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stook2005
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"'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
 
   Here's a silly newbie question. Why is there an "Art" in "Art of FBSM"? Why not "Art of Escort?"


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1. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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>>Here's a silly newbie question. Why is there an "Art" in "Art of FBSM"?

Well, when you are on your back we tend to break out the sharpies and go to town doodling on your back, ass, and balls.

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2. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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Good one! BD!....Let's not forget the feet!

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5. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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Even the unshaved ones?

Be the change
you wish to see

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Arthur Arthur rating
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3. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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   Could it have something to do with a need for some providers and some of the guys who love them to see themselves as different from escorts?

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that many fbsm providers are cmts, which requires training, thus lending itself to being seen as an art.

Arthur

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4. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 31-Aug-10 AT 01:52 PM (PST)
 
bd u r irrepresible and right on.

i would say, reflects less scripted more varied nature of FBSM. How the gal revs u up, winds you down never same among gals often even same gal. Listens to yr body. Tunes session.

is an art.

Best - BB

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6. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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It's all part of the lie, er "myth", that FBSM workers are somehow more "flowerful" than other sex workers and what they do with their hands is more "artistic" than what other sex workers do with their mouths or vaginas.

"[catlover is]...honest, and an asset to RB."
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summerrayne summerrayne rating
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12. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 01-Sep-10 AT 01:19 PM (PST)
 
Mmmm. OK.

Any girl (heck - you don't even have to BE a "girl") to be an "escort."

Lie on a hotel bed or your own bed, chat a bit, cover everything, bob on the knob a bit, don't kiss (God forbid), spread 'em - now move 'em in and move 'em out!

Chip chop chip.

Some escorts are very classy, well-skilled companions and can even turn into friends; there are all different skill levels across the board.

However, you are remiss in equating FBSM girls with the common SW.

Not to put those providers down (they work hard too) - but you rag on us alot and it's simply not warranted.

If all you want is an escort - go over to their boards and make appointments with THEM.

Stop harranguing FBSM/CMT girls to be something that doesn't conform to your desires.

There are plenty of RB girls elsewhere on this site that will do what you want.

However, FS and/or RBGFE girls that are well-reviewed and look like stunning fashion models might be out of your price-range.

Not to be mean - but is that why you're always complaining?

To practice the healing art of therapeutic massage and serious body work, you actually have to spend thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours in school and meet a series of complicated requirements.

http://www.massage-exam.com/california-massage.php

And this is only what is required for the STATE level.

For those of us pursuing national certifications, it is much, much more.

I know some fellas get ticked off because we charge as much as escorts and (for the most part) while not full service - delight and encourage emotional/spiritual/intellectual/phsycial connections.

I know I am generalizing, but if you are looking for a beautiful, safe, well-reviewed FBSM provider to give you a real CMT-level/sensual massage in her professional, well-appointed massage studio, cover you with kisses, go down on you and take it in the (insert desired orafice here) repeatedly w/MSOG for $160 an hour or less?...

Come on now.


It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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7. "Has to do with idea that a good FBSM can be healing"
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   LAST EDITED ON 31-Aug-10 AT 08:22 PM (PST)
 
The combo of body work, tender touch, intuitive emotional support, and sensual release can be a healing experience. A lot of this can be part of a good escort session too. But I have seen some FBSM guys transformed into more confident and relaxed people. Facilitating that could be considered by some a healing or transformative art.

Or it can be considered a massage and handjob for money.

Personally IMHO its something between but something that you get out of, what you are open to.

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9. "RE: Has to do with idea that a good FBSM can be healing"
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Abby, I think you described the Art of FBSM beautifully. It is being creative. It also takes a person to be centered and an open mind to step into a realm that will allow for healing to take place. And that's putting it very simply.

As a giver and with someone very open my experience can be orgasmic and I don't mean orgasm through genital stimulation. Orgasmic from a energy/spiritual stand point which is much more satisfying. That may sound woo woo, but believe me it's not..lol

Yes, for many its massage and a HJ and that's okay, but it can be so much more.

If you haven't seen the documentary the "Sacred Prostitute" by Kennith Stubbs I highly recommend it.Stubbs being a pioneer of the sensual/sexual massage movement.

There is also "Reclaiming Eros" by Suzanne Blackburn and Margaret Wade

One more "Women of the Light" By Stubbs

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22. "RE: Has to do with idea that a good FBSM can be healing"
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Interesting conversation, I feel moved to jump in and agree with Abby and Deliese and the others who spoke of the often intuitive, creative, healing aspects of FBSM.

I'd also say that, while it's not my personal path, there certainly can be FS ladies who bring presence, intuition, creativity, and healing to what they do.

We're all working in the realms of pleasure, and when respect is present there is healing there, on some level ... As the book "Women of the Light" shows, there are many different, valid ways of walking a path of the erotic arts.


"Desire is the beginning of all
creation..."

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8. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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It has to do with the creativity and imagination each provider posesses and how she uses that creativity and imagination during a session to produce a unique experience for you.

Creative people (artists) are always searching and willing to try different things in pursuit of perfection.

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10. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 01-Sep-10 AT 07:55 AM (PST)
 
nevermind, i'm just cracking myself up..

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11. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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Well said, Mr Owl!

Astrid Star, CMT
FBSM

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stook2005
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13. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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   This could be considered an art form.

http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/

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14. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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You're right, stook2005!

Hilarious!

More people should follows these fellas!

So funny, intellegent and informational!

http://forum.myredbook.com/cgi-bin/alink.pl?ab=http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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19. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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>It has to do with the creativity and imagination each
>provider posesses and how she uses that creativity and
>imagination during a session to produce a unique experience
>for you.
>
>Creative people (artists) are always searching and willing
>to try different things in pursuit of perfection.

SO! True. I love the sensual energy exchange.
Cat

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15. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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I think it's called art of FBSM because it's an art not to screw the hottie on the table providing your not "PROVIDING"

Have A Decadent Dianne Day

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16. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 04:52 PM (PST)
 
The "art" is weeding through the guys that just want FS/RBGFE - yet want to pay FBSM rates - but try to get "everything under the sun" is just one of the things that will wear a provider out in this business if she doesn't go about correctly.

Desperation is an incredible master - and it will drive you to the deepest depths of incomprehensible demoralization.

Don't fall into "the trap."

Every FBSM/CMT provider has her own unique way of "sharing the love" with the friends that she makes in this world.

Personally?

I am not spending thousands of dollars in school, national, city, and state licensing to just bend over my table and get drilled and @ss-raped by untold strangers day in and day out.

I never offered that kind of stuff - but had clients that have showed up for THERAPEUTIC massage - $60 bucks an HOUR - and try to get aggressive.

They get kindly, but firmly handed their money back and get shown the door.

As far as what I currently do -

I love kissing, hugging, holding, talking - and the true CONNECTION that occurs between two human beings.

However, I didn't go through all of these, pay all of these thousands of dollars for school so I could learn how to better help my clientele through their phyisical issues, etc.

To all RB providers - you should always be focused on great customer service, making friends, and running your business -

NOT having your business running YOU.

DD - you have a great business and a lot of great friends; you are obviously doing something right.

To all of my friends here:

Live life, be safe, enjoy, and have FUN!

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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17. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 11:37 PM (PST)
 
Thank you so much. I do both kinds of massages. If I book a therapuetic I never upsell, it's just strange for me. My twin is HHP & State wide certified.

Have A Decadent Dianne Day

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18. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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20. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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Thank you summerrayne!!! Massage school is no joke the classes the money and your time.. lots of guys don't get it and don't want to RESPECT it.


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21. "RE: 'Art' in 'Art of FBSM'"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-Sep-10 AT 01:58 PM (PST)
 
Hee! Very cute! Is he your mentor? Art himself!

Ok to answer, I have been both escort and fbsm artist. There is an art to fbsm as it requires a bit more imagination and creativity, in my experience. It is constantly growing and changing practice - truly dynamic. And since I got interested in introducing a bit of kink and Tantra to some of my well-known folks, it keeps getting more interesting, even though I am providing much less of it, as I limit my sensual sessions to about one or two per week, and more focused on my straight thera practice.I like dabbling in it to keep a fresh perspective on all things sensual as they relate to our whole expression of wellness and well-being.

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