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paulzz paulzz rating
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"Edge Play in the Professional World"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 24-Jul-10 AT 07:24 PM (PST)
 
"Edge Play" is usually meant to refer to activities that push people's limits. In principle this could mean something quite mild for someone who has very little tolerance or is new to the scene. However, it tends to be associated with activities with relatively higher physical (e.g. cutting, serous piercings, etc) and/or mental risk.

Edge play certainly exists in the lifestyle world. And it can be seen all too easily in the video world (see recent threads on some incredibly brutal videos).

I've also noticed that fairly edgy work is regularly demonstrated in trainings (there was a recent one, for example, on some really intense ways of using needles).

However, the "edge" level of most providers descriptions (in ads and house pages where providers describe their interests) seems to be on the relatively mild side. This is perhaps for the obvious reason that they would not bring this up with clients they do not yet know well.

My question is how many of you clients who visit with a professional dominatrix are looking for edge play, where they are really testing their limits. The obvious alternative are those who are happier with sensual domination or role play scenes safely within their limits.

I'm also happy to hear from providers on this topic.

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Mabait1 Mabait1 rating
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1. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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As a relative virgin to the Dom scene, I had a rather lenghthy session for my first time. I honestly dont know what my limits are. We men like to think we are tough. However, I have found that womaen can take much more than we can. My mistress has taken time to see my reaction to the things she does and if it appears I cant take it she backs off or changes areas. She is very mindful of not leaving marks in certain areas that would be diffult to explain to my kids. (I'm a single dad). I have found the we are still finding out just how much I can take and that is part of the process. But to put all control in someones elses hands does leave one quite vulnerable. Waiting to experience more.

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3. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   Enjoy the learning experience!

SOMF (Please! I'd really enjoy that!)

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2. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   Edgy or nothing for me. I've been playing in the bdsm realm for over 30 yrs, and now it has to bee Edgy or I am bored. By edgy in mean; knife & scalpel blood play. Needles, Electrical, Showers (gold, brown and red) Fire play, public play, branding, forced-bi.

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9. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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Ohhh smileyone,
So much of this sounds so great. I don't do brown showers, but everything else you mention sounds excellent!

Made my day to find this post on RB.

Miss Grey

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jimmy_gilmour
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4. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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sensual domination can be edge play..it depends on the sub and where the Domme can take You. More men have been driven to extremes out of passion than by a knife wielding Woman

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paulzz paulzz rating
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5. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   LAST EDITED ON 27-Jul-10 AT 07:11 AM (PST)
 
Good point. Most would say "edge play" can be at either physical or mental/emotional limits.

I'd be interested to learn more about how sensual domination becomes edge play in a professional session.

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rachelsonoma1 rachelsonoma1 rating
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11. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   I have another idea for Sensual Domination that is edge play: The Contrary Mistress. This is where Mistress does not say what she means, or does not mean what she says. Here are a few examples. Please share your own if you have some:

At session one, Mistress orders slave to give her a back massage. When she has had enough, she praises him, telling him she appreciates his efforts to serve her. At the next session, she again orders him to massage her. But when it is over, she tells him he should not have relaxed her so much. Now she is as limp as a jellyroll and cannot conduct a proper session. "What were you thinking?"

Mistress: Come over here
slave: (complies)
Mistress: What are you doing?
slave: You said come over here
Mistress: I most certainly did not. I said to get the flogger. Are you trying to get out of being whipped? you (expletive deleted). Now get that f------ flogger before I have a mind to shove it down your throat!

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jimmy_gilmour
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13. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   sorry to say this Rachel..but both of Your scenarios here sound perfectly fucked up. Sounds more like they are meant to encourage violence in a sub than any kind of sensual reaction..but I guess the topic "is" edgy not sensual isn't it?

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paulzz paulzz rating
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14. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-Aug-10 AT 08:18 AM (PST)
 
To each his (her) own.

The idea of the "contrary mistress" would work for some players really well. For others it might not. Hopefully, the Domme can figure that out in advance. After all, the idea of "edge" means working within limits, even while pushing them.

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15. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-Aug-10 AT 03:58 PM (PST)
 
Yes, I think what You are saying is that the "edge" is the edge of our emotions that rush of sexuality that We get along what may lie on the other side of that edge..for Me it is anger which may become obvious from time to time on this forum..for others it may be fear..I'm sure the possibilities are endless

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6. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   I would like to give an example where Sensual Domination becomes edge play: cuckolding.

Characters: the Domme/Cuckoldress, the cuck, and the Bull

Role play: the Cuckoldress plays the part of the cuck's wife. The Bull is a man who the Cuckoldress has today decided to take as a lover.

The Bull is treated to a lapdance while the cuck is blindfolded. The Cuckoldress throws in the face of the cuck that he will NEVER again have what the Bull is getting. The blindfold is removed. The cuck is placed in inescapable bongage for the rest of the session. The Bull dishes out verbal humiliation to the cuck. At the end of the session, the cuck is dismissed, with instructions. After that, the Bull is dismissed as well. The Cuckoldress floats away to the best night of sleep she has had in a long time, a little smile on her face.

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runner69
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7. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   I can't stand the suspence! What instructions is the Cuck given?

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jimmy_gilmour
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10. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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   Damn..You hit that right on the both heads..the big one and the one that is supposed to be doing the thinking (but never does} it must be "our" cool Sonoma county air these days..I honestly think that when a sub can't face His own insecurities with a Womans sexuality then out comes the knife {in Her hands not His}I have thought about cuckolding..but it really is some scary shit..honestly

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8. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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I actually turn away most "edgy" requests from newbies, however I will push limits with anyone who has the balls to see me while still respecting limits, of course.

"My sexual preference is all the time"

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12. "RE: Edge Play in the Professional World"
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I loved edgier scenes. Most clients can't do scenes that will leave marks or scars. And many can't deal with anything that causes really extreme pain.

Being a sadist, I always loved those who could take the physical extremes.

I would never do it with a brand new client, though. But I did have a few repeat clients...

I particularly miss one that was nicknamed Iron Ass as the first BDSM party I took him to. He informed me, "I don't need no stinkin' warm up." So I started with English cane strokes. A girl watching the scene exclaimed, "He must have an iron ass!" And that became his nickname. I saw him at Castlebar and Damion used to come in to our sessions and beat on him. He'd come early just to talk to her.

Now that guy could take a beating. I don't know how many toys I broke on him over the years.

I really miss him.

Lilith

"...and you know that she's half crazy..."

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