Always Seeking.

> But I do appreciate providers who put that term in their ad. Makes it much easier to eliminate them from consideration instead of pouring thru their ad and reviews.

Yes. Amen.

> GFE, RB or otherwise, should always include DFK and BBBJ.

Again - Exactly right. Amen X 2

> There is so much bullshit around the term, GFE, that it has almost ceased to have any real definition.

???
But... you just DID define it.
Perfectly.
What's so confusing?
GFE includes DFK and BBBJ. Our work is done here.

Isn't most of the GFE "confusion" simply a matter of continually rejecting attempts by providers and hobbyists to misuse the term?

This applies to all the bogus qualifiers like: GFE Lite; Safe GFE; etc.

There may be controversy, or dissatisfaction, or whatever regarding the term - but that doesn't affect its definition.

To the point, when a new provider proclaims "I have my own definition of GFE" the best reaction is just like NealDown said:
if you want GFE, then eliminate them from consideration.

Simple.

???
But... you just DID define it.
Perfectly.
What's so confusing?
GFE includes DFK and BBBJ. Our work is done here.
>

Just to clarify, I said that the term GFE has almost ceased to have meaning because of the abuse of it in ads an reviews. Guys who say a provider was GFE but didn't DFK drives me out of my mind.

Me too.

(or at least, "further" out-of-my-mind )

Just consider what it would be like to have a similar bogus controversy about what "FS" means!

Anyone care for some tasty "Safe FS" ?? ...we'll just pretend to have sex!

It's bad enough when escorts post misleading ads listing GFE services (or even RBGFE) when they have no practical understanding for, or intention to provide, the actual service.

Hobbyists misusing the term makes it even worse, creating a false 'controversy' about GFE that confused or dishonest escorts & pimps leverage to their advantage.

One thing I've noticed is that the RB review template allows you to check multiple boxes for: GFE; CBJ; LFK; etc.

That makes it possible to mark a provider session as "GFE" with "CBJ" instead of "BBBJ".

That makes it possible to mark a provider session as "GFE" with "CBJ" instead of "BBBJ".~

That is an excellent point! I think the review template should be modified so it is mutually exclusive to check 'GFE' AND 'CBJ'. This would be a good suggestion for Red.

~Everything in moderation
including moderation

So what term would you describe girls who offer DATY, MSOG, DFK, but no BBBJ? They should somehow be differentiated from girls who do not offer such services. It would be great if there is a term to describe such services that is universally defined and consistently used, as this would save much time from having to pour through the reviews to get an idea of what services are offered. I think GFE Lite was intended to mean what I describe here but it has not been consistently used that way.

~Everything in moderation
including moderation

Here's a guy named "devilmaycare" who "...would not kiss a provider if my life depended on it..." !!

Thanks for the tip, DOCTOR NEWBIE.

Now that you've straightened me out, I plan to ignore 15+ years of enjoying fully satisfying GFE, no health problems whatsoever, married with kids the whole time, and take your advice: treat escorts like lepers.

People vary in their state of health, strength of immune system, and hygienic practices which cause a variation in their susceptibility to be negatively impacted by pathogens.
Just like some people are more prone to allergies than others.

When it comes to what sex acts to engage in, it is up to each person to decide for themselves what risks they wish to take.
Mutual masturbation while sitting across the room from each other is probably the safest way to go.

A thread that might be useful as a place to start when seeking information about the potential health risks involved in the hobby.

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/health/2104.html

Edit: There is nothing wrong about your position on what you would do with a provider, nor are what others doing is wrong, just different.

Of course you can expect to have your head handed to you if you come off preachy about it intimating that others who are different from you are wrong.

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Too much sex is still not enough

U either want GFE or you don't and GFE is what it is. Your replies to what guys want and contracting diseases are wayyyyyyyyy off topic

http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/general/42895.html#13

Please stay on topic

Ok, here's MY definition of all the GFE's out there:

NO GFE = duh

Light GFE = see NO GFE

GFE = see lite GFE and NO GFE

RBGFE = see GFE, lite GFE and NO GFE

They're all a bunch of lying bitches!

Seriously though, wouldn't it be nice if Scorpy's definitions were actually true in these ads?! Man it'd make my choices a lot easier! In my experience, the ads mean shit unless it says RBGFE. Otherwise, who knows what you're going to get...