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rustytrmbone09
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28-May-09, 10:46 AM (PST)
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"A quick question......."
 
   Do the providers on this forum REALLY enjoy a "first-timer?"

I have been pondering walking on the wild side with a smooth TS girl for a long time but m hesitant because of the whole first timer thing and because Im afraid I'll make a dumb choice and get some scruffy masculine looking thing.

I've said it before, I'm a straight guy with a little curiosity in him. Wont exactly call myself Bi because I haven't took the giant leap of faith yet.

Im looking for a super femme looking bottom girl. Im looking to be the man and not interested in their packages or servicing them.

So before all you men out there start berating me for what you might think is a lie (or denial) help a brother out with some insight. "Ladies," you too.

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Autumnbreeze
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1. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #0
 
Please forgive me if this comes across as slightly rude but...you don't seem like exactly a representative example of a 'first-timer'. There may be some girls who are really into having an encounter like you describe, but likely not a lot. Reasons:

1) You don't seem to be all that interested in her pleasure. Now, granted, you are paying for her time, therefor your pleasure is paramount. But you did ask whether the girls here REALLY enjoy a first timer. And really, regardless of how many times, if you've little interest in her pleasure, she's unlikely to REALLY enjoy the experience.

2) You are a first timer, who(presumably) has never been topped before. It seems also likely you have never topped before yourself. And quite frankly, that is not a skill that just -happens-.

The majority of GGs -hate- that kind of play, and often it is because some guy did a poor job, hurt the hell out of them, and soured them to the idea permanently. It's different then PIV, and takes skill to learn. Now a girl that is a really experienced bottom can handle it without getting hurt, and maybe teach you, if you are open for learning. But the odds are against it being a top notch experience for her.

Again, sorry if this comes off rude or mean, it's not intended that way. Also, this is just my perspective, speculating from what I understand of the world. YMMV. And there might be some girls out there who take a special pleasure in teaching a green guy, or even in the particular sensations of a raw and unpolished skill. Who knows.

Not that any of this pertains to me, as I generally don't do fs either way. And when I very rarely do, I am more likely to top, for reasons related to #2 above.

Love as thou will.

Gwenyth

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10. "RE: A quick question......."
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-May-09 AT 08:56 PM (PST) by (moderator)
 
>Please forgive me if this comes across as slightly rude

what do you mean slightly rude. you sounds like you have problems. perhaps you think

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Autumnbreeze
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11. "RE: A quick question......."
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Sigh. I knew I should have done a more serious edit on that, not just caveats. Ah well.

My point was simply that the question, as presented, seemed a very odd one all told. I love my work, and really enjoy most sessions, but have difficulty imagining having much enjoyment from someone who was both inexperienced and unconcerned about my pleasure, as it seemed Rusty was stating. I actually -do- enjoy first timers.

So, again, sorry if I offended anyone.

Love as thou will.

Gwenyth

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rustytrmbone09
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06-Jun-09, 08:42 AM (PST)
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12. "RE: A quick question......."
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   So if it is truly someones first time doesn't that by all means make them inexperienced??? Hmmmmmm.........

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Autumnbreeze
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08-Jun-09, 06:10 PM (PST)
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13. "RE: A quick question......."
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Like I said, only a concern if someone is -both- inexperienced and unconcerned about me. I would likely be patient with such a person, but unlikely to -really- enjoy the session. Shrug. The sessions I am most likely to really enjoy a lot are mostly ones in which the guy is as concerned about my pleasure as I am about his. This seems like it would be obvious.

Love as thou will.

Gwenyth

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14. "RE: A quick question......."
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   "The sessions I am most likely to really enjoy a lot are mostly ones in which the guy is as concerned about my pleasure as I am about his."

I'd love to dig into this.... Your perception of your pleasure verses other people's perception of their pleasure. When I was working, I focused completely on the other person and their pleasure, I never pursued my pleasure and had very little faith my companions would have the slightest clue where to begin to help facilitate that end. If I had been in it for my pleasure... I wouldn't have charged in the first place. It's all about service.
There were a few, a very few who provided me with pleasure. I could count them on two fingers. The main person... yes, you know who you are. If you have to ask, you're not him.

Love,

Cindy

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20. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #14
 
The best providers not only give good service to the satisfaction of their clients but are able to recieve and fully enjoy pleasure as well. Not all men seek providers simply for their own pleasure, there are many who return the favor and wish to satisfy their partner too. Of course, both parties have to be of the same mindset where each is willing and truly has the desire to both give and recieve pleasure. This is the ultimate experience between a client and a provider and it happens more often than not with the best of them.

Deanna

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22. "RE: A quick question......."
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   "The best providers not only give good service to the satisfaction of their clients but are able to recieve and fully enjoy pleasure as well. "

Is this a fact or your opinion? Do you have experience other than what you've told us thus far?
I believe from my experience as a provider, seeing many, many clients in a day, it would be unrealistic to expect the provider to fully enjoy each experience. I like the quote from Venezuela in another recent thread, "Personality = Technique"
I can't read her mind but I think she was basically saying that if you focus on your client in a genuine way, they have a great time and give nice reviews etc. This is a service industry, not a boyfriend girlfriend thing in any real sense. Sometimes, I let my work blend into my real life but those times were very rare.

My opinion may differ from that of other readers, this is in no way meant to ruffle feathers,

Love,

Cindy

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Autumnbreeze
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25. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #14
 
Interesting,

Of course it's about serving. I do get a kick out of that too. But I also take real, honest, sexual pleasure out of the majority of the sessions I do. And some are phenomenal. It's one of the reasons I don't see 'many, many clients a day'. I see maybe 4 a week.

I charge because it's a nice supplement to my other job, and even more because...well, being paid for my looks, my touch and my service is a kink for me. It turns me on that someone would want to, and even more that they come back again and again.

This doesn't make my service more, nor less then yours(the consummate professional, who I have heard great things of). Just a bit of a different vibe.

And yes, I do realize that it's his dime, and his pleasure is paramount. No issue here at all. I put a certain emphasis on the question of whether a session in question would be really enjoyable. And, in the case of someone unconcerned with my pleasure, the answer is likely no. I'd still see such a person, and give them the same quality of service as anyone else. I just likely wouldn't see them again.

To each their own.

Love as thou will.

Gwenyth

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freakshow
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28-May-09, 12:44 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #0
 
   If you are not interested in their packages or servicing them why would you go with one? You can have greek with a GG. The fact is you are going to be in a room with another cock, get over it, and don't spend time labeling what you are or are not, it does not matter.

There are girls I have been with whose femininty is beyond question. Vaniity, Savannah, Jacqueline, Brianna, Mia (never been with her but willing to bet on it), India (LA), the latin one who lives across the street from Divas, etc. It is their personalities that are challenging, those hormones are a bee-ach.

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rustytrmbone09
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28-May-09, 01:42 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: A quick question......."
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   Too-shay...........

Why not go with a GG and get some greek? Never really thought about it in that sense.

Im not opposed to being in the room with another cock, what I meant is that I dont care if they can get hard, size, cum, etc, things that I find most people on this forum are truly interested in.

Im willing to bet, in regards to your hormones comment, that they would not have the patience to show me the ropes.

Comments??

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KathyRose
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28-May-09, 01:53 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: A quick question......."
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I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't see why some (self included) would not have patience, if explained ahead of time. When I was first tranzing I was turned on by all the TV's and TS's. It was their look, not the size of their cock, that was important. Looking at a limp penis is erotic and a challenge, so you may just have to adjust depending on the person.
For the record, though most know it, I provide (sell) antiques, nothing else. Been there done the rest and don't look back.
KR

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28-May-09, 04:07 PM (PST)
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6. "Just a simple preposition...."
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{I provide (sell) antiques}

Are you sure you won't provide ( sell) "to" antiques?
and it becomes a simple proposition!

I'm in baby....but you knew that!

It's good to be bad ( or naughty)
sie

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KathyRose
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28-May-09, 05:19 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Just a simple preposition...."
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I do buy antiques, too. But you knew that.

As to "I'm in baby," it reminds me of the Proctologist who asked his bent over patient to spell "RUN" three times.

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16. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #4
 
   The look is my top priority.

A TV that knows how to dress and act is the "look" I'm into but its a pretty small group in my neck of the woods. So I go with what I can get in my area, which means the TS market.

I prefer a smaller cut dick.

I think I'm a little off in that I'm a TOP that likes to suck TV/TS dick. Most of the hard dicks are tops. I know not all but a majority seem to be I have a hard dick-I'm a top kinda gal.

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5. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #3
 
   Miafever was my first.

It could not have been a better experience. She was patient, kissed with a passion I had only had from a few GG's and was not a rush. Although after we were done and I had showered she did give me a serious look and said,"Get my shit and get out". She says the look on my face was priceless. lol

Good luck with your first time,
Cal

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15. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #5
 
It is always my first time......... : )
Cal your a lucky guy I hope one day to have my first time with Mia

Have me, on the side!

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Slugger
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9. "RE: A quick question......."
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   The Latin one that lives across from Divas? That really narrows it down.

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8. "RE: A quick question......."
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   I empathize a bit with "rusty" on this one. For my first few experiences I woud have described myself similar to you. "Curious, seeking a super femme, looking to be the man", etc. I may have phrased things a bit different as your email came off a bit calious (as noticed by Autumn), but in the end my experience was as a top and I enjoyed it tremendously. As some others on here have stated, things are not so CUT and DRY, especially when it comes to playing with a sexy T-girl. I would only say this...rather than focusing strictly on looks and appearance (which are obviously important), I think you need to find your self an understanding gal who needs to understand your situation and feelings. And at the same time, you need to relax and be understanding yourself. I have not had the honor to play with many of the lovely ladies who chime in here, but I will say that my experiences with Vivienne (lives on the Central Coast and has an on EROS) have been top notch, and would higjly recommend her for a "first timer"

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17. "RE: A quick question......."
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Hi Rusty,

Personally I enjoy a first timer. I really enjoy having a very nice time, and with someone new, I tend to go that extra mile. I believe that a provider should go out of their way to ensure that your time is spent with her is very pleasant.

One of the problems that many providers encounter - including my own self - is that many of those we encounter claim that it is their first time. However, when we meet the person, it is quickly revealed that the session is not the first for the client. As a result, when someone calls the provider claiming that this is their first time, the provider will not always take it too seriously. After all, we all know if someone has seen a provider before, and we also know when the person we are seeing is truly a first timer.

As a first timer, you should have some clear fantasy that you would like fulfilled, and communicate that fantasy to the provider. After all, if you are going to spend your hard earned cash on seeing a provider, you should have an idea of what you want. Keep your desires real, and you will find that most decent providers will not have a problem with fulfilling and exceeding your expectations.

I am hopeful that this information was of assistance to you.

Lots of Love,


Megan Louana

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18. "RE: A quick question......."
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   I remember my first time like it was yesterday. It was about five years ago, and she had a loft on Mission. Wisely, I set up the appt. for 2 hours.

We sat downstairs, had a drink and spent about 15 minutes, getting, getting to know one another. Naturally I was pretty nervous, but we started kissing and petting and she said we should go upstairs, and once up there, the kissing and petting continued, and soon she was topping me. After five minutes, it started to hurt a little and I mentioned it and she said to be quiet, she was having an orgasm, (not her exact words.) After we rested she apologized for getting off so quickly, but explained that she was horny and turned on. I felt like a king. She then proceeded to take a Viagra, and gave me an anatomy lesson. We then proceeded into a session I have rarely experienced since. we did about everything there was to do, and then some.

The session lasted about well over the two hours agreed upon with her orgasming again in my mouth, and me orgasming twice. It was the most beautiful session I have ever had with anyone on RB, (GG or TG) before or since. I was so exhausted, I thought about getting a room in SF, as I thought I would never be able to drive back to Sac, but once outside I was okay and drove home and my facial cheeks ached from grinning.

I never went back to see her as I knew nothing could top that experience. She is gone now and for the life of me I cannot remember her name. But I am forever grateful to her for showing me that a provider (show me where it says a provider CAN'T enjoy the session) and it was very pleasurable, at least to me, when she was showing me through body language what she really enjoyed and she certainly reciprocated. It was waaaaaay beyond GFE.

It was an experience I will remember and treasure for the rest of my life.

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19. "RE: A quick question......."
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Very awesome, very, very awesome. Now that is a service that every provider needs to strive to meet or exceed. It is unfortunate that in today's world that very few providers strive to make an experience as memorable as possible. The problem is finding a provider that provides this service.

One way to find such service is via the review system. I know there is a lot of controversy (both pro and con) about the validity of reviews. In the TS/TV community, it is very difficult to have the client we see to write a review. For example, most of my clients are from RB, but getting someone to write a review on us is so difficult. The problem is that society has this social taboo about trans women, and seeing a trans provider is like super taboo. So the thought of writing a review is even more taboo. But alas, I am content in just providing awesome service. But there is that little part of me that gets irked that a review is not done on the service I provide. Even with the anonymous handle, clients are still fearful of doing a review.

Maybe one day, those social stigmas will be shattered. Just my opinion though.

Lots of Love,


Megan Louana

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21. "RE: A quick question......."
In response to message #19
 
   "In the TS/TV community, it is very difficult to have the client we see to write a review. "

That most certainly has not been my experience. The men I saw were always happy to write a review when I mentioned it and if I didn't get the chance before, I mean ot thank each and every one of you who did. I think you all were overly kind, the reviews you gave me were often worth more to me than the gift, often worth more to me than the fun we shared. I kept all of them in my scrap book.

http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=667020


Love,

Cindy

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23. "RE: A quick question......."
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I guess part of the problem is that I have only been on RB for a year, and active on the boards since last November. I have had reviews elsewhere, but only one here on RB. I would love for more of the RB clients that I see to do reviews. Perhaps the key phrase here is: "Patience is a virtue." I have noticed that the Genetic providers are reviewed more frequently than the TS girls. So I guess that is kind of frustrating. But thank you for your insight.


Lots of Love,


Megan Louana

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24. "RE: A quick question......."
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   Cindy
I certainly enjoyed our exchanges, both on the board and, of course, in person.
Your rumi

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