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"Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
 
   She looks very tempting, and the price is right. However, she looks vaguely familiar. Has she been working under a different handle?

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:':':..Certified CMT New-Bee +Plus+ RBGFE..:':':
By : KelseyKissinger on Nov. 27 2011, 6:07 pm
City : San Mateo
Availability : Call For Availability
Name : KelseyKissinger
Phone : 925-222-5282
RB inbox : KelseyKissinger
Ethnicity : Caucasian
Age : 21-24
Eye Color : Green
Hair Color : Light Brown
Build : Slim/Slender
Height : 5ft2 - 5ft4
Bust : 36
Cup : B
Rate $/hr : 250
Incall : Peninsula
Screening : Sometimes
Hi Guys, I'm Kelsey Kissinger.
I am here to make your day or night more enjoyable, relaxing and totally Unforgettable..
I love what I do and simply adore the company of successful, passionate gentlemen who are not afraid to live life to the fullest.
I guarantee our time together will be unrushed and very memorable. I promise to make sure you are completely satisfied.
Good hygiene is very important to me. I will make sure that I am always freshly showered and expect the same in return.
Services:
RBGFE
Facials/CIM
Trips to greec e (+75Hh 50+Fhr)
Donations are non-negotiable and will not be discussed over the phone and/or in person.
15 min - 100
30 min - 150
60 min - 250
Temporary number 925-222-5282
I look forward to hearing from you.
~ Kay ~

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finkelstein
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1. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Somebody with intel, please share with Us.

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p_manhere
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2. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   I called the number and some dude picked up. I said I had the wrong number & hung up. As a general rule, I am leery of ads that specifically state services unless they are VIPs and have the reviews to substantiate the services.

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p_manhere
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3. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Same girl, same ad shows up in Sac section but city is listed as Bay Area. New number with a 916 area code. Shady...

http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=308757

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4. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Why shady? Her ad used to state the 925 number was temporary. Go easy with the accusations, you can easily ruin a girls rep and business with unfounded claims. I think she looks hot and everything seems legit, IMHO.

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5. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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I can agree, it looks legit, If she was in south or east bay, I'd be over there for sure. I wish she would have an email address, for some reason I've never had a good experience doing the cold call and going that day..

Are you going to put a little Capn' in her anytime soon?

~~A gentleman never facials and tells~~

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6. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   I stand corrected, O Captain my Captain! ;)

If anyone TOFTT, please provide intel.

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7. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Nov-11 AT 02:22 PM (PST)
 
A further correction/update. I spoke with Kelsey and she is delightful! Sounded amazing. So much so that I've scheduled to see her soon. She is a good friend of Erin Livingston who is a VIP and RB legend: http://classifieds.myredbook.com/Erin_Livingston2010

It appears that they travel to the bay area together. I didn't inquire about doubles but that's not my thing. She does not discuss details on the phone (smart) but she did say she was full RBGFE. I'll report back after seeing her!

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finkelstein
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8. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   I think she was on cam on RB chat room with Erin. If she is running along with Erin, She must be pimped.I just found out Erin is.

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9. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Who cares? Erin's service is rock solid.

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10. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   That's so yesterday's news.

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11. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Lets not lose focus here. Kelsey looks pretty damn hot. Pman any word on her yet?

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12. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Mz. Livingston should be boycotted at the prices she is charging now... I saw her at start up for $200 and it was good, but not $400 style. There is plenty of comp if u do ur homework at a much better price...

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13. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Sorry gents, I'm going to out of town for work the day I scheduled with her. I spoke with her today and we've rescheduled for next week. BTW, she's going to be in San Jose next week...

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14. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-Dec-11 AT 07:56 AM (PST)
 
Reaaallly hate to be so fucking suspicious here, my 27-post wonder, but you sure seem to have a very high opinion of girls that you've never seen before...and a lot of inside info too.

Given that Erin and Jazzy Jazell are part of a very infamous pimp's crew, who posts under a whole cheer-leading team of fake and shill handles (e.g., Carrot Top, Lakers_Fan, Y'all_Makes_Us_Legends, Y'all_So_Ungrateful, Enough_Alreadya), the possibility that YOU, sir, are not only a shill, but also yet another of this thoroughly despicable pimp's fake handles occurs to me as being a real possibility.

Again, I just hate to be so darned untrusting, but dealing with this crew over time has shown to one and all here that you just can't be TOO suspicious. Why not take this opportunity to establish your hobbying credentials here and prove my suspicions wrong. You hype these two girls to the stars without having ever seen them - even going so far as to provide a link to Erin's ads and reviews - then punt on actually sessioning with either one because you've suddenly got to go out of town on business...hmm,hmmm. Let us know when you get back in town, K?

What difference does it make if a particular girl is pimped or not? Well, let me run it down for you as succinctly as I possibly can: Generally speaking, pimped pussy provides pitifully poor performance. And , unfortunately, these days that poor service can also include all manner of ROB scams, up to and including armed robbery.

However, that's not ALWAYS true and, based on Carrot Top's pimped girls' (Erin_Livingstone and Jazzy Jazzelle) great reviews, they seem to be an exception to the above-stated rule. So, in this particular case, if you don't think ALL pimped meat should be boycotted, as I do, then why should you care? The additional reason to care is that pimped pussy is over-priced pussy because there's a middle man skimming the profits in order to fund his lazy ass life-style. Erin and Jazzy started out as $200 hr. pimped hoes, but under Carrot Top's greedy thumb they're now asking $400 per for the same services...in this economy, when equally good-looking girls are charging less than half that, and all to support pimpy's coke habit? OH HELLLL NO!

By all means, do what you like, but as for me, there's nothing I hate worse than to see my hard-earned cash go to some cheese-dick, two-strike loser who won't work for an honest living...and that's who Carrot Top/Y'all is, in aces.

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15. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Totally agree.
Plus a pimp who makes his newbie girl take CIM and facials for 100 a pop doesn't give a shit about her.
20 years of ho fuckin I still don't get the fkn pimp thing.
Why sell pussy and ass and give to $ to some dickwad jerkoff mofo?

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16. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Because often the total price for services can be lower. What would you rather do, pay $100 for CIM and facials, and have $20 go to the girl and $80 to the pimp, or $200 for the same and have it all go to the girl? I'd rather save my money.

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17. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Oh my friend there is no $20 going to the girl.
She gets shit clothes, fast food, cheap weed and a pack of Newports and that's that.
In pimp world you loose your rep if you're paying your bitches.
Outta pocket pimp ain't a pimp.

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22. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   If y'all haven't read it yet check out Iceberg Slim's book Pimp: The Story of My Life. It will give you a great inside look at the mind of a pimp at work.

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dineratthewhy
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23. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Sounds like a must read for the hobbyists.

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18. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-Dec-11 AT 08:19 PM (PST)
 
Well sir, perhaps you've heard of the acclaimed film, Sophie's Choice, with Meryl Streep in the female lead. In it, Sophie was presented with an impossible decision whereby she could save one, but not both, of her children from those horrible na zi's that LMN is so fond of.

What you've posed to the audience here is not so much a Sophie's Choice type situation, but more of a Doofy's Choice one.

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19. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Ridem & Del

just curious... most of the gals i see seem to be pretty sharp, decent girls, yet lots of time u know something is going on behind the scenes... especially some chick like erin livingstone... what hold does the management have over them??? psychological for sure, physical? just hard to imagine being on the real world side of things...

enlighten me if u can, i'm sure every situation is a little different, but a lot of these providers don't seem that weak... and they could certainly do better on their own... bottom line is, what service does the pimp actually provide for them in today's world???

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20. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   It varies. Threats. beatings. Intimidation. But what I think is most prevelant
Is the new sub culture of pimps n hos.
It's in to be someboy's ho.
Likes of Erin n Jazelle feel proud handing over a wad of cash to their pimp.
In their mind their pimp is a rock star.
They sell pussy hand him the cash and then are in awe when he rolls up in his new b7.

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21. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Well, in my experience there's a very wide range of motivations and reasons for girls to hook up with a middleman business partner (aka pimp).

What does seem to be very common, though, is that it is almost always very young girls (often times TOO young girls) who are the ones most likely to choose pimped meat status over being an indy. In fact, it seems to be a standard MO for pimps like Carrot Top/Lakers_fan/Enough_Alreadya/AGL to recruit young, down-on-their-luck girls, such as Jazzy, Erin and now, it seems, Kelsey, to their stables.

What you don't see very often are older, experienced providers who have always been indy who, all of a sudden, decide that it's a wise business move to choose up with some cheese-dick pimp or another. It seems that gullibility and poor judgement are, in large part, a function of age. It's the same thing with tobacco use: hook'em early or miss your chance.

Additionally, many of these young girls not only come from financially impoverished backgrounds, but from emotionally impoverished ones as well, where they've been subjected to abuse, neglect and abandonment. A childhood such as that leaves them vulnerable to the manipulations of pimps who seem to have developed a very fine sense of intuition with respect to whom might be most amenable to their overtures and attention, based on these girls' neediness. Once inside their heads and hearts, it's just not that hard for pimps to gradually take over the lives of these young girls and then proceed on to the usual course of abuse, coercion and cynical manipulation that most of us here find so reprehensible.

Personally, I don't know a single girl who is now indy or retired that started out in the biz as pimped meat who thinks that that was a wise move or who materially benefited over the long term by having such a business association.

In this day and age, any girl with a smart phone (or just reliable access to one), a free RB membership and bus fare can be in business for herself. Pimps traditionally provided physical protection for their girls, front money for pro pics and decent clothes, transportation, food, a black book of eager customers, etc. In exchange, his girls do ALL the work, take most of the risk (of arrest, disease, etc.) and turn over ALL their earnings to "daddy".

Sound like a fucked deal to you? You fuckin' A it is!

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24. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
In response to message #14
 
   delsnortto -

I have no need to prove myself to you. And if me saying that a girl sounded nice on the phone and conveyed the facts of a phone conversation in this forum,fits your definition of "shilling", then either you don't know what a shill is or you have other issues going on causing you to lash out with ad hominem attacks.

Regardless, I'd like to thank you all for educating me to the fact that Erin and "her crew" are pimped out girls. I will not see Kelsey next week and rather save my $$$.

For the record, I have 27 posts because I am a lurker on the boards and don't write reviews.

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25. "RE: Kelsey Kissinger 925-222-5282"
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   Well put sir.

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