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Enabler
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"I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
 
   Now before anyone jumps on me and tells me how stupid I am, I already know how stupid I am.

My point is that it seems like many providers are taking things closer to the "edge" in terms of unsafe sex and if I wanted to I could go in BB, I could most of the time.

Some providers that I don't know well,or are seeing for the first time I have been asked if I "wanted" to put on a condom. If I have an option then that scares me.

Maybe it is a YMMV situation and two times that I have done BBFS with a provider(both I had seen for over 2 years before)they swore that they are "clean" and they don't do this with anyone else.

I am not that naive when they say I am the only one they do this with. To me it is scary to think about. I just wonder what others are seeing out there.

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1. "RE: I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
In response to message #0
 
   LAST EDITED ON 10-Oct-09 AT 07:30 PM (PST) by (moderator)
 
Yeah, it happens and occasionally (very rarely) with someone I've seen a lot I've let the little head do the thinking for the big head - of course when I come to my senses I spend several weeks worrying about the consequences of my bad judgment. I've noticed if you see a given provider over and over, after awhile, I guess it produces some level of familiarity - it is also possible they are worried their client is going to get bored and move on unless they can give their client something 'extra'.

I don't think it is a very good idea (BBFS) but adults have to make their own decisions in assessing the risks they are willing to take (always remember there is NO risk-free, anything - getting out of the bed in the morning entails risk).

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2. "RE: I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
In response to message #1
 
   in one fell swoop, you are like a scythe to corn shedding some logic and sense on this subject. i partook once and didnt burst into flames. for a man, i dont understand what the difference is safety wise between bbfs, bbfj or daty?

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7. "bbfj?"
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   What is BBFJ?

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sexproject7 click here to view user rating
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12. "RE: bbfj?"
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   Well that's why the previous poster has the moniker - 'leftfordead'. He evidentally engaged in bbfj and is now at death's door awaiting the end ;) So, let this be a lesson for all of us ,,, No BBFJ, or YOU may be 'leftfordead' too!

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oralio click here to view user rating
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3. "BBFS Happens."
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Always has.

Always will.

Some will always condemn those who admit doing it.

Some will always tell the critics to stuff their moral indignation.

BBFS is human nature. Some do it, some don't. Who can really say it's changed?

Be the change
you wish to see

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General_Colon_Bowel
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4. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   Don't know about up north, but here in L.A. more and more of the Korean hotties are giving camel slides. A year ago, it was rare to get one, and now it's happening all the time.
Also, never had BBFS until a couple of weeks ago, when, during a camel slide, the provider I was with let a pop-in happen. Ooops. I got out pretty quickly but boy did it feel good. Can't tell you how much I just wanted to jam it in as far as I could and go full steam. But, the big head temporarily took over.

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skyblue
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5. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   LAST EDITED ON 11-Oct-09 AT 08:52 AM (PST)
 
What is a camel slide???

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General_Colon_Bowel
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6. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   A camel slide is when she grinds her bare pussy against your bare cock. Its usually in the CG position, and typically involves lube, so there is a chance of popping in. Most providers position themselves so there's no chance of sliding in, but others are not as careful.

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Rockout click here to view user rating
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8. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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New acronym. CSE. Camel Slide Experience.

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NUNZIO click here to view user rating
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9. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   >New acronym. CSE. Camel Slide Experience.

Or just "CS". And it does feel very good, she's rubbing her hot wet clit against your rock hard cock.

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imlegman2
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11. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   I thought this camel slide has practically same risk level as BBFS.

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13. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   CS already means caught stealing...

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10. "RE: BBFS Happens."
In response to message #3
 
>Always has.
>
>Always will.
>
>Some will always condemn those who admit doing it.
>
>Some will always tell the critics to stuff their moral
>indignation.
>
>BBFS is human nature. Some do it, some don't. Who can really
>say it's changed?

Thanks oralio, You caused me to pause and not respond with my typical 3 paragraphs of you don’t know if she does or doesn’t so that‘s why we wear condoms and quit worrying about what other people do or don’t do.

..........................................
Too much sex is still not enough

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14. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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   BBFS happens when you're a . with a death wish. Why would you fuck a babe who's fucking for cash? Why would you risk your life by fucking without a condon someone who's real name, address or medical history you don't know and don't want to know.

Nookie is good. We all like to wet tight young stuff but hey, fuck the dumb shit. It's great so shoot off in a really cute babe's mouth but fucking her without a condom is just plain dumb.

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18. "RE: BBFS Happens."
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>BBFS happens when you're a . with a death wish.
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Ok..lets take that as fact.

Now..tell us what you can catch via BBBJ, anal licking..and oh ya, throw in DFK as well.

If you're going to go in guns blazing on incredibly risky beheviour with sex workers with no mandated health requirement/check/etc, where do these fit next to the BBFS condemnation?


I DO expect a fair (if not huge amounts) amount of "But its MUCH safer..." but I do NOT expect "Its perfectly safe" for any of those.

But..BBFS with a needle-sharing crack whore with open vaginal sores is monstrously risky.

And compared to THAT, BBFS would be "quite safe" with someone not a user, with impeccable personal cleanliness..etc..etc..etc.


Just saying..a fair amount has to go wrong to catch anything, and if youre talking abotu AIDS being a for-sure death wish..well, I expect certain wording attached to rimming, DFK, BBBJ...all very possible ways to catch blood related diseases in/from areas easy to offer open access to, even if you dont know it.

Fujiwara tofu rocks!

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scorpy click here to view user rating
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15. "RE: I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
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Maybe you are a handsome stud loaded with cash and they want to have your baby.

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LanceP
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16. "This is nothing new"
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   It exists .

So simply make your choices as you will.

This lifestyle has risks AND variety of ALL sorts. Whatever you encounter or decide upon to completion is a choice of your own free will.

Enjoy, nevertheless,
Lance

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Kimmylover
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17. "RE: This is nothing new"
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   I was with an RA that I see on a regular basis a couple of weeks ago. Things were going very well when during a position move I noticed the cover on the floor, still rolled up.
I stopped and told her that the cover was on the floor but she said that was OK and that she forgot about it and wanted me to continue. I was tempted, and it felt good, but I stopped.
Took three showers a day for the next two weeks and told my SO that I thought I had the swine flu and to stay away from me.
KL

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19. "RE: This is nothing new"
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>Took three showers a day for the next two weeks and told my
>SO that I thought I had the swine flu and to stay away from
>me.
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I gotta know, what were the showers for?

Did you try garlic around your neck?


WWDD say about that? ('Doctor Dean' Edel)

Fujiwara tofu rocks!

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Client69
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22. "Reality Check"
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   First, when a provider asks if you “‘wanted’ to put on a condom”, that probably just means they want you to hurry up and move along to CFS, either because you are running short of time in your session, or possibly because your DATY or DFK technique is lacking. I wouldn’t read BBFS in such an offer.

Second, the current deep recession means desperate people doing desperate, unsafe, and unethical things – all the more reason to use condoms. If a desperate hooker ever tells you that you are the only guy she is offering BBFS to, that is almost certainly a lie (if you were really that “special” to her, then ask her to do the deed for free).

Sexually transmitted diseases are bad enough, but unwanted pregnancy could even be worse in the long-run (DNA testing, the “gift” that keeps on giving). BBFS with a hooker should never be an option - always use condoms.

Client69

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23. "RE: I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
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   I have said this before, and will say it again. If you are really that scared of BBFS you are working under the assumption the hooker has something life threatening or permanent (i.e HIV or Herpes or Hep C). Now you know condoms have only 90% effectiveness so if you really truly believe the girl is infected, you should not do her even with a condom.

Now when you think about it, and work out the probabilities,the chances of your getting infected from a single incidence of unprotected sex is very very small (especially with one of the big 3).

The girl on the other hand takes a greater risk as she as sex with many men per day.

Condoms are a great idea from the girls point of view to reduce risk but for the guy it has much less value. In other words the risk/benefit ratio for the guy is much lower than the girl.

And to the original post, yes BBFS is offered often, particularly in AAMPS but also by some indys.

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24. "RE: I am finding more Providers are open to BBFS"
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   BBFS is widespread in our hobby and promises like "I don't do this with anyone else are also common" These girls are risk takers and for them it is about making money and if BBFS makes them more money they will go for it.

From Enabler's post
I have done BBFS with a provider(both I had seen for over 2 years before)they swore that they are "clean" and they don't do this with anyone else.

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Client69
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25. "Probability vs Consequences"
In response to message #23
 
   Doing the math, the severe downside impact of sexually-transmitted diseases and/or unwanted pregnancy is so great, that no educated/intelligent guys should want to take such preventable risks with BBFS. The same cannot be said for the pimps/boyfriends of hookers – contemporary HIV infections (unlike the 1980s, when AIDS was portrayed as a gay white mens disease) has been substantial amongst the less-educated and minority groups (e.g. blacks and Hispanics), especially when statistically correlated with drug abuse. Stay safe brothers!

Client 69

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