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insight
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"The Miracle of FBSM"
 
   I have noticed a few posts here and in other forums lately wanting to know more about FBSM or wanting to know why people think FBSM is so great if in doesn't involve FS. Some of the replies to these inquires have indicated what most folks on this board know well, which is, that FBSM is so much more erotic and intimate than the other 'services', the fact that the client and provider don't engage in explicit sex goes nearly unnoticed in a good FBSM session. To be sure, a good FBSM session is highly sexual and erotic, just without the intercourse.

There are a number of reasons that FBSM is so highly rated. First and foremost are the providers themselves. The personal qualities and life styles of the FBSM providers reflect a great deal of compassion, intelligence, human interest, and a commitment to caring. Through their services they communicate that they enjoy working with their clients as much as we enjoy them. In other words, they like their jobs and it shows. This is infinitely more satisfying than being with a provider that doesn't like what she is doing, or who is in the business because of lifestyle or substance abuse issues. For these providers, it too shows in their work, through lack of attention, rushing, poor interactions, loss of intimacy, emotional instability, inability to relax or focus in the moment. The excellent personal qualities of the FBSM providers alone makes FBSM the 'Grand Dame" of the services.

Then there is the massage itself, which many have described as unrushed, nurturing, intimate, caring, healthy, relaxing, erotic, unashamed, deeply open and honest, and with no great expectations from either participant other than to relax and to be relaxed. It is this marvelous lack of expectation that is so terrific about FBSM. So often, the expectations for a particular experience mess up the actual experience, causing frustration and dissatisfaction that leaves us wanting something more--FBSM doesn't do that.

But wait, there's more. Other advantages are that we rarely see posts about FBSM providers not showing up or certainly not with the frequency of that for SWs, escorts, etc., and at any rate, no-shows are not considered to "come with the territory" in FBSM as in the other areas. You will also find that FBSM providers are much easier to contact (unless they are very busy) and are very responsible about their contacts. Also, we almost never hear the typical ROB stories such as: "I paid the money, got a 10 min. half-assed massage, and then she told me to leave or she would call her boyfriend." You also don't get hit up for tips or for more money after the session is started. Attempts to 'upgrade' the service or to renegotiate for more money, are a complete turnoff and you don't see it in FBSM. I think many guys would agree with me that, with FBSM providers, you simply don't get that feeling of being manipulated or pressured about the money. It's been my experience that the business end of FBSM is typically very, very low key.

Many FBSM provider appear more stable in their living situations. It seems that FBSM providers typically have their own apartments or homes and keep the same phone number and contact info for a long time. Even better is that they are emotionally stable and emotionally available and open to their clients. Most of the time you can carry on a serious or educated conversation with them and they will surprise you with extraordinary life experiences of true value. Or they will talk about school, their own life or friends, giggle, laugh at you, etc. In essence, in FBSM you get more of the whole person and that, in turn, makes me feel like a more whole person. So, when the focus of the session is FS only, a lot of what I just described is left out. This is way I think FBSM is so terrific.

"Once our hearts are open, all existence appears naturally beautiful and harmonious." Tarthang Tulku

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midagegent
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1. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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Great post. I generally agree with you, but you need to separate those
things that are fundamental to FBSM and those that are the result of the very high caliber ladies RB FBSM clients see. You can have a bad FBSM experience. The nature of FBSM with its opportunity for connection at all levels, demands a lot from the practitioners. In order to have a blowaway session , they need to connect on a personal basis, they need to massage you in an effective and pleasent for you way, they need to reach you on an erotic level and know how climax you at right time. This all is a lot more demanding than a perfuctory rubbing of back and member. The best ladies are strong masseuses, psychologists, actresses, erotic artists, and interesting people. We are lucky they are here.

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jamie_donier
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2. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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   Oh insight! You are so eloquent. Thanks you for posting.
Jamie

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3. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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   For me, FBSM is often preferable to FS for many of the reasons you stated. I would add these:

If you want a good therapeutic massage as well as sensuality, you usually can't get that from a FS provider. Sometimes I really need the nurturing and the healing of the therapeutic part. My body gets very tense stting too many hours at this damned computer.

I agree that the FBSM women I've met are generally (but not always) nicer people than the FS gals. It's a very big deal for a woman to be fucked by lots of men she has no feelings for. That's very likely to harden her heart.

Also (and I'll probably get flamed for this) most of us hobbyists are either too lazy or too emotionally wounded or too shy or too inept to seduce and have good sex with women we don't have to directly pay for that (I know, we pay anyhow indirectly through gifts etc.). Let me temporarily call those women "amateurs."

When I get FBSM, the woman seems more like an amateur to me. It reminds me of the time when I was young and I could engage in heavy petting with my dates but no intercourse. An extreme example of that recently was a FBSM provider who let me finger-fuck her while she jacked me off.

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4. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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LAST EDITED ON 18-Dec-02 AT 02:46 PM (PST)
 

Insight, your post, as well as Worldly and MAG's contributions articulate part of the reason why there IS a miracle of FBSM. Without folks upon whom subtlety, sensuality and the opportunity for sweet communion are not lost, they would go unappreciated.


Queen of the Magical Forest
Where love the magician knows this little trick, whereby two people walk in different directions, yet always remain side by side.

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Monika
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13. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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And we appreciate these kind RB gents, peachgal! They give so much of themselves as well. Some of us are relatively new but the crucial buildup of momentum deepens. It acts like a particle accelerator in nuclear physics. The particles go faster and faster until they are able to split atoms. We build the energy of love and friendship until it grows powerful enough to see entirely different levels of reality.

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agboy
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5. "What a suck up!!!"
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Just kidding... nice post. I'm just beginning to learn about this miracle.

Agboy

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insight
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9. "RE: What a suck up!!!"
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   NO, your 'first-mind' was right--it's a total suck up!!! But, I also hope it replies to those folks who are curious about FBSM. And, I did take liberties because I know there are wonderful FS providers, too. But, you just can't beat a FAME!!!

"Once our hearts are open, all existence appears naturally beautiful and harmonious." Tarthang Tulku

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6. "yeah, what he said"
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I have to agree with all the wonderful points made about FBSM vs FS. I feel like its a totally different atmosphere, and one where I can put more positive energy into because of the nature of the session than I sometimes could with FS. The men have a different attitude altogether; I have yet to see anyone who came to my door wary or suspicious that I might rip him off as some men seem to approach a traditional escort session, until they feel they can let their guard down. That said, my only real limitation is that after seeing three clients in a single day, my paws hurt a little!

~Paulina~


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jimdrakemoderator
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7. "You have all done SUCH a fine job..."
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   ...of summing up the FBSM experience. Thank you!

The only thing I would add is the spiritual aspect.

On rare occasions, you connect on a level, beyond the physical, beyond the emotional...you find a safe place within each of you where you can just 'be.' After this type of experience (my term is oobe) sensations are heightened to the point of the surreal.

Everything you touch seems more intimate, the taste of food more nourishing to palate and soul, the sound of music completely fulfilling. Your vision is clear, your mind is open, relaxed and focused.

It is a rarity, not often expereinced by either in a normal FBSM experience. I first felt it a few years ago and most recently, a couple of weeks ago....surely worth seeking out again and again!

...jd

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8. "RE: You have all done SUCH a fine job..."
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   I agree.........I only wish that the 'secret' wasn't getting out.

teets

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11. "RE: You have all done SUCH a fine job..."
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"Everything you touch seems more intimate, the taste of food more nourishing to palate and soul, the sound of music completely fulfilling. Your vision is clear, your mind is open, relaxed and focused."

In my youth, we sought chemical means to the same ends! Todays youth claims that xtasy gives these effects.


In Tantric practice, they refer to "seeing the face of the godess", which is described to be very much like "On rare occasions, you connect on a level, beyond the physical, beyond the emotional <snip> sensations are heightened to the point of the surreal."

I have had such happen. I wish I could bottle it, I would be a very rich man if I could.

But one can attain this in venues other than FBSM. The participants are key, not the 'mode'.

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jorge
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10. "If I ever forget why I do this ..."
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all I'll have to do is reread insight's post. It really says it all. Thanks for "pulling it" all together. So to speak.

Warmest regards,

jorge

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Monika
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12. "Thank You"
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In reflecting on what first awakened my interest in this wonderful journey, questions came up. Was it some (inner) groping for an alternative meaning or purpose in life? Was it some deep experience of personal suffering? Was it the need to heal? Was it compassion for the pain of others? Was it desire? Was it passion? Without trying to provide a definitive answer to these questions, I think it is vital at least to know there can be a very strong sense of awareness emanating from the heart center. It is vital to keep looking to develop a discriminating wisdom. And in doing so, we understand ourselves and others.

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2wonton1eggroll
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14. "RE: Thank You"
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   Monika's point of view and style is what guys are looking for in a spiritual partner. You have reached a lofty status that no one can question. Instead of just being a fbsm provider you could try to be a counselor. It seems like talking to you may be more important than the fbsm.

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jorge
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15. "RE: Thank You"
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The only consistent regret I have is that I often wish there was more time for talking. It seems like after the first 10 minutes or so, talking becomes, oh ... difficult. Not that I'm complaining, mind you!

Warmest regards,

jorge

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17. "RE: Thank You"
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Talking to her before or after and during a session has helped me reach higher! She's helped me reach higher levels of consciousness!

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18. "RE: talking to Monika more important than the fbsm?"
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   Talking to her is indeed a special experience, since she is so bright and aware, but experiencing physical intimacy with her raises the experience to a new level. They go together: mind-body connection.

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20. "And it pays better than working at Walmart"
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16. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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   Great post Insight.

Very insightful and inspiring.

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19. "RE: The Miracle of FBSM"
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   Wow! Did I write that or did Insight write it????!!!!!! Hit it right on the head (really, no pun intended but glad that it came out -- whoops, there he goes again!).


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