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FableGrey
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23-Aug-10, 12:02 PM (PST)
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"Blackmail"
 
. Ok, with some of the new people in the forums, I notice a lot of really petty and useless and disturbingly mean things being brought up about providers(especially new, very young ones)and taken out of context by the offended. It is not ok to list a provider on neighborhood watch because she refuses to "give" time to someone who has found a reason to blackmail her. Use the watch forums for the people who lie cheat and steal, not for revenge. Sick

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bianca_baby
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23-Aug-10, 12:20 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #0
 
  

Get naked~ ...I have a plan.

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Mrgetsome24 Mrgetsome24 rating
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2. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #1
 
   Yeah there does seem to be alot of that shit going on.

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Frank12 Frank12 rating
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3. "Blackmailers? Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #0
 
Might as well let everyone know of those who think they're better than us. It's more fun when people share!


http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/general/44321.html#13

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Hoss_Cartwright Hoss_Cartwright rating
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23-Aug-10, 04:07 PM (PST)
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4. "Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #3
 
LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 04:08 PM (PST)
 
Before you read this: Yes I know... This was another example of a time that I should have shut my mouth

Frank…
Not a slight to your post as I just read it and feel the same way, but Mrs. Grey is not speaking to him in which you post. It is me! Against the suggestions of others, I will out myself.

While sitting in the lap of luxury at "Me Casa" flipping between the classifieds and chat I notice “You have a new message from FableGrey” As I have not had the chance to meet…Hhhhhmmmmmm what’s this? I think.

Gleefully go to my in-box to discover: Paraphrased to protect the innocent!

I just read your post in neighborhoood watch on barbi, are you really that much of a pig? You ask her for free service or youll turn her in? WTF DUDE?

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A shiver ran up my spine, so I call and left a message and frantically search out the post in which she referenced. even enlisting another search-a-holic to help. Oh, wait she did not reference a thread? Oh, Bambi should be easy to find, right?

All this build-up and I finally find what she is so upset about…
http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID12/7011.html

Hoss

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PostNasalDrip
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23-Aug-10, 04:28 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #4
 
   LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 04:35 PM (PST)
 
Fable,


From what I gather.
The girl is using fake pics.
Hoss did a toftt.
She is not the girl in the pics, he finds out.
He may have asked for a discounted/free session because of the BS.
(he states that she offered an extra free HH).
She knows you, or at least inboxed you her version of the encounter.
That she was black mailed by Hoss.
Then you post here that it does not belong in NW.

Does that sound like a reasonable facsimile of what might have happened?


If that is close, then that is exactly the type of information which belongs in NW. Her offense preceded any perceived offense on Hoss's part. Bait and switch is fraud, technically a theft.


Let me give a comparison example...
If she were running a Automobile shop, advertised a service or product, which was not delivered, you would expect the customer to state, "I am going to report you to the Better Business Bureau, or the State Licensing Board". And doing so would never ever be considered blackmail.

If she, as the owner of the Automobile shop decided to make good on the deal, to placate the customer; one would never contemplate that the customer did anything wrong by not filing such a report.

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OldSchoolJenna1999
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23-Aug-10, 04:34 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
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Girl its every where not just here. I've noticed and its really bad. People have too much time on their hands and the job loss has made this problem explode. People are mean and bitter. They are broke. Broke=angry=problems. Happy people are the biggest targets.No miserable person wants to see anyone better off than them, and people act on that alone. Most of them dont even realize what the hell their doing!

But who can you blame? Society, start with the media, news is bad (most of the time) Drama. Other peoples Drama makes people feel better about their own life. Drama reality shows.

Faster! Speed! Hurry! Hurry! Download faster, graduate faster, cook faster, go go go fast easy steps for everything.

Where is everyone going so fast? Our kids are being raised in this.

Rushing is stressful, when it doesnt pan out, the majority of us might get angry. Especially when you buy something that supposed to go fast and it doesnt deliver, not only are most of us broke these days but now we're broke and bought something that doesnt work and then your probably more pissed so you log on to normal routine site but your in a bad mood this time and post subconsciously a negative post.

Im not saying this is every ones case but its way too easy to become these people. I take note and try to make sure that I dont do what I dont like. But hey we're only human.

We cant change other people but we can change our selves.


"Osj, the lolly to your pop!"

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lch1965
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23-Aug-10, 05:51 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #6
 
Well said Jenna.

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FableGrey
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23-Aug-10, 06:06 PM (PST)
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10. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #6
 
OSJ!?! How Stinking Cool, I have great respect for you, thank you for taking the time to speak your opinion.

I wanted to point this out because I saw a lot of girls getting slammed for one stupid thing or another by some no name turd who wants to teach someone a lesson. You and I both know in the biz your gut is a huge tool for determining who to see and who not too, sometimes the gut is wrong, but we remain safe. Any one thing can go wrong in a conversation or text or email, and that one thing can make a girl have doubts that clear her dance card for days. I have almost 2 years, I still hesitate, back out, reschedule if I get the "feeling". We have moments to decide if the guy is going to kill us and that about it. We have to make decisions with minimal facts and the wrong move will change our lives forever.

I am 100% sure some deserve the negative attention but I have seen some more passive girls with really easy tempers and no real voice take this and suffer, lose business and are exposed to the lower level of this biz. I don’t have kids myself, but hate the thought of this happening makes the parent in me shoot up and take offence.

Besides who wants to pork a whiny ass who has nothing better to do with his time than research new providers to find problems with their advertisement to get a discounted deal. Smart men go the other way, do they not? Cheap men choose to bully.

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PostNasalDrip
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23-Aug-10, 06:25 PM (PST)
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11. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #10
 
   If this is about the Hoss NW report.
Which I believe it is.

Then "perhaps the lady doth protests to much."

It sounds like you have a vested interest in this provider in question.
You seem to know a lot more 'facts' about this encounter than a competing provider would have.

It kind of sounds like this is your girl, and you are her pimp.
And crying and whining here about her bad review, and her being outed for bait and switch fake pics.

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23-Aug-10, 09:09 PM (PST)
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16. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #11
 
Do you have any proof, PostNasalDrip? You've got a pretty big sack accusing Fable of being a pimp. You've been around for six months nut sack. Check in with me before you post again noob.

You don't know shit from shit. Run along.

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

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PostNasalDrip
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23-Aug-10, 09:17 PM (PST)
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18. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 09:37 PM (PST)
 
I know more than you think I do, armpit.


ps, I will never check in with you, armpit.
And don't have to.

pss, and since you are so preoccupied with my nut sack, how about you lick the sweat from it, while you are at it. Fable fanboi lapdog.

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Pitt Pitt rating
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23-Aug-10, 09:43 PM (PST)
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20. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #18
 
I'm fairly certain that I'm more more capable of obtaining information that's accurate, Pumpire. You on the other hand post information based upon your hatred for those that disagree with you.


Once again noob, check with me first. Your posts are subject to deletion by the alliance. I own you.

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

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PostNasalDrip
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23-Aug-10, 09:50 PM (PST)
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21. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 10:13 PM (PST)
 
First you call me Plumpire.

Then you call me noob.

If you are a mod, then delete my posts.
Not the first time that's happened.

My subjective opinions and posts are reasonable.
There are three people who can delete posts in this forum. Highstepper, Ponyplayer, and Red. Are you really one of those people?

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23-Aug-10, 10:24 PM (PST)
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23. "RE: Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #21
 
I'm not one of those people. But how do I know that you are Pumpire?

Figure that one out and let me know.

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

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FableGrey
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23-Aug-10, 05:49 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Blackmailers? Out 'em. Share and enjoy!"
In response to message #3
 
This post, thank you by the way, has nothing to do with anything I wrote, FYI. Thank You for your input and support

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FreddyP4 FreddyP4 rating
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23-Aug-10, 05:51 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: Blackmail"
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   LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 06:01 PM (PST)
 
OK. I read your post and I read Hoss's response - twice. Then I went to the "offending" post in NW. After all this reading I have concluded that Hoss calls the girl in question, inquires as to whether or not her pics are real, and gets a response that they are. He then asks her that if he makes an appointment and spends his time and gas to get to her location only to find out that she is NOT the girl pictured as she claims would she give him an additional HH as compensation for LYING to him. She said, "No." and hung up on him. He therefore concluded, perhaps wrongly but most likely correctly, that she is using FAKE PICS and posted this in NW.

To the best of my knowledge Hoss has never been caught in any lies so I take him at his word.

I don't see this as "blackmail." I view it more as a request to be compensated for spending your time and gas to see a provider who has engaged in false advertising, lying to a prospective client, and thus probably wasting his time and gas if she is not the girl in the pics. Also there are a few providers that advertise that if she is not the girl in the pics it's free. So there is precedence for his request for the additional HH if she is not the girl in the pics.

Finally, as far as we know, Hoss never told the girl that if she didn't spot him the HH for LYING and posting FAKE PICS he would post her ad in NW. That could be construed as blackmail.

In the final analysis it appears that the girl has been outed for using FAKE PICS. There is a lot of that these days and we hobbyists don't like it.

Another ad using the same phone number but different name and different pics.
http://sf.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andhearts-_-specals_-2-grl-sess0ns_-_specals_-andhearts-22/5809711

BTW - She seems to have disappeared. Over a week since her last ad. Either her phone is ringing off the hook and she doesn't need to advertise or she has moved on.

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12. "Spending Your Time and Gas"
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   Spending Your Time and Gas?
Let's just face the facts: Providers don't give a shit.
You could of driven cross country...this means absolutely NOTHING to them.

But Gawd forbid you post about what happened!!!!!!!!!

RLJ


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FableGrey
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23-Aug-10, 08:25 PM (PST)
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13. "RE: Spending Your Time and Gas"
In response to message #12
 
LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 08:26 PM (PST)
 
Well, maybe that is a reflection on you. Never generalize, makes you look like an ass

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Pitt Pitt rating
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23-Aug-10, 09:00 PM (PST)
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14. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #8
 
You got lost somewhere in the middle FreddyP4.

Hoss quote from his NW post:

"I got there to find out different would she spot me another HH for my "trouble" she said no and hung up....

"I got there" would indicate that he met the provider face to face.

"to find out different" = photographs are not accurate he has first hand knowledge of this from the face to face.

Got it yet?

"would she spot me another HH" he's asking for a little time extension because the photographs aren't the person that he met when he "got there" and the face to face occurred.

Follow along, almost finished.

If he was face to face and decided to negotiate, how does she "hang up"?

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

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togaparty togaparty rating
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23-Aug-10, 09:03 PM (PST)
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15. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #14
 
   I wondered the same thing.

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PostNasalDrip
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23-Aug-10, 09:11 PM (PST)
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17. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #14
 
   LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 09:16 PM (PST)
 
Hoss is a pioneer.

He goes out of his way to find new talent to find out if they are real or not real. And posts his experiences, when the rest of us wait.

Doing so, he undergoes a much larger risk than those who only see well reviewed providers.

He, and other like him, are doing the community a service. And deserves some leniency because of his increased risk.

On the other hand, Fable aka Willow4Whatever, has had drama follow her from her beginning, or instigated by her from her very start here on RB. And continuing that drama in Katrina's recent thread, and this one.

And her posts sound more like that of a pimp, protecting her investment. More than an alert to an erring hobbyist.


I would trust Katrina's or Hoss's veracity over FableGrey's/Willow4Whatever's any minute of any day.

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Taurus5
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23-Aug-10, 09:39 PM (PST)
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19. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #14
 
   Hoss wrote, "another...really? say its not so! Called her up and asked about the multiple ads and multiple pictures. Stated the barbie photo's are her after a short pause. asked if they are and I got there to find out different would she spot me another HH for my "trouble" she said no and hung up.... YMMV greatly!
P.S. No hits on Tineye..."

You misquoted the quote. Hoss basically asked her if he went there and she wasn't the girl in the pics, would she spot him an add for his troubles. Go back and read it again and you'll see what he actually wrote.
It might be a big jump to conclusion on Hoss' part, but that's all I can gather.

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togaparty togaparty rating
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23-Aug-10, 10:19 PM (PST)
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22. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #19
 
   You're probably right, but his ramble is too easily misleading. Hoss is a real good guy, but he needs to slow down and phrase his statements more carefully, and then read it over before he posts. For example, he wrote "Bambi" instead of "Barbi," among other misleading statements where he shortened his sentences and left out "I," or "she" which would have made his meaning clear. He is not the only one, however -- many who post here with the intention of passing on good information get too hurried and wind up misleading many readers.

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23-Aug-10, 10:48 PM (PST)
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26. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #19
 
"You misquoted the quote." I get what you are saying and I have to admit that the post is a little cryptic and I could be wrong.

My apologies to Hoss if I'm wrong. You make an assumption that posts in NW are real life experiences and not fumble fuck idiocy on the phone.

He's new, no offense Hoss, but you are. Taurus5 made a good point and it looks like you were just doing some pre-appointment homework???? That's not "blackmail".

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

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Blonde_Alter_Ego
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23-Aug-10, 10:37 PM (PST)
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24. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #0
 
And you feel blackmailed.

Because.

Shit happens.

NOT because you put yourself in a position to be blackmailed....

oh HELL no...

"Renew yourself completely each day"


http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/User_files2/a3m3d9nzxyvvy639.jpg

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Blonde_Alter_Ego
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25. "RE: Blackmail"
In response to message #24
 
LAST EDITED ON 23-Aug-10 AT 11:07 PM (PST)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9D-kUEp03c

"Renew yourself completely each day"

stop looking at my....boobs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGkRtr3Yxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgocyn8Jw-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTgLQgpwRvQ

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