http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJXR1wXofA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8NKpyT-Jlk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCLXMFlzukU

Mia

Born 27 August 1992, Cologne, Germany) is an aspiring German teen pop singer. She creates electronic dance pop music and is signed to independent record label Joyce Records. She has been the subject of extensive worldwide news media reporting regarding her transgender medical history in the context of her young age.Kim Petras was born on 27 August 1992 as Tim Petras. Her parents, Lutz and Konni, have said that from the age of two, she began insisting she was a girl. It slowly became apparent this was "not just a phase" and so her parents tried to be supportive but made her wear gender neutral clothes in public. Eventually her parents sought professional help but struggled to find people who were knowledgeable on the subject. In time they found Dr. Bernd Meyenburg at Frankfurt University who was head of a clinic for children and had studied transsexuality since the 1970s.

I saw Jennifer Leitham play a few years ago at an event in LA. Very inspirational.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

Who is the better off, in a personal way? The TS who whores her way to the top and burns out early? The TV, who still expresses her womanhood when she can, yet is a successful person in life?

I am writing this post because of the division that seems to be happening since a thread a few weeks ago. I like a level playing field.
KR

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID9/13608.html

P.S. U guys don't know how hard it is to write a post using my blackberry while driving through Canada. Goshhhh.

Mia

I was shocked at what Tabu and Mia had to say about TVs in that thread. Let me preface this by saying I do admire both of them for their beauty and intelligence. And I’ve met both of them in person in the past…Tabu several times at various venues and Mia once or twice many years ago when Divas first opened and she was still going by the name Gloria. As many of you know, I’m an older TV and during my brief conversations with both of them I sincerely felt that they had no animosity towards me (in fact they were extremely friendly and nice) or any other TV.

I’m not sure where Main_st, Tabu, and Mia got the impression that the men here on RB and at Divas prefer TV/CD’s over TS’s but it’s simply not true. Most of the TG’s who advertise here are TS and are the ones who are in greatest demand by the men. As for gay boys posting ads here, sure there are some but they are few in comparison. I doubt they get much action from those ads (and no, there is not a section for them in RB) since almost everyone here is not looking for gay men. Same is true at Divas. There’s plenty of variety but still the majority are TS. Some of the TV’s are working girls but most of us just go to hang out with our friends, other TV’s and male acquaintances, dance, shoot pool, have a few drinks, and watch the drag show. We’re not in any competition with the working girls nor do we intend to be. I fully understand that transitioning is a long and difficult process and I admire those who are committed and go through it. But that’s a separate topic altogether. I feel we should all have mutual respect for each other no matter where we are on the spectrum. Let’s not bash TV/CD’s and the men who like them for they are still in the minority and are of no threat to TS’s and TS lovers.

Most of the other guys and gals expressed their viewpoints on having tolerance and accepting diversity much better than I can so I recommend going back to that thread to re-read the posts.

Deanna

Thanks,

Deanna

KathyRose, I don't think I made my self clear. You misunderstood what I was trying to say about agreeing with Tabu and you are not the only one. I think I may have said it wrong. And I am not sure what you are trying to say either regarding my hatred. I have no hatred for myself or any one else for that matter. When I agreed with Tabu, I was in such a rush because the tread was ending soon and I wanted to make 25 and be able to post my point of view, which apparently came out wrong. The only thing I was trying to agree with Tabu was referring to the Gay Boys posting under the TS category. And when I say gay boys I was not referring to TV's, I was referring to the actual gay boys posing on the rb. I was saying that they need there own category. I don't see nothing wrong with that. You say that I have hatred, but then you closed the thread without giving me a chance to explain my self. I felt like you were trying to make me look bad on purpose. And again, there is no competition. Every one has their own soul. 

Regarding Diva's night club, tv's and clients, this is what I wrote to one of the rb members asking the same question. Remember this was a personal conversation between me and another RB member.

>Hi hun how are you? Of course it wasn't me posting as main 
>ST. Maybe I was not clear enough when I was backing up Tabu's
>post. I was doing it so quickly that I didn't want to miss 
>post number 25. What i meant to say was 
>" I was loving his point of view even though sometimes he 
>sounded out of line with some personal attacks, but hey, 
>Who doesn't on the RB? . I wanted to through my point of view 
>as well about most of the guys on RB really not caring if 
>we are feminine enough as long as we can get hard and cum. 
>Honestly they don't care, I have seen it with my on eyes! 
>What ever happen with the old days? Now a days any man with 
>A wig and a dress can do the job!!! 
>Now about Divas night club I honestly have nothing to say 
>about the place. When I used to go there, it was to have a couple 
>of drinks, meet up with people I have know for years. Boys and 
>girls I really don't pay attention what the guys are after 
>in there CD or TS's. because I'm there to have fun not to be 
>picked up! I don't want to sound mean, but I have been there 
>only because I choose too, not because I have too! And of 
>course I have my suspicious of main St. being a TS..... to 
>much anger was in side of him! hee hee! "

Now, my name is all over the place, making it sound as if I had hatred towards Tv's and clients . Kathy did not give me the change to clarify myself, by locking  the thread . To be honest , I was only  trying to  clear  my name from  the wrong messages circulating. I am hoping that this message will help to clarify my position and not leave too much of a misconception.

Sincerely.

Mia

P.S. I usually write with all the smily faces, but I was too upset today to even include them. Hee hee hee!

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And I was totally surprised when Tabu (in another thread) declared that the sole purpose of this forum is:

"P.S. Just a reminder, this is not a forum for future transsexual scholars and their personal achievements, this Forum is for whores who suck dick/get sucked/and fudge pack for a living."

Boy oh Boy, have I ever wasted a lot of time participating in a forum that I thought was to share ideas, learn about each other, and take an occasional foray into the pay for play aspect of transexualism. Guess I must have missed that disclaimer so many years ago when I started posting in here and in the Yahoo TV/TS Groups. Sure am glad Tabu straightened this out for all of us so we can get back to the proper focus and stop wasting time talking about all that other stuff.

As for Mia's last post I definitely resent being lumped with her group of men who don't care how lovely a girl is as long as she can get hard and cum. May be true for some but personally I am always appreciative when girl does her best to look great. I am always wary of posts that state that everyone in a particular group thinks and acts the same. Mostly just because it is rarely accurate. Truth is a lot of guys do appreciate a girl who can get hard and cum but they are much more likely to complain and post negatively about the many dishonest ones who say they can but cannot. Honesty in all aspects of these interactions is a big thing and it often suffers when the threads become about someones ego or hurt feelings.

Just my $0.02

Ray

And I certainly view this forum to be more than a place just for talking about sucking dick, etc.

Cal

Hope to see ya'll in chat when my schedule opens up again.

That said i rest my case. Have a great night everyone