For play time, cats do go nuts over a laser pointer but you really are being a cock tease to them when you use them. They like a tactile pay off. So they are all hunt no capture.
My girl likes ball type toys, anything she can bat really far, ping pong balls thrill her. And the boy likes things he can pick up in his mouth. It is cute to see him wandering around with a fuzzy mouse in his mouth while he looks for a place to put it. I am always finding his toys in open boxes, their food and water bowl, my shoes and my pants pockets. Thats what happens when you don't hang up your jeans, you find a cat spit covered toy when you reach for your keys.

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It is ok to allow a cat to go outside, just not to let them run free outside.
I have extended my fence on my patio and it can not be climbed by my cats. They hang out in the sun sometimes but they do not get to run free. People do not let dogs run free, they find ways to keep them on their property and the same can be done with cats.

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The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

Just wondering because all pets other than some cats are house pets.

Dogs do not get to run free, they might have a yard but it is fenced, birds, hampsters, turtles, fish. None of them get to run free.

Do you take the PETA type stance that all pet ownership is cruelty and slavery?
If so I understand it but do not agree.

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I'm not a PETA tard Kallell. But the house pet thing is barbaric if you asked me. Most "common household pets" have their sexual organs removed to prevent over population and behavior that is unacceptable to their owners.

Would you be cool if you were confined to your house forever and your balls were chopped off by your "owner"?

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

But I do not fully understand your view on this, do you think that all dogs and cats should just be free to roam the land?

It sounds cool in a Disney movie way, but it is not realistic.

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Yes! But I'm not suggesting a Disney style tear jerking release of house pets into the wild.

The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

I gather that you think no one should have a pet and animals that we have domesticated over the years should be free, sonds nice as well, but it would end badly for all.

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The Mighty Magical Wizard of Pussy

......and they taste good too..........when properly seasoned

But I think we agree in principle. I certainly agree that no more types of animals should be domesticated and I revel in the stories of a peson keeping a chimp as a pet only to have the chimp turn on him and rip his beanbag off.

But man has domesticed cats and dogs, and we have created a world that is not a safe environment for them. Humans need to be responsible and provide environment for them.

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I have an indoor cat who hasn't been out since she was a baby. She was a sick baby when I first came across her, and living rough. Her life is pampered now and she never appears bored, and all her needs are met. She has all her claws and uses her living environment as her jungle. She runs everywhere, sometimes doing flips, etc.. but main thing she is safe. ALL the cats who were out door cats disappeared, during the time when I was determining whether or not to let her out. I lived in apartments and every single one of those cats came up missing in a pretty short period of time.
Not mine... she is staying in and I plan to do the next 20years with her...... She is great, and I'm quite sure she is very happy. Whenever she hears my voice she wags her tail.

-Your Wonder Woman-

Three years later, when we moved back down the hill, I had NO ducks, one very traumatized goat, one frazzled cat, and one, crazy, dog left.

I found out that when you live in the country - you don't have outdoor pets - you have "snacks."

I've since moved back to the country.

However -

The only pets I have are two big tanks of beautiful fish.

Visually pleasing, relaxing and much less worry.

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

Sounds like a Veal Cutlet candidate to me. Please send me information about availability and price per pound, not including legs tail and head.

Jewels, I would wag my tail too if I had one whenever I hear your voice. Now if I could just get you to wag your tail when you hear my voice.

~Everything in moderation
including moderation

What I am interested in is getting some type of device that attaches to the fence and does not allow my cats to jump over but still remain in my back yard. Does anyone know of such a thing?