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Monkeyman74
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"We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a reference"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 08:23 PM (PST)
 
I've seen something like this before. The site charges a fee, you send them a copy of your drivers license and verify that you are you. In this aplication there are definitely some details to work out. And I know not everyone would be into it. But it would be great to pay like $30, get verified and then providers could use that as opposed to checking references. It could make things easier and more efficient for us all. Another idea I've had which could be incorporated would be providers reviewing the hobbyist. They could rate hygiene, professoinalism, and maybe other aspects of conduct. Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I've yet to see it. What do you guys/ girls think?

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BigBopper BigBopper rating
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1. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 08:48 PM (PST)
 


BB22

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2. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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NFW am I going to give anyone in this hobby my personal information. If giving provider references isn't enough then I move on to someone else who's reasonable. After all, the girls don't reveal their own real identities and neither should we.
And as far as providers reviewing us, all I have to say to that is they can review me once they pay me. I can tell you that if you give a prospective girl a reference or two, those ladies will clue her in if you have a hygiene (or any other objectionable) issue.

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Monkeyman74
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3. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   Guess I should have been a little more clear. The verification would keep all personal info anonomyous. The whole process would have to be very secure. It wouldn't have to link to your rb handle either. It can be totally separate. Although maybe post count and rating score could be linked, for whatever they would be worth. Like I said, this surely wouldn't be for everyone.

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4. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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>Guess I should have been a little more clear. The
>verification would keep all personal info anonomyous. The
>whole process would have to be very secure. It wouldn't have
>to link to your rb handle either. It can be totally
>separate. Although maybe post count and rating score could
>be linked, for whatever they would be worth. Like I said,
>this surely wouldn't be for everyone.
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Youre on an anonymous whore board, suggested a reliable reference service for an illegal activity.

Do you have rabies or something?

Fujiwara tofu rocks!

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5. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 10:27 PM (PST)
 
this is from RB clueless forum classified thread.

disclaimer by RB

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My Red Book (RB) is not an agency and does not participate in, nor is a party to any Adult Personals or Classifieds transaction. RB does not screen nor control users who may sell or buy on Classfieds, nor does RB review, endorse, or authenticate any listing or services offered for sale.


I imagine same applies to people who are seeking escort too.

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dark_mirror dark_mirror rating
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6. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 11:05 PM (PST)
 
>you send them a copy of your drivers license and verify that you are you.

Wouldn't that alone be immediately considering pandering? Or at least a more active participant than simply an ad board, and thus, a whole lot of legal implications would rain over RB? Mmmhhh....

References is just like word of mouth recommendations. Word gets around that a certain client is The good, The bad or The ugly (sorry, couldn't resist), but RB continues to be just a communications medium for interchanging information, which may or may not be the figment of the imagination of those who wrote them, in case the judge asks.

Additionally, based on historical data I have read, potential clients are really very skeptical in providing more than just minimal information to a potential provider OR to a place that will, somehow, store that private information. Privacy and discretion are very valued on RB by both providers and hobbyists.

As far as providers reviewing hobbyists, I suspect there might be something already in place for that, where only VIP hearts can access, I do not know.

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7. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Aug-10 AT 11:20 PM (PST)
 
No way in hell can that take off. Too many privacy issues, and breach of personal information.

Even if something similar can be created internally here that providers can look at to confirm the individual/rb member status, it will be flamed before it even begins.

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8. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   No way...would I give my personal information to ANY reference website! Beat it!

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9. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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You do realize that hobbying is illegal, right?

Be the change
you wish to see

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10. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   "In this aplication there are definitely some details to work out."

I'd say there are for sure. Like, how do you guarantee that you'll remain anonymous? Plus, what's to stop someone from sending in a copy of someone else's license?

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RickVanWolford RickVanWolford rating
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11. "Escort reviews of clients -"
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That would be hilarious to discover what the ladies really think of some of the arrogant gentlemen on this board. Just hilarious.

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12. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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LAST EDITED ON 31-Aug-10 AT 11:09 AM (PST)
 
Are you serious with this? Are you suggesting something that amounts to a Solicitation of Prostitution Clearing House? If you really want to save cops the trouble, just go turn yourself in.

And really...a copy of a driver's license? Do you have any idea what I can do with photoshop and a scanned copy of my DL?

Dude, I don't even take my DL into a session - you seriously think I'm gonna PAY $30 to have some company "verify" me? No thanks; I'll earn my reputation and references the hard way...



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13. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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This may be a stupid question but why build a reference verification service within rb when there are already similar sites/services in existence and being used?

To me, it seems like replication and added risk.

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14. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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I totally support some type of "Verified Client" system here on RB, there are other sites that use different types of systems to the same end. I'd be most comfortable with something like... Providers with 5 reviews by reviewers with several reviews to their handle can provide a reference to the handle on the site that other providers could look up. Something like the "Points" system, where it's either a yes or no with a small area for a comment to be left.

Have a nice day.

Love . Ireland . xoxo

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20. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   Have you ladies ever thought of useing the current rating system?
It has a positive, negative and space for comments. I would like to see something that you could use. It really is a pain in the ass to have to search for adds, copy and paste the link, etc..
I think it is something that you ladies have to take up with Red. If you are not comfortable with something, you won't use it and it won't be worth a shit.

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15. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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Hm. Of course it would be totally voluntary, so the people who don't want to use it, don't. Other than a low rate of compliance, the other issue I see is that it might make the owner(s) of RB vulnerable to prosecution under pimping and pandering laws. I think. Maybe. Not that I know anything about it.

Yes, it would be great to have one central clearing house, instead of the reference clusterfuck we have now. If it would work the way it was intended and not be abused. I'm thinking it's not possible, but I wish it were.

Regarding the other idea of a rating system for clients, speaking strictly for myself, I would not participate. It's enough for me to know that a man is safe, and I can find out the rest for myself. I've spent years in therapy trying to get rid of my mother's opinion of my sex partners. Now that she is finally out of my bedroom I don't want to bring in another raft of people and their judgements. So y'all go on without me, I'll catch up.

Gretchen

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17. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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preferred411 .c0m is the best site for this type of thing. you send all your information to them and they work it that way. I absolutely love love love the site. It is so nice when i am contacted from someone off here it makes seeing them feel very comfortable.


Caution: Known to be habit forming

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18. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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   curious777

There have been some crazy ideas on RB before but this is the craziest, i think. Into this basically free enterprise system you are trying to insert market controls, BIG BROTHER, almost the Gestapo, or the KGB. And don't you think that the providers already rate the clients, even though there are no published reviews? Let it alone, please. It really ain't broke. We don't HAVE to go to the providers who require references. Free choice. Vanilla Ashley said it all a little while ago on one of these posts, "Let the provider run her business the way she wants to do so." It's true that there are some flakes and fakes out there but with only one or two minor exceptions over a stretch of about three years, all the businesswomen i have met on RB really know what they are doing and they do it beautifully. We even have a mechanism for contesting vindictive hobbyists who post outrageously hostile reviews. Don't meddle. OMG a central clearing house!!!!!

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19. "RE: We need RB to have a verification service to serve as a refer"
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"you send them a copy of your drivers license and verify that you are you"

Ted Bundy, Rodney James Alcala, Dennis Rader, William Suff, Lorenzo Gilyard......anyone can get a drivers license. That doesn't mean they're okay.


Piper
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