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"Craigs List is censored - adult section"
 
LAST EDITED ON 03-Sep-10 AT 08:25 PM (PST)
 
No more CL for the adult section.
It finally happened.

Goodbye CL

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1. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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..talk dorky to me baby.

tell me. will you really miss it? i mean *really*?

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2. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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http://blog.patyuen.com/2010/09/03/craigslist-removes-adult-services-section-at-the-urging-of-attorney-generals-from-17-states/

On August 24th, Attorney Generals from 17 States in calling on craigslist to immediately remove the Adult Services portion of the site due to continued rampant prostitution advertisements and mounting public outrage. The multi-state letter, to craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster and founder Craig Newmark, contends that craigslist cannot — or will not — adequately screen these ads, so it should stop accepting them altogether and shut down the Adult Services section.

It appears Craiglist is complying with the request with little fanfare or announcement. Users from across the country have been reporting the removal of the section in multiple cities including those in the San Francisco Bay Area even though California was not one of the States who signed the letter. It’s unclear why the site decided to mark the section as censored rather than removing it altogether. Perhaps it is a way for them to make a statement. It is not just censored for non logged in users. Users with accounts will see the same black ‘censored’ label over the previous Adult Services listing.

“Craigslist clearly lacks the wherewithal — or will — to fight flagrant prostitution ads that persist on its site,” Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said. “Prostitution is a booming business on craigslist, perhaps more than ever before.

“We understand that prostitution is profitable — but its human toll is intolerable, and craigslist should cease being an enabler,” Blumenthal said. “Despite its much-touted ‘manual review’ of Adult Services, craigslist has failed to block blatant prostitution ads.”

“The increasingly sharp public criticism of craigslist’s Adult Services section reflects a growing recognition that ads for prostitution — including ads trafficking children — are rampant on it,” Blumenthal said in the letter. “In our view, the company should take immediate action to end the misery for the women and children who may be exploited and victimized by these ads.

“We recognize that craigslist may lose the considerable revenue generated by the Adult Services ads. No amount of money can justify the scourge of illegal prostitution, and the suffering of women and children who will continue to be victimized, in the market and trafficking provided by craigslist.”


Read more: http://blog.patyuen.com/2010/09/03/craigslist-removes-adult-services-section-at-the-urging-of-attorney-generals-from-17-states/#ixzz0yXCuyrAp


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3. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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   I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating...


If they weren't such total hypocrites, they should shut down the Pentagon next...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100903/us_yblog_upshot/pentagon-declined-to-investigate-hundreds-of-purchases-of-child-pornography

Pentagon declined to investigate hundreds of purchases of child pornography

A 2006 Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigation into the purchase of child pornography online turned up more than 250 civilian and military employees of the Defense Department -- including some with the highest available security clearance -- who used credit cards or PayPal to purchase images of children in sexual situations. But the Pentagon investigated only a handful of the cases, Defense Department records show.
...

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4. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 00:14 AM (PST)
 
I wonder how many ad monitors are out of job over there...I'm sorry they now know what it feels like to be put out on the streets....at a moments notice.....
but maybe on the other hand, this is what they did last time when they 're-tooled' that section, it went down for a couple of days and then came back up, new and screwed, (and they actually told me I couldn't use the word 'new' in my ad a few days ago in trying to repost my existing ad as per their directions...)

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5. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 08:02 AM (PST)
 
I read about the gov and kid porn. It goes on and on the young stuff. NO MORE child sex abuse, as humans NO more hiding in the sand like our partents did. I know, I was raised in a sexually dsyfuntional California family.
For a long time I did not know about CL. Since January 2010 recession it went to the sewer with woman haters, stalkers, disrepectful cheapos and I do not speak much English. It was like fishing on a bad Saturday in a hurricane. But the fish did show up. Men liked CL, it was simple and a stealth airplane. No one knew what they were doing. Get in and out, simple and quick. Big provider search engines do not bring the fish like in the past. It will interesting to see where the men go to get fun.

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7. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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   I believe even if the people wants to get prostitution legalized in vast majorities it still won't happen.Because our politicians are controlled by big brother,yes big brother! You see it behind the dollar bill...Yes that's the evil eye of Horus on top of the pyramid and nope that ain't GOD either!Little by little people will lose their privileges,rights,freedom and even to the smallest degree including getting laid by a sex workers.The"Illuminati"controls our society and laws and the law makers who makes them including our leaders and other leaders of the world.Open your eyes people or else things can be very irreversable 2 years from now and we are seeing the sign of times and "CHANGE"as Obama puts it.

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8. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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   "The multi-state letter, to craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster and founder Craig Newmark, contends that craigslist cannot — or will not — adequately screen these ads, so it should stop accepting them altogether and shut down the Adult Services section."

As I mentioned on an earlier thread on the topic, our move to begin reviewing ad content was the first step out onto a slippery slope that has now taken us to this unfortunate bottom. Erotic/Adult services and gigs won't be returning at any point in the foreseeable future, which is not to say that some alternate form or forms of those sections won't self-replicate and (somehow) come to occupy some off-shore computers well beyond the reach of any State Attorney General.

Craig could have chosen to take those measures at any point in the past and also chosen at that same time to begin profiting from what would have been an extremely lucrative spin-off company. He didn't decide not to; he never considered doing so in the first place.

"Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said. 'We recognize that craigslist may lose the considerable revenue generated by the Adult Services ads. No amount of money can justify the scourge of illegal prostitution, and the suffering of women and children who will continue to be victimized, in the market and trafficking provided by craigslist.'”

The only thing that CL will lose is the opportunity to become embroiled in a lengthy and costly legal battle that would have to be fought on many fronts simultaneously. CL never profited from the fees charged for Adult Service ads; any monies beyond our staffing and associated infra-structure costs were donated to a variety of non-profit organizations.

The issue of human trafficking and the sexual exploitation of minors is a very serious one that deserves the full attention and careful study of everyone who shares this view. We've repeatedly asked for the documentary evidence supporting specific claims of human trafficking and the sexual exploitation of minors that were alleged to have been facilitated through the misuse of our site. As of this writing, none has been received.

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9. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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thank you for the insights, truly.
I am grateful that CL fought for the adult ads as long as they did and sorry that they were pressured to this end.

a separate site with off shore servers is a great idea

but in the meantime someone might want to watch these copycats pretending to be CL
Sure to be many more springing up...sigh

good luck

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10. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-Sep-10 AT 08:52 AM (PST)
 
CL did not fight to make it safe for sex workers. The law forced them to change. CL did not care. Stupid CL, they fucked it for our community. Their attitude still does not care. I have watched the whole ordeal with CL go down. If they had respect at the beinning they would of monitored the board. CL did not do that at the beginning. They let it get way out of hand. NOW they are putting it UP that they are responsible??? oh please.............. zoe zane

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20. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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Sure they did. They moved the fight from the streets, where pimps and thugs rule, to the internet. Your position strengthens the hands and influence of and those who rely on physical coercion. Hell, I could make a stronger case for you not caring about sex workers because you want to see pimps run the show than you can against CL because they didn't do enough to stop abuses.

CL was never in it for or against sex workers. They wanted an adult services section so the sex workers wouldn't Spam inappropriate forums, kind of like Red does from time to time with RB posters who get their own forums to limit their disruption in other forums.

Sex workers and adult ads were never part of their mission. The whole thing was a pain in their ass from day one, but it came with the territory. Just because they did not share YOUR vision, it does NOT follow that they had nefarious designs.

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17. "What Can You Do?"
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   >a separate site with off shore servers is a great idea


From what I have heard, providers are already defying these twisted attorney generals by placing their ads in either the Personals section or the Casual Encounters section.

Sounds like a great way to protest the attorney generals by messing up their intention.

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22. "RE: Craigs List is censored - as in removed"
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LAST EDITED ON 09-Sep-10 AT 02:07 PM (PST)
 

>
>As I mentioned on an earlier thread on the topic, our move
>to begin reviewing ad content was the first step out onto a
>slippery slope that has now taken us to this unfortunate
>bottom.
>
>The only thing that CL will lose is the opportunity to
>become embroiled in a lengthy and costly legal battle that
>would have to be fought on many fronts simultaneously. CL
>never profited from the fees charged for Adult Service ads;
>any monies beyond our staffing and associated
>infra-structure costs were donated to a variety of
>non-profit organizations.
>
> We've repeatedly asked for the documentary evidence
>supporting specific claims of human trafficking and the
>sexual exploitation of minors that were alleged to have been
>facilitated through the misuse of our site. As of this
>writing, none has been received.

Well the only way to get that 'evidence' is to engage in the court battle and then your attorneys would have to pull teeth to get that information as in having special hearings and threats to hold the 'prosecutors in pretend contempt of court' and then you'd only been given some of the information because that is standard prosecution tatics. Just look at what the DA of San Francisco has done. And they're going to elect her to a higher office!

Given this has been a well orchestrated campaign all along, its just some of us saw it coming because some of us have been to this movie before. It repeats in different locations, the names change, but its all the same outcome. There's not really too much to do when they've decided they want your head on a stick. Many of us go to jail even when there is manufactured evidence gross and mis-handling of evidence in court preceding both at the superior and appellate level. Innocent people are killed on by the state on death row imagine what they do to the rest of us. The only thing that can really be done is make them show their ass in producing the 'evidence'.

I for one would have loved to sit in that court to hear how FBI agents are exposing themselves to little girls, then arresting them, putting them in jail, where they are further assaulted through the criminal injustice system... yeah a court case would have opened up a whole can of worms the faux human rights people didn't want to get into, that's why the wrote the letters. If they'd had anything, they would have level charges and not sent a letter.
And now that that section is gone, I think some folks will be asking more of the hard questions, but most of us already knew the answers.
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6. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-Sep-10 AT 01:46 PM (PST)
 
Though Cl brought me money, no, i will not miss it. Posting on their website was more irritating than it should be, and i spent alot of time trying to post to their standards, only to find out others were getting away with alot more flesh showing. The only thing they were consistent with was rejecting my ads. I will simply find somewhere else to post. I will not however, be explicit because i really like this site, and don't want to contribute to any scrutiny that may come this way. I don't hink you girls need to be stressing about gong homeless and stuff. No need to feel sorry for yourselves. You've made it this far despite alot of life's obstacles and you can contitnue to get even further in life , as i'm sure is a goal for most of you. As for the girls that are worried about the cl'ers spamming, parhaps you can pay the $250 and get your add up on the featured adds? That way your adds don't get lost.

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11. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-Sep-10 AT 09:43 AM (PST)
 
two fifty is way tooo much money for these adds in this market.. and where does the money go? Into someone's pocket and not back to us? At least CL gave the money back to us. All of these adult websites are just about catering to the clickers and not to the one's who pay them, us.

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12. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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   In its article on CL's adult section the SJ Mercury News referenced Redbook--hmmmm

(from the article:) It's unclear how much Craigslist's decision will help police. One Silicon Valley law-enforcement officer familiar with vice-squad work said Saturday that an even bigger headache for police trying to stop online prostitution and child exploitation is myredbook.com as well as some local alternative newspapers, which prominently feature numerous ads for places such as massage parlors in the back pages.
"My Red Book is a huge vehicle for online prostitution," said the officer, "so our guys work that one and even the back of newspapers. I'm sure they'll be happy Craigslist is getting rid of these ads, but I'm not sure how much difference it'll make." http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_15993274

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13. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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   Redbook is next.

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16. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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   Could be, but it will be a whole lot harder to go after any dedicated adult site, such as RB or Eros, because they can simply move their servers off-shore if they haven't already. Many on-line gambling sites operate in this manner, so that regardless of what the local laws are individuals will continue to be able to access all of these services unless and until the US enacts some sort of Big Brother like censorship controls like China, which is not currently on the table as far as I know.

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21. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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   What worried me about the San Jose Mercury article was the suggestion that law enforcement was using redbook to pursue people breaking the law--providers and clients--not that they were trying to shut the site down.

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14. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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Now that`s bizzare. Craig list Erotic Adult services censored in the USA but not censored in ... Iran, Iraq, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Israel, Pakistan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Turkey, communist China! Please check Craiglist International. Last week Craig interview with CNN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huJIg1LlXgA

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15. "RE: Craigs List is censored - adult section"
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Well if we can get our lawsuit filed in time, we might beable to file and injunction against any further investigation/arrests/prosecutions until the outcome of our case.


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18. "1 'censored' bar won't stop online prostitution"
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   'Censoring' of Craigslist's adult services section only drives online prostitution underground

Craiglist's "adult services" section has been shut down in the U.S., but prostitution on the Internet is alive and well _ even, quite possibly, on Craigslist.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/AP/Search/Business/Default.aspx?id=1157544

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19. "RE: 1 'censored' bar won't stop online prostitution"
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CL literally has a gun to their head after these faux human rights groups violated the terms of use on their site by posting fake ads and then told the prospective clients that the person they'd be having sex with was young and the client still agreed to show up...such is kinds of evidence they were facing in not one state but multiple states.
Having to defend yourself in on state on criminal charges is horrific enough but multiple states was really unfathomable. And they were risking loosing the whole site because shutting down that whole site is really what the capitalist who are backing the state attorney generals wanted. The media capitalist are still angry about loosing so much classified revenue to CL, a non profit, the faux human rights groups was only used as the means...
My guess is that the cronnie capitalist won't be satisfied and certainly the faux human rights groups are empowered in fact,
'Getting such ads removed from other sites is the next goal', said Malika Saada Said.
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20100905/0d747993-5f9b-42fe-8ba3-2ef65d94a876 close your eyes and pretend I'm a girl.

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