And I have done a tour or two. And I have done time in jail. And I have gotten in a lot of dangerous situations where good people were being coerced against there will and violence (which comes in many sub-physical / sub-sexual forms) was being committed against someone and I felt that I reacted the correct way.

I just wanted to throw an idea out there, and we will see how long this thread lasts (all I can ask from the Mod. is that they at least give me a half-assed explanation of why it was deleted or moved, and that will be sufficient).

My former handle was Santaclaus1 - if anyone needs references. I am a longtime street game monger whom has dabbled in the Sac. scene and the Bay, and overseas as well. I have stood in the courtyard of the Days Inn and witnessed a virtual smorgasboarg of activity in the last two months, and wondered if even Corky could get laid with a $20 bill in his hand there.

Here is my suggestion to Bandalero, and any others that are tired of the progression of young black (and occasionially white and hispanic) girls that are always pimped. and I do mean always.

i used to be open minded after having a couple gems of experiences. I found a few girls (by sheer blind luck) that were drinking at bars, or going to casinos, or at a gas station - whatever. And they were just getting into the biz or contemplating it. And I was able to become a regular of theirs and (maybe) save them from having to be attached to this scum that bandalero identified.

But lately, as I stroll through the new postings on a search of redbook (look for views, least viewed, ascending, in Sac market), and I have become convined that 9 out of 10 girls are pimped. This thoery was even more solidified when I recently took a girl to an establishment on hwy 50 and Howe / folsom blvd. and I did not even feel safe at that type of motel. there was one gorilla pimp to every three girls, and the girl I was with - whom was a civi. - was scared for her life, and we had to leave.

This is a real epidemic. And I have a fear that the pimps are moving the game up here from the Bay on an unprecedentd level due to the economy, and our lack of experience with this type of management influence. I think there was a time here on RB - maybe five years ago - when your percentage of girls that were pimped was closer to 50%. Now I am going with 80% or more.

Here is my doctrine. We form a perfectly legal forum that identifies potentially "managed" girls. We do the work. We pick at least one girl a week whom looks clearly managed, and we scope it and do a review on it (even if we don't want to). When the review is complete, she is outed as being managed, and goes into our database. She is out!!!! I'm not trying to be a hardass to her - but we need to cut off the hand that feeds the mouth. And we need to then take that information, and not leave it in review form - but create a forum where everyone can check on pimped status of girls.

I was going to suggest a more radical approach, but I will do this on my own if I so choose. I do not want to offend the Mod. or RB with my radical counter-insurgency ideas. We need to infiltrate and do our own intelligence on this. We need to out these guys, their names, their cars, their license numbers, their everything, and make them uncomfortable. Put them on their heels. And let these girls know that even though daddy will take care of them, he will need to work to do it, because we will not be paying for his rent.

Rain Man - yeah definitely judge wapner!

I don't believe that there's some HUGE increase of pimps or even influx of pimps into Sac, what I think has happened is YOU have walked clearly into the DEEP end of the "seedy" side of this business and see more and are exposed more and sense and now see more than the typical player here.

Becoming more conscious of what happens behind the scene can be shocking and disturbing.

Moral of the story being the next time you find a good parking spot on your way to an incall, it may not be as much a matter providence as you might think it is.

It's like the drug trade. Hard to stop supply when there is so much demand. To many knuckleheaded guys out there who I really don't think care whether a girl is pimped or not.

Out em all you want. There will always be some dumbass horny guy with his pecker in his hand wanting to see them. Look how many ladies are on here with consistently bad reviews and guys continue to see them and experience the same poor service only because they're hot looking. It's a revolving door that never stops.

I do wish you luck though.

Identifying the “managed” provider can get problematic considering the number of woman, agencies, and “pimped” by choice situations. A number of women need and want assistance with the tasks related to of the business end of providing.

And as I said before the man discovered outside waiting might be her pimp, but also could be an impoverished relative, lapdog hobbyist, or the dope man waiting for you to finish your business so he can do his business. The average hobbyist who sneaks away from the SO for a session will not have the time or experience to provide credible information on the type of bad ass pimps that is the primary concern here.

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Too much sex is still not enough

And the idea of trying to "infiltrate" the world of girls under the control of "gorilla" pimps seems a little far-fetched. Are you suggesting that guys session with these girls for the purpose of gathering intelligence? Or do you have in mind that guys merely find out where these girls are working and then conduct amateur stakeouts? Either way, you're asking guys to spend time, money, and undertake certain risks not for their own gain, but instead for the greater good. That's just not going to happen.

It may not be easy to identify all the girls under pimp control, but many of them ARE easy to spot, or at least strongly suspect. So we can all do our little part by not seeing those girls. But it won't put the pimps out of business, because the guys who see those girls don't much care, and they aren't reading this forum or researching reviews anyway.

Putting gorilla pimps out of business is a job for LE. For a variety of reasons they can't get that job done, but that's a whole other discussion.

If my 2 cents means anything at all..
If there is any way I can help to fulfill this scenario

Please let me know

Thank you so very much Santa

Teddi

after all, you just said 20% are non-pimped. that still leaves a lot of ladies!!!

rather than rant about it here, why not just focus your time on seeing these woman who in my experience provide a better quality time anyways?

my 2 cents (with all the idle time i have now as i wait for ski season)

a text message that reads something like,

"WUS GUD MA (usually through an MMS message with a pic of their
thug-mug attached)? U Wanna 2 make sum big $$ wit a REAL MAN?"

IGNORED.

Or the ones who actually have the balls to CALL me - to which I quip,

"Please explain ALL the highlights and advantages to a masseuse/provider like myself, my business AND my family for giving HALF my income to a parasite like you?

I'm waiting....."

CLICK.

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo