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ccajon click here to view user rating
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"Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
 
LAST EDITED ON 24-Apr-10 AT 08:11 PM (PST)
 

About a month or two ago, I let a provider stay with me for a few days. I let her access my computer, and thought she would access Red Book using her own account. Instead, she accessed RB using my account, which was already automatically logged into my ID. She put up many negative ratings of Red Bookers I guess she had issues with, under my ccajon ID, of course. I probably should have posted this a month ago, but I thought she'd only posted negative ratings to a couple of folks. Seems like she must have posted it to a few hundred members. So there you go. Let me know if you're one of the affected, and I will change your rating. And please, change mine too, as I've gotten a ton of negative ratings as a result of this.

And, I already know, never let someone know your login/password to Red Book. What can I say. I did get a couple of free BBBJCIM out of it.

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1. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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Well I hope you learned a lesson here. Sure you got some bbbjtcim out of it but it's not worth losing respect of some good rb people/friends.

Heather XO
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2. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   That is kind of curious, I have a negative rating from you and always wondered why. That may have answered my question, or I did piss you off and you can tell me how.

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3. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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Well, are you going to out who this provider was or you going to cover for her? You should warn others about her or you might get more negative ratings.

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4. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   I agree (although we won't allow it in this forum)......you/she gave me a negative rating,so I rated you as having your own opinion of me....no biggie, you got a +2 from me. Although I dont mind being rated negative, I was curious as to why.

"Hooked on Crack"

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6. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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"I agree (although we won't allow it in this forum)......"


Are you serious? I've touched on this before but I really have to just admit now that I hate the way this forum is moderated. Reminds me of political correctness run amuck. Going off to puke now.

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8. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   It would be NO different than myself, saying YOU used my computer to rate people, or stole money from me, etc. This is NOT our problem, but it is the OP's problem. It was nice of him to come forward and admit what happened, but there is no VALID proof.

I'm not saying he's lying, but this is the main reason we don't allow the "he said, she said bullshit" in this forum. There are other forums where this information can be posted.


"Hooked on Crack"

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7. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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LAST EDITED ON 25-Apr-10 AT 01:49 AM (PST)
 
>> Well, are you going to out who this provider was or you going to cover for her? <<

Should he choose to report who this provider is, it seems that the truly correct venue for such a post would be the Neighborhood Watch forum. Depending on the specifics of the circumstances and the level of detail he provides, it might not stick there though

If my experience, and that of a few others I have noted is any indicator, five bucks says that if he knows her well, he'll catch a ration of shit from her fans (notice I didn't say lapdogs or hired guns) for saying anything about it.

Why is that you may ask?

Because if he knows her well enough to repeat regularly, and to the point where he will grant favors, such as let her stay in his home, a special or romantic relationship will be perceived or implied that is outside the narrow confines of your typical, one off, client/provider, all standard boundaries in place, non-relationship session.

Whether such a "special" relationship truly exists in the heart and mind of either party or not, becomes immaterial. One will be assigned. True or not, absurd or not.

If someone introduces and/or promotes the relationship and/or the "he said she said" angle to explain and/or excuse poor and unprofessional conduct on the part of the provider, most will be led or coerced into believing that one or both parties have forgotten or dismissed the underlying professional nature of their relationship.

My advice to the OP? Apology accepted. Just fix the feedback thing.

Beyond that, fuck it. Save your breath.

Even if it's Crystal Clear that every detail of the account you give is the God's Truth, and nothing but the Truth, you bear no malice, and you have absolutely nothing to gain by disseminating any falsehood..........well, it just ain't worth the headache.

If I had any reason to believe that exposing a few more examples of unconscionably poor professional conduct (of a few that I know beyond just sessions) would be appropriately received, and viewed/analyzed objectively, I'd probably do a couple a more bootsy ass provider posts myself.

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16. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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LAST EDITED ON 25-Apr-10 AT 12:04 PM (PST)
 
>Well, are you going to out who this provider was or you
>going to cover for her? You should warn others about her or
>you might get more negative ratings.

She's an old friend from Stockton Blvd and Sacramento, and I've know her for over 7 years, which is a lifetime in this business. So, no I'm not going to "out" her because that wouldn't solve anything.

She's pushing 40, and has been on the Stockton/Sacramento, and Figueroa Blvd. tracks for 20 plus years, so I long ago granted her her little Bi-Polar Moments.

I asked her about having her own account, and she told me she uses a couple of her friends accounts.

Some of you folks really got upset about getting a negative rating, and acted like it would ruin your life. This is only a whore-board, after all, and while I'm sorry the negative ratings occured, there was no need to call me the names you did. Very childish. I mean, really, to give me a plus rating just so you can roast me in the comment section? And some of the inboxs I got from providers who I thought had at least somewhat of a level head on there shoulders.

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5. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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I got one, and I did check things out and noticed quite a few others.

I thought you did it to get a rise out of me for some reason, so I figured it might bug you more if I ignored it, so I did.

I knew for a fact that we have never addressed each other directly, so I'll admit it was a bit confusing and irritating yo not know why.

I did post a response/comment to a post Wiseguy put up to a thread in HOP.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID34/6983.html#10


Now I'm left wondering........who is this woman I seem to have pissed off?

I very rarely get after anyone at all so it makes me wonder if she might owe me. Only two of those that that do have CIM on the menu, so that narrows the field quite a bit, but I'm not trippin' or losing any sleep over it, so no harm done.

So far as providers using my computer, I log myself out and make them use a guest account. Before they are done, I remind them to, and insist that they log out of their RB, MySpace, Facebook, Photobucket, Email and whatever they have been doing.

Even then, some of them forget one thing or another and I have to log them out and delete stored info myself if something pops up or is left open. Especially if they have been on it (laptop, desktop, or both) off and on for days.

Thanks for posting this thread in explanation.
No hard feelings.

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9. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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I have a no password required GUEST on my computer. Whenever ANYONE wants to use it I log off and put them on guest where they have no access to to my area.

"BBB Lover"


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10. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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Really, even though I think he might want to out her in some other forum if he likes, wtf is the difference if he does or not? Lets say it is provider "xyz" and he outs her. BFD. Does that mean you would trust all other providers with your computer just because it is not her? Right.

He made an incredibly stupid decision and he is now facing the consequences. Who she is, is irrelevant. The fact that you do not trust ANYONE with you computer access is the point. For me, all people are treated the same, provider or not; I do not trust or mistrust them until I have a reason, then that is what I do.

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11. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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LAST EDITED ON 25-Apr-10 AT 08:20 AM (PST)
 
noworeezm8 wrote:
Why is that you may ask?

Because if he knows her well enough to repeat regularly, and to the point where he will grant favors, such as let her stay in his home, a special or romantic relationship will be perceived or implied that is outside the narrow confines of your typical, one off, client/provider, all standard boundaries in place, non-relationship session.

Whether such a "special" relationship truly exists in the heart and mind of either party or not, becomes immaterial. One will be assigned. True or not, absurd or not.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID21/37559.html#7

Excellent post!!!

It has been said life is a great teacher, you have learned your lesson well, thank you.



lovenastyfun
Now that you have had your “puke”, lol, please read noworeezm8 post for I believe you will better understand the situation and Rigid’s response.

I understand your frustration, however if you hate the way this forum is being moderated now, trust me, you would really hate it if we fall back to the past drama that was here.

I trust implicitly, what ccajon is saying is the truth. However, we are not judges in black robes who decides which case of “done me wrong” is credible, therefore we must not allow any of it. Sometimes being a moderator sucks, but such is life. There are other posting options on RB.



Ccajon
Thank you for your clearing up the situation. I feel your pain for a trust being violated. Anyone who has lived has experienced a violation of trust. All hobbyists who are active and have formed friendships, or off the clock hanging out experiences with providers, have or will have at least one situation where a trust is betrayed. No one is immune to this. Most us learn our lesson and keep it private. It is not easy to own up to a mistake and make it public even though it has to be done to correct the mistake that affects others. I applaud you.


Edit: sportsman20 I didn’t see your post before responding. Very good point you made.

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12. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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Yeah, I got a negative rating (-2) from you too. I thought, what the hell - no guts to say why!

Somehow I think you deserve the -1 that I gave you just for letting her in your computer, let alone for keeping you login/password active in there.

Did you give her full access to your bank account too?

Having read your post, you do sound like a lot of CEO's that I have met in the past (I always wonder what makes a guy a CEO - must have something to do with.....).

Anyway, I'll pull my negative rating when I see some positve imput from you in the fourm.

If my comments seem harsh - well then 'man up' wait it out.

Cheers!
Tony95603

PS. This is really just too funny! LMAO

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13. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   I can't believe anyone gives a fuck about these idiotic circle jerk ratings that has no place on a man's board!

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14. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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While your point has some merit, some care and some don’t. Why do you care if some people care, lol.

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17. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   Well, if you care that I care that some people care, than I can care that you care that I care about the people who care, right?

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15. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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Thanks for fixing mine. Hope you learned your lesson. Of course now I'd love to know WHO, but really in the grand scheme of things, it means little.

Meows n lix,
MarvelousMarie

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18. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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You gave me a negative tho I never retaliated

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19. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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I got a neg rating from you also, thanks for clearing up the mystery. but now its bugging me. who is the girl? but i understand your position, no big deal.

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20. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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   I still stand by the post in the HOP;

"Wow, my first negitive rating(given freely by the OP of this thread)! I wonder why? Did I run over your cat? I really did hit the brakes.....bummer....took a week to get my car clean.
Maybe I hit on your girlfriend in that restaurant...quite honestly, I thought she was a hooker...so it was ok....lol.

Lighten up dude....have some fun, and btw...I really didn't kill your cat...it was already dead....

Edit: after extensive research, I have determined the poster in question handed out TONS of negitives(look at his feedbacks)....me thinks he is treating us as lab rats in an experiment, ok it worked!!!"

I don't believe the "girl on the computer" story. I think
our negative giver got frustrated at life and let it fly.

It's ok with me...kinda thought it was funny. Someone needs a little help....IMHO, as always.

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21. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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"me thinks he is treating us as lab rats in an experiment, ok it worked!!!


The House of Pain does not endorse or support punking people in the Sacramento Lounge. Long live the Purple Nurple. lol

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22. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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I am surprised no one has mentioned the possibility that this could still be the mystery provider posting, in which case one has to wonder what has become of Ccajon???

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23. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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good point, jewels!

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24. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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The mystery provider probably would not go about the effort to change all the negative ratings to positive which is what seems to be happening.

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25. "RE: Why some of you got negative ratings from me for no reason."
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LAST EDITED ON 27-Apr-10 AT 03:11 AM (PST)
 
>The mystery provider probably would not go about the effort
>to change all the negative ratings to positive which is what
>seems to be happening.

I thought about that, HS, but then the thought occurred to me that what if the mystery provider was continuing her deception and wanted to make it look like ccajon was now back in control of his account by changing the negative ratings. Many of the negative ratings were changed to positive on 4/14/10. Although in the OP it says the extent of the problem wasn't discovered right away, why wait 10 days to make this post? Why not post what happened back on the 14th or whenever the negative ratings were first changed to positive?

Ah the plot thickens. I guess I have watched too many Perry Mason, Columbo and Streets of SF shows.


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