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Main_st
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"sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
 
   I THINK ITS SOO WEIRD THAT MAJORITY OF TS GIRLS ON HERE ARE ASIAN/AND LATINA....BUT YET MOST OF THE GIRLS LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME....

WHERE;S THE VARIETY??

MAYBE IF THE JOHNS WERENT SO STUCK IN THEIR WAYS AND STOP PICKING COLOR OVER QUALITY WE'D ACTUALLY HAV MORE FUN....

IVE TALKED TO A FEW GIRLS WHO JUST SAY, "WELL THEY PREFER HER BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID I WILL ROB THEM OR THEY DONT THINK THATS ME IN THE PICS..."

WOW IS THAT HOW THINGS ARE DONE AROUND HERE?

I DESPISE GOING TO DIVAS BECAUSE ITS A TOTAL TRAIN WRECK IN THERE. I FEEL LIKE IM IN A LOW BUDGET COSMETICS COMMERCIAL....DONT GET ME WRONG EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL IN THEIR OWN WAY BUT DAMN THERES SOME FRANKENSTEINS AROUND THERE.

THEN I GO ON HERE AND DONT REALLY FEEL AS SURPSRISED AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

THE SAME GIRLS LURKING IN THAT CLUB ARE ALL ON HERE, IF THEY ARENT IN A CLUB THEIR DOING INSANE DRUGS IN THEIR HOTEL ROOMS....ITS TOTALLY A SHAME BECAUSE, WHERE HAV ALL THE GOOD GIRLS GONE?

I'VE SEEN SOME VERY ATTRACTIVE WOMEN FROM HERE....MIA FEVER, BECCA, BRIANA, ANIYA, DONNA ETC...BUT THEY ARE RARE GEMS NOT EVERY GIRL HAS QUALITIES LIKE THOSE WOMEN, I EXPECT FEMALES WITH A LITTLE EXTRA, NOT MEN WHO DRESS AS GIRLS AND TOTALLY LOOK LIKE IT...(VENUS, VANITY LADYBOY X, RANDOM MEN WHO POST ADS AS MEN)

AS GENTLEMEN WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK FOR BETTER...NOT EVERY LATINA GIRL IS GONNA SHOW YOU A CALIENTE TIME AND NOT EVERY ASIAN IS PASSABLE BELIEVE ME, NOT EVERY BLACK GIRL IS FROM OAKLAND TRYIN TO TAKE YOUR WALLET.

BE MORE CONSIDERATE, NOT EVERY GIRL WILL PLEASE YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT SOMEONE ELSE WENT THROUGH.

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1. "Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   Your post has some salient points, but it looks like your real intent is to bash; Venus, Vanity and LadyBoyX. Why? what does this accomplish either for you or others on these boards?

Kindness goes a long way in all areas of life. You closed your message by asking others to be more considerate, pls take you own advice

TSO

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2. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   Sir in all do respect, you didnt quite get what i was talking about, i said i look for females with a little extra and name a few that has that, i wasnt bashing vanity or ladyboyx but clearly those arent TS women. they do what they do but i refuse to include them in the same category as women such as mia fever... so just because you hav a soft spot for cross dressers doesnt mean im wrong...power of opinion.

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3. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   will its look like that you have your preference and the lady you like
are some what the same in looks ,
I have a ? are a you TS ..
or a guy that like big butts , glad your here..
here to have fun and play it open to all gals and men to..ftm

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4. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   I have a ? are a you TS ..
or a guy that like big butts , glad your here..

My best guess answer to your question is he/she is a ts.

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5. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   thank you tammie i appreciate your comment....

i'm actually from the east coast i moved to redwood city a while back, supposed to be temporarily bt you know how that goes...

i love ts women, i hav no concern for a tv/transvestite/drag queen etc..any man can put on hair and a dress but theres alot more to bein feminine...the touch the feel, the whole sexual experience, im sure majority of men on here hav had a biological woman and im sure in some ways they can relate....

basically what i'm just stating is how i feel and my opinion about the site....if you ask me there really isnt any kind of variety, and the girls you wish you ran into you gotta catch em while their hot so to speak.

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7. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   smiley let me ask you a question...when you look at a cross dresser and a ts do you think of them as the same? or does it even matter as long as theres a penis involved?

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11. "RE: Why Bash ________&_________&__________?"
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   yes I see ...I have been looking for a TS lover , for a long time and it not that easy to meet my Taste , I call craiglist casual encounters CD4M not T4M ..
but that said it takes all kinds and that very cool...some real nice cd&tv out there and we all are CD , be for we are TS woman or TS men..

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6. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   First of all, Mr. 3 posts, I've met Vanity Haze,FYI, she's not a CD. The only thing we can agree on is Mia, since I met her recently. As far as Divas is concerned, I've been there about 3 or 4 times now, and I've seen everything there. You can be whoever you want to there. What's wrong with that? You don't have to talk to anyone you don't want to. As far as color goes, I like all flavors! Black, Latina, Asian, White, and everything in between! Some do put on alot of makeup, they're trying to look good. GG's don't paint their faces, c'mon!

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8. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   tons of flavors are there but that doesnt mean anything....theres these 2 hot asian girls there but many guys at the bar say they hav been there forvever, and as far as what else was in there i wasnt too intrigued....majority was cross dressers and the occassional latina TS women hung out around the nite block....divas was pretty dirty my friend...so not like peanuts in l.a thumbs down

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9. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   by the way wasnt there more hangout spots than DIVAS??

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10. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   I don't know when you were there, but I was there on a Friday night about a month ago from around 11:30PM to about 1:30AM. Sure there were CD's there. But at the same time, I saw alot of very hot T-girls that night. Maybe bad timing?

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12. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   i mean you hav your regulars, its funny san francisco is not what it used to be, and on a friday nite theres more CD's than TS....Like it or not CD's are the main crowd of divas...its even like that at power exchange (PE) i've seen this before if you want to get in free a man will actually dress up as a woman just to be there....lol im just saying WOW to the whole things honestly....the bay area will settle for anything nowadays

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13. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-Aug-10 AT 08:30 PM (PST)
 
You seem to be totally confused, Mr. Main_st. You talk like you're a clueless hick from Main St, USA in some midwest town out in the boonies. First off, even though the Asians and Latinas are the predominant groups at Divas, they do not all look the same nor do they all have the same personalities. Also there is a lot of diversity at Divas in ethnic groups, age, and looks. Secondly, there is no way there are more CD's than TS's on a Friday night...it's the exact opposite. I do agree that the PE attracts more TV/CD's than TS's but that's beside the point since your main focus is on Divas. And thirdly, did you even pay attention to the title of this particular forum you just posted in? It's "TV/TS"....DUH! It's fine if your preference is for TS's (and that's certainly the case for most of the male posters here), but let's not bash the TV's in the very forum that is set up for them!

And please get rid of the CAPS. People do not like being yelled at from a soapbox.

Deanna

edit: It's funny that you mentioned Peanuts in L.A. which has been out of existence for a couple of years now...talk about being out of the loop!

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14. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   >i mean you hav your regulars, its funny san francisco is not
>what it used to be, and on a friday nite theres more CD's
>than TS....Like it or not CD's are the main crowd of
>divas...its even like that at power exchange (PE) i've seen
>this before if you want to get in free a man will actually
>dress up as a woman just to be there....lol im just saying
>WOW to the whole things honestly....the bay area will settle
>for anything nowadays

The Bay Area Rules Ms.Dude...and your comments are weak jabs directed at what???

Maybe you should move back east

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15. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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This is in reference to Mr main street and Tamie.
Mr Main st.I you despise going into divas so much then why do u go?
Not all of us are on drugs as u say if fact many girls have jobs as well.
You talk about these special gems and in fact this is true about men,women,all transgendered and gays. That is what makes some people special. But you are only looking on the outside and inner qualites count in my book too. Not all of us look like Victoria Secret models but that sure goes for genetic girls too.
Also you have shown nothing but disrespect for many of us girls and I know this is my own feeling but really think this labeling of transgendered women is a bit confusing.
Cd,Tv.Ts,Shemale etc.
Some men just like to wear womens clothes and that it.
Some dress like a women and want to be more sexual.
Some take female hormones and are sexual but are not full time
Some are TS and are full time and can be either top or bottom, or both.
I know there is more to it than this but I think u get my point.
If you are so disgusted with the Bay area and all this is a free country why not pack up and leave?
I have been around longer than I woulks like to admit and remember the motherlode and other places. When exactly was this time that you recall when everything was better?
Tamie I suggest you look into another forum as this is called causual encounters to find what you are looking for?
Lianna


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19. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   So leanna i take it your definetly a TV.

Listen carefully.....


ANY MAN can put on a wig, a dress, and half a pound of makeup, go into divas or even post an ad on here and will get the same recognition as a transexual not a transgender, (there is a big difference between the two)

when all the while a real ts such as valeria or jemma or monique gets looked at like they arent the real thing,

as i said before OVER and OVER and OVER again, if its not yet a girl not even a woman its still a man,

cross dressers offer illusion

transexuals offer complete experiences

when the clothes come off these two, one does NOT look like the other...thats like vanity and jemma in the same room
maybe to a "tranny chaser" its totally fine but what do they care about? as long as you got something down there thats all that matters.

but seeing that i'm one with a high reputation with bad ass shemales I would know real from farce i dont give a crap how beautiful the makeup made you look. if your chest is flatter than mine and you do look like CD...YOU ARE A MAN

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18. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   like i said, people with a soft spot for Crossdresser definetly don't get AT ALL what i'm talking about,

maybe you should go to the EAST COAST you mite learn a few things about THE REAL THING, and not a quick pickup at divas,

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16. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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LAST EDITED ON 03-Aug-10 AT 03:13 AM (PST)
 
More CD's than TS? Maybe at PE, but never at Divas. Have you ever posted here under any other handles by chance?

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17. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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There is no doubt in my mind that male and female sexuality is a continuum, not an either or. I believe that we all have differing percentages of both sexes in us. The physical manifestation is one thing that is obvious in most people, but the psychological is another. We are all complex beings and have different needs, desires and feelings. The expression about "beauty being in the eye of the beholder" is quite true. But the bottom line is to be non judgmental regardless of what you see.

Maybe that’s why I love Divas. It’s a place where no one will judge you and you are accepted regardless of what you look like or what your personal style might be. On one level it’s a neighborhood club, but on another level it’s a safe haven for personal expression. Maybe that’s why its so very far from “main st”.
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20. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   No sweetheart truthfully a cd and a ts has nothing in common...its pure science, hormones and surgery and things of that nature whether we think its safe or not are essential to a transsexual woman that lives as such day to day. a CD doesnt hav to worry at all about things of that nature.

if something was to ever go wrong with a cd such as her look or whatevr, all he/she has to do is wipe it off and buy another, a ts would go to another length as far as her image which is more interesting. the softness, the femininity, the works. Besides, i can and hav taken a TS to a club to dinner even away for the weekend. A CD couldnt get away with half the things a TS could i mean maybe be more functional but any man without hormones can do that.....


and as for my love for the bay area, the only thing thats keeping me here my love is my job and my daughter, a CD or bad establishment in divas could never run me off

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21. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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   This has been another episode of, "I'm Right And You're A Faggot." Thanks for tuning in.

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22. "Whoever Main_St is im loving him!!"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Aug-10 AT 11:54 AM (PST)
 
Hey everyone specially Main_st,
I have been so out of touch with sfredbook for the last week or so and BOOM!!!!! I get flooded from with Calls and Texts about what a great post Main_st has been posting on here. When I came and read some of the stuff he wrote, My heart Sank. First I was excited to see that someone has the same opinions as I do about this board. THEN I GOT WORRIED. I thought that I bet the whole board think its Tabu posting under a different handle. SO no please dont think its me for as much of a potty mouth I was and I am, you know it gives me immense pleasure to trash talk with my own screenname. LOL I have balls...Literally!
As far as Bay area being a TS central for Asian and Latins, I guess no one has control over that demography. Bay area is a melting pot and who transitions in this city cannot be controlled.
Vanity Haze in my Humble opinion is a CD with no immediate plans to transition. She is just a mere gayboy who has figured out a way to make a quick buck by throwing on a wig and makeup. I have talked to her on the phone and she sound like an adolescent boy. Now please dont attack me for im not being shady. IM telling the truth and the facts. WHen i started transitioning, I turned from Caterpillar to butterfly within 3 months of hormones. Vanity Has been opn this board for I dont know how long yet we are yet to see any changes in her physique which are crucial to a body that takes female hormones. They are as follow:

1) A noticeable amount of weight gain specially in the facial muscles, hips, and breast. Vanity is flat as a washboard.

2) When one takes hormones, the speed of hair growth on the head increases substantially and after six months of therapy, one can get rid of the wig, and resort of half head hair pieces or semi extensions for the hair has grown to a length where it can be blended with false hair to give a more natural look. Vanity has done none of that.

3) When newly transitioned tses start working specially on this board, they keep updating thier pics week after week for it truly shows the progress they are making by taking hormones and becoming more feminine. The only thing we saw from vanity were high;y airbrushed professional shoot that might make her look feminine but when you go to her website and see her candid shots, you can see the teenage boy very clearly.


That said, Vanity might be young and Naive, but that doesnt mean we all are. Its ok to be a CD. Transitioning to a full time woman is not for everyone. And please do not think im attacking Vanity, im simply stating the facts.

Also yummyhungts AKA Fake ass bitch who has been 19 for the last 4 years need to lay off of my best friend asianprincess and need to resort to more permanent options to fool men such as surgical enhancements instead of airbrushing the fuck out of those pics.

Last but not the least, MAIN_ST has brought some great valid points about men on this board liking tvs much better than tses. NOt only here but when I go to Divas, i cant help but notice that all of my gorgeous ts friends and I sit in the corner and every man in there is paired up with a crossdresser or a drag queen. Thats another reason i hate going to Divas for i feel invisible. Its numbs my brain to see men ignoring gorgeous transsexual woman and chatting it up with CDs. Not that there is anything wrong with that but it tells you about the trend that men who like ts woman follow.

ALso Transsexuals live the harsh reality of true life facing the problems that comes with not only being a transsexual but also as being a woman in the society. CDS have the liberty to play the part of a fantasy girl behind closed door and go back to being something that they are comfortable being to begin with. We do not have that Luxury

Proof is in the pudding. Like Main_st mentioned in previous post on Vanitys thread, she has so many hits and so many reviews yet I have been a woman for seven years and I have only One review, Go figure!

Main_st I love you and your posts.

P.S. Kathyrose need to block yummyhungts and all her secondary screen names to ever post on this board. Yummyhungts is a hulligan only fit for a motel 6 rooms


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25. "RE: Whoever Main_St is im loving him!!"
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LAST EDITED ON 03-Aug-10 AT 12:36 PM (PST)
 
I second that Tabu , even thought I don't have any personal issues with any of the CD's or transsexuals mentioned in here. I found out that the red book men in here go coo coo for CD pops .
And what's up with all the gay boys posting in the TV/TS category ????. Why doesn't RB have a special section for gay boys!!!! ??? to post there add instead of mixing oranges with apples. As for Main_St , he has a very strong point of view of CD's and Transsexuals, and me being a transsexual, I agree with him .

Its not that easy to get where us TS are today. It took a lot of nip/tuck to get here.

Mia


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23. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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Huh,

What an odd black and white world you live in. Not too apart from those who claim that all TS women are still men, and the guys who like them sinful gay men. Just one slight step toward an inclusive view, but still quite bigoted.

I want to let you know that there is a lot more variance than you seem to think. I'll put myself up as an example. I've lived as a woman full time my entire adult life. Hormones, female name, presentation and all. Full time. I know at this point, due to an assortment of experiences, that I 'pass' as a woman the great majority of the time in day to day life. My gender isn't even a question in my day job.

And yet, when I go to Divas, and in some instances of talk here, due to my pics, I'm referred to as a CD, and not a 'real' TS. Which to me is kinda hilarious. Seems that since I don't have implants, only small home-grown variety breasts, it's assumed I'm pretty new to this, or not serious, or something. In the eyes of some, I'm 'still a man'. Despite, from my perspective, having never spent any time as a man.

Each different person who views this world has their own take. There's a diversity of views and a diversity of transgendered folk, and none of us fit nicely into little boxes thanks very much. The bay area also has a lot of racial diversity. You see a lot of asians and latinos because the bay area has a lot of asians and latinos.

As for the mix of 'real' ts versus cd/tv folks, well, I'd say that first that line is a lot blurrier than you seem to think, a lot of the girls you think are 'still men' are merely early in transition. But also, of course such a space has a certain amount of CD folk. It's one of the few places they can dress up and go out and feel welcome. At least by most of the crowd.

But the other thing is, if you want to be around fully passable, late transition ts women, go to -any club in SF-! We're out there, all the time, mixed in with everyone else. Just good luck spotting them. A lot of women who complete transition stop going to places like divas. They don't want to be seen as, or treated as TS anymore. The idea for many is to just be women and lead normal lives. The pro thing many do is a stepping stone because transition is expensive and hugely life-disruptive. Many lose jobs and friends, and hormones drive one a little crazy at first.

The reason why there are fewer full-on ts, full transition women doing pro work? because more of them are living the lives they want to be leading, instead. This means what remains are those who are starting out, those who are desperate, and those special wonderful and exceedingly rare few who really, actually enjoy the work.

Anyway, be well, and hopefully find more space for an open mind,

Love as thou will.

Gwenyth

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24. "RE: sHOULD BE CALLED ASIAN REDBOOK"
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Beautifully articulated Gwenyth.
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Angelique

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