   I remember hearing on the news someone quoting, "Heck, if man didn't have the urge to have sex or be attracted to the opposite sex, mankind would have been annihilated a long time ago."

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4. "RE: 20/20 on Friday night (part 2)"
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LAST EDITED ON 22-Mar-08 AT 10:20 PM (PST)
 
There was, in fact, a religious (protestant) sect in Northern Germany, which preached NO SEX. Guess what, they died out!

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