Just trying to get some thoughts on what I should be looking for. Safety and security are my primary concerns. I have a hotel room, and it seems like outcall is safest from a LE standpoint, especially with a well reviewed provider. But I also might like to try an AAMP/AMP. I don't want FS at this point, so I was considering an outcall FBSM+ or limited menu at an AMP. The FBSM is attractive since I'd be nervous to walk into an establishment like an AMP (is that stupid?). It also seems a bit more like baby steps into the world of hobbying...

Any thoughts on the whole safety issue of outcall vs AAMP? FBSM (seems safer) vs. Escort? I gather that there was some LE shakeup earlier this summer, so maybe the AMPs are safer now. If anyone feels comfortable recommending a provider, it would be much appreciated -- if not, any advice is welcome.

thanks!

I will let others discuss your question regarding FBSM vs AMP as I’m not experienced with them. I’m an escort kind of guy.

However, one comment I would make is, it’s not just YOUR safety that is at issue. Providers need to feel safe with you. You may know who and what you are, but they do not.
Outcalls to a motel room is a big red flag to a provider from a hobbyist who is unknown to them and has no references.

Again, I just wanted to say welcome.

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When she arrives have the money in plain sight but don't mention it. You get undressed first. If you get a FBSM, when she starts with the massage, politely and gently touch her body, starting with legs. The idea is for you to initiate the action which should make her more comfortable with you. With an escort, if she hesitates, slowly initiate the action.

This approach would be very unlikely to result in any legal activity, and even if it did, there would be a very weak case against either of you. Since there was never any discussion of money or sex acts, it would be very difficult to prosecute for solicitation.

Happy hobbying.

While the AMP scene is not as safe, LE-wise, the chances of getting busted there are extremely slim almost to non-existent. Since you're not looking for FS, you'll pay the house fee plus @$60 (more for a BJ) for extras. YMMV comes into play in both instances.

I cannot comment on outcall. I have never been down that road yet.

I prefer incall as it makes the ladies feel more comfortable. Since, you said that you are not looking for FS, there are many to choose from.

I will tell you, I was very nervious the first few times. Heck, I still get alittle nervious although more confident, going into a new place to me. Even if it was legit.

May, I suggest getting a membership and do a search for what you are looking for. I think in the long run, you will be happier and enjoy the session more.

HighStepper - good reminder that the safety/security issue goes both ways

BigBill - thanks also for the newbie coaching. One of my whole reasons for asking this question was the fact that you mentioned: many good reviews = less risk, but me with no references means I may not get to see someone with many good reviews, or might not get the service i was expecting. I suppose though, that I'd rather take that risk. I'm not the type of person to freak out though, if that situation did come up (like some of the rants you read on this board) - I'm more the type to learn my lesson and move on.

Ideally, i'd probably like to see friendly well reviewed provider for a skilled head checkup ( i think that's the term that's used...) - and it seems there are plenty on here.

Just trying to figure out this balancing act of safety/security/service/newbie friendly.

But since you are only doing one or two times, your range of results could be from hell to heaven.

So it would probably be best if you go to AMP. You'll see multiple girls and you can get your picking. You'll get decent service.

If you do outcall FBSM, your range of service is grand canyon wide. You can have a flake. Or they can ROB. And if you get someone, there's a good chance that the provider is a 5 out 10 on the look side or service side. If you want top service, you'll have to shell out $$$$ or $$$$$ to get good service.

So if you want decent service at decent price, AMP is probably best without references. But if you are willing to paid top dollars, you'll get great FBSM, otherwise, outcall FBSM will misses more than hits.

AMPs: Fairly vulnerable to LE busts because of their street visibility. $30-50 for 1/2-1 hour massage which can be CMT quality but is usually fairly lame. About halfway into the session the RA asks you to turn over, and asks you (usually indirectly, but the intent is clear) if you want HJ finish. You negotiate a tip ($50-80) and she goes to work. You can usually feel her butt (clothed) and get your hands under her top for her boobs. There are some older RA's in the business, but all the ones I've seen have been young Asians and usually pretty.

FBSM: You can get outcall, but all of the best providers work out of their own place. There are a few houses like Temple of Bliss, but most are indies. LE busts are pretty rare but do happen. Practically all WASPs with a few Blacks and Latinos. Rates usually $180-$220. FBSM+ is a YMMV thing and sometimes extra $. Big difference between old school and new school providers. Old school: Usually 30-something, CMT massage, scripted session. Nude or sometimes with a thong only. Mutual touching common but definitely YMMV. New school: 20-something, minimal massage skills, but more sensual session usually including DATY, basically foreplay plus HJ.

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