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"Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Honest?"
 
LAST EDITED ON 04-Jun-10 AT 10:01 AM (PST)
 
Right now these are the top girls over all on RB according to RB rankings.

Grace Other California escort
Alexia East Bay escort
Italian_Mommy Central Valley escort
Niceandnaughty Central Valley escort
Gia_amour Sacramento escort
Voluptousgirly East Bay escort
Heidi Parker San Francisco escort

Now lets look at each of these girls one at a time.

Grace - doesn't advertise on RB and appears to only be available for all nighters and weekends. She may be great but she's also for guys like Elliot Spitzer - not RB material. Also She has only 4 reviews.

Alexia - Again only 4 reviews, 2 from the same guy, none from anyone the could be considered a respectable reviewer.

Italian_Mommy - 6 reviews, but 5 of them are from one hit wonder reviewers, begging the question that perhaps her or her pimp are writing the reviews. The one review from someone who has reviewed someone else says he picked her up on the street. Nice to know that the number 3 girl on all of RB is walking the stroll in Stockton.

Niceandnaughty - 6 reviews and a couple of them are from guys that seem to have some degree of reliablility which is good, but they only span a period of 6 weeks.

Gia_amour - Lots of great reviews from lots of reliable hobbiests, and she definitely deserved her top ranking....3 months ago, which is the last time she posted an ad or received a new review.

Voluptousgirly - 4 reviews, 2 from the same guy, who has no other reviews, one other that is a one hit wonder, and one from a guy who has been around. 3 of the 4 actually look like she wrote them herself. and she hasn't gotten a new review in almost 6 months.

Heidi Parker - 4 great reviews from December '09 to March '10, 3 seem very reliable, but she doesn't have a current ad up and hasn't had an ad up for awhile.

So of the 7 top girls according to RB rankings 3 appear to be frauds, 3 may be the real deal but don't have enough reviews or a long enough track record to know for sure. 1 is the real deal but may be gone for good.

I have a few suggestions for Red to remedy the lack of credibilty in the 5 star system and to make 5 star status mean something again.

First a girl needs to have a minimum of 10 reviews from which the average scores are to be drawn in order to determine the rankings - right now it appears a girl only needs 4 - which is a ridiculously low number.

Second, two of these reviews needs to be from guys who have reviewed at least 5 other girls.

Third, I believe there is a rule in place where if a girl does not get a new review after 6 months she drops off the rankings, but can return to the rankings if a new review is posted; which is fine. I would add to that a requirement that if a girl goes more then 90 days without posting an ad she drops off the rankings, but can return once she resumes posting.

Finally, only girls that advertise on RB should be included in RB rankings.

These simple changes would give the ranking system a whole lot more credibility, and make the whole thing much more helpful to hobbiests looking for the best girls as well as give the true 5 stars the credit they deserve.

In the interest of fair disclosure, number 8 on the overall rankings right now is Jenna Thomas - my ATF, and number 9 is Adrian Sanchez, a girl I've met but have never sessioned with. But I dare anyone to tell me why any of the girls in the top 7 (well other then Gia, but as I pointed out she appears to be MIA) deserve to be ranked ahead of Jenna or Adrian. The fact that they are, only emphasizes the flaws in the ranking system.

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Shellback97 Shellback97 rating
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2. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Jun-10 AT 11:33 AM (PST)
 

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3. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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I looked at Jenna and Adrians reviews as well as a few of the other ladies that you mentioned.

The system is obviously flawed. I think you have some good ideas, maybe even place more weight on the reviews by members that have been writing reviews for more than say five years. And the system should obviously ignore the one hit wonders.

The problem is that I doubt these types of filters and calculations are built in and may not even be possible without a major upgrade.

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13. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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"The problem is that I doubt these types of filters and calculations are built in and may not even be possible without a major upgrade. "

and I doubt that you know shit about anything, Barney.

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15. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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For a 2 day old member your ability to determine what someone else on these boards knows or doesn’t know is astounding.


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17. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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Astute observation HS, not to mention the polls have shown that it takes at least four days before someone really hates me.


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16. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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I have no doubt that you like to do yourself or touch yourself.

"The love you take is equal to the love you make."
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18. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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LMAO............ Given his inability to use the same handle for more than a few days that's his only option.


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4. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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   LAST EDITED ON 06-Jun-10 AT 01:52 PM (PST)
 
I think your suggestions are sound, and would improve the validity and usefulness of the rankings. However, your suggestions will fall short of an UNDERSTANDABLE rating system, because the PRESENT criteria for determining the rankings has never been revealed.

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5. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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LAST EDITED ON 06-Jun-10 AT 05:37 PM (PST)
 
I just asked Red to adjust it today.

I have a five star Sacramento ranking in "escort" - but don't even exist in the massage category - and I have more FBSM/CMT clients due to my massage studio than anything else!

And I agree.

Four reviews - some dubious...and are able to garner a five star ranking?

A definite adjustment is in order.


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6. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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You got a good plan Shell man.

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7. "it is what it is"
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   The ratings have always been skewed, and there's no solution to fix them. They are "fictional" descriptions of illegal acts post by anonymous people in regards to the services of other anonymous people.

You have whores creating accounts to write themselves reviews, and then you have long time redbookers writing reviews for favors or friendship rather than an attempt at an honest appraisal.

Read reviews, learn the reviewers, and learn the types of exaggeration they engage in and you'll do fine. Or, just beat off into a tube sock while browsing the classified ads and save yourself some money. That's what I do.

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8. "RE: it is what it is"
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   This discussion is about the ranking system, not about ratings or reviews.

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10. "RE: it is what it is"
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LAST EDITED ON 09-Jun-10 AT 01:06 AM (PST)
 
The problems with reviews are numerous and well documented. My gripe her is about the ranking system. The way it works right now a provider, or her pimp, can write 4 fake reviews under 4 fake handles giving the girl all 10s and then the girl jumps straight to the top of the rankings. Sure, guys like me will alert that, but why should we have to? This is so obviously a major flaw in the system, how hard can it be to fix?

Alernatively, a new girl who's horny and fired up may have a run of great reviews for a couple of months and then burn out and fade away. I in fact gave stellar reviews to 2 girls last year - Shanti Karress, and Jasmin3 - that fit this catagory. These girls jumped up the rankings but have since fallen off the top since they have no new reviews. Do I retract my reviews? Hell no, these girls were great! At the same time, being hella horny and having fun being a hooker for a couple months does not mean a girl should jump to the top of the rankings just because she got 4-5 great reviews from reputable hobbiests..not if she doesn't keep it up.

There are alot of great girls on RB, some of them have been around a long time and they have earned their rep in Spades. They have dozens, if not 100s of great reviews...spanning years. The ranking system should reflect that.

But instead, pimped out hos and flashes in the pan, get to jump ahead of these RB gems, thus disrespecting the girls that make RB great, and misleading the hobbiests, whose VIP memberships keep RB running, as to who the best girls out there truly are.


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9. "RE: it is what it is"
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LAST EDITED ON 07-Jun-10 AT 05:17 PM (PST)
 
What are you posting this under a brand new alternate handle? It's just a rhetorical question. I don't really expect a meaningful answer.


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including moderation

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11. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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   Im back! Im back! I do agree, however, that the ranking system may be flawed. Grace has been a thorn in my side and shes not even working! lol i kid, i kid. All the wonderful ladies work hard to get to where they are, I just wish it got updated. I would have totally understood if I got booted when I was gone for 3 months to resume my rank when I returned, but what about ladies who have a mere fraction of the reviews and they arent working off rb?

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12. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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Gia - Glad you're back and hope to get to know you better soon! From what I've seen you've definitely earned your rep every bit as much as the feisty little CV girl I kind of like alittle hehe. I'm also glad that you not only understood but agree with my comments. That shows you have a good head on your shoulders when it comes to this sort of thing.


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14. "RE: Can Red Please Make The Ranking System Just A Little More Hon"
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   Well thought out idea and use of fact based arguments.
Definitely could use ranking system improvements especially since you mentioned one of my personal favorites Adrian916 and one of my other is that petite wonder from CV.

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