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POLL: Which is safer to BBFS with?
Posted by oralio on 12-Oct-09, 04:41 PM PST
POLL ENDED: Result after a total of 24 votes

20-something college girl or girl of college age 15 votes, 62%
full-time RB provider (meaning that providing is her primary income) 9 votes, 37%

 
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oralio click here to view user rating
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1. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 04:45 PM (PST)
 
This is the first BBFS thread I've ever started.

I created this thread to make just one point, and one point only.

When I refer to the provider, I'm referring to the establshed RB providers of any genre.

Personally, if I had to choose between the two, I'll take the provider any day over the college girl.

College-age students and young people are walking petrie dishes. Of either gender.

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2. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   That might be the most illogical conclusion I've ever heard.
The risks of bbfs increases in direct proportion to the number of partners one has had.
Who do you think has had more partners, a pro or a civie?

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3. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 05:17 PM (PST)
 
You might want to give your logic machine a deep cleaning, because you're ignoring so many other factors.

20-somethings tend to have sex when drunk, when high, when marginally being coerced (questionable date rape that never gets reported), sex to treat self-esteem issues, sex to experiment, sex under some degree of social pressure, convenience sex, sex to counter loneliness,sex with poor self-control, sex under conditions of ignorance or denial of risk..... plus some.

Established RB providers tend to have sex under the most controlled circumstances. The odd circumstance of an inebriated provider doesn't change that.


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7. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   "20-somethings tend to have sex when drunk, when high, when marginally being coerced (questionable date rape that never gets reported), sex to treat self-esteem issues, sex to experiment, sex under some degree of social pressure, convenience sex, sex to counter loneliness,sex with poor self-control, sex under conditions of ignorance or denial of risk..... plus some."

Well, that really depends on the individual, doesn't it? Convenience sex and sex to counter loneliness seem to be pretty universal IMHO.

Having sex with hookers implies questionable judgment on behalf of the john regardless of his age.

On the other hand most 18-22 college age girls would not be happy about an unplanned pregnancy and are probably on birth control, and MIGHT insist on a party hat, more frequently than your average street walker or RB escort. I am sure that every SW/escort is barebacking a few wealthy clients even if she adamantly denies it.

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16. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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And this provider..was never a party girl in college either..and LESS of a petri dish, how?

I'll give you $50 to call Dr. Dean live on this one, just to hear his response.

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18. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 10:51 PM (PST)
 
Fuck the 50bux.
And the response is very obvious: DONT FUCKING DO IT.
Of course he won't use the bleep word to respond.
But thats the general gist of it.
Safety first.

However, I am with the OP's train of thought on this one.
Just because we think "it", doesnt mean we're wrong either.
Respect my opinion and I'll respect yours.

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19. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 10:57 PM (PST)
 
I am so very with you on this one:

>20-somethings tend to have sex when drunk, when high, when
>marginally being coerced (questionable date rape that never
>gets reported), sex to treat self-esteem issues, sex to
>experiment, sex under some degree of social pressure,
>convenience sex, sex to counter loneliness,sex with poor
>self-control, sex under conditions of ignorance or denial of
>risk..... plus some.
>

Back in 1999, I was playing around with this asian-mix, 19year old little hunny that just started experimenting with her body. Of course she's got daddy issues and that is why she was attracted to me and guys like me. When I did seperate from her, I was told(later on)about her frolicking with the young studs at work. (No, she wasnt in college). So case in point, she gave away BBBJ's and the works like it was nothing to her.
(Liked her tatoo's tho...)

Anyhoo, Am glad I wasnt around for sloppy seconds of that.

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6. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   Oralio, I can't disagree with you more. Just from a "numbers" perspective, you are statistically much more likely to get something from an RA. (Also, you are assuming College gals are unsafe, which may or may not be true, just as some RAs may be safe or unsafe.

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15. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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>College-age students and young people are walking petrie
>dishes. Of either gender.
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So..the older FT provider, is LESS of a petri dish...how?

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4. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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I agree that if you had to go BB with a provider, the pro would probably be safer in that she, generally, gets tested regularly. But I still would have included a third option along the lines of NFW.

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5. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 06:30 PM (PST)
 
LIke I said, Neal, I had only one point to make.

The last thing we need is another open-ended BBFS thread.

EVERYONE knows the risks. EVERYONE knows why people still do it. The rest is bullshit moralizing and lying to impress providers. Driving is far, far riskier than BBFS. But like BBFS, some types of driving are riskier than others. Nothing personal.

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11. "RE:Aye"
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   >
>EVERYONE knows the risks. EVERYONE knows why people still do
>it. The rest is bullshit moralizing and lying to impress
>providers. Driving is far, far riskier than BBFS. But like
>BBFS, some types of driving are riskier than others.
>Nothing personal.

Simple, isn't it?

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24. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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Point taken and acknowledged. I only hope that hobbyists & providers who indulge make sure to get tested for STDs at least 3 or 4 times a year.

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22. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   <<the pro would probably be safer in that she, generally, gets tested regularly>

These women can barely keep the lights turned on.......and you think they are tested regularly?


PZA

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8. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 07:53 PM (PST)
 
I think it is safe to assume both providers are offering BBFS to other men too.
So I do not see much reduction of risk by seeing one group over the other.

I am also really disturbed by the mentality of people who offer BBFS in this day and age .. not just for her risks... but the way she is putting others in serious risk as well... so their minds scares me away before I can even evaluate the risk.

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12. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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But Po, how can you be sure all the providers you may see don't BBFS with others?

Of course, if you don't have oral or coital sex with them, i suppose it doesn't matter.

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9. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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With the information we have and making some informed assumptions:

Provider = more risk of STD.
College girl = more risk of getting her pregnant.

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10. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   Did anyone tell you that unprotected sex is like Russian Roulette?

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13. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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So is riding in passenger vehicles.

Do you regularly seek alternatives to riding in cars?

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21. "RE: on the road again"
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   Riding in cars? Would that be like driving an old Ford Pinto, without seatbelts fastened, after a couple of shots of Vodka (as opposed to a modern Volvo or Mercedes, with side-impact airbags, after plenty of rest and no booze/drugs)? Risk-takers have plenty of unsafe options on the road - statistically, the odds eventually catch up with risk-takers.

Client69

>So is riding in passenger vehicles.
>
>Do you regularly seek alternatives to riding in cars?

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14. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 08:36 PM (PST)
 
>Did anyone tell you that unprotected sex is like Russian
>Roulette?

Nope, never heard that, it's misinformation though. It honestly scares me the ignorance some people spread regarding health safety. Especially considering the availability and importance of said information.

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17. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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>Did anyone tell you that unprotected sex is like Russian
>Roulette?
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With how many 10s of 1000s of chambers, and one bullet?


BBBJ is like Russian Roulette too, and rimming...

I dont see the panic in those...

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20. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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Correct me if my hunch is wrong on this one: But I do beleive that that pro-women tend(or should be)on the more "careful" of the subject group here. Yes or no?

Call me stoopid or old fashoned or whacked. But I tend to beleive that pro's are more health conscious when it comes to sex. As opposed to some bimbo at a meat market who's out to get laid like a guy. And I would also harness the lesser of those females into the same category. Im talkin about ladies "not so" aggressive or "not as" aggressive, sexually?

On a related note. in the military, the worst candidates that have STD's are the ones that are in the medical field. Believe it or not, that is fucked up isnt it?

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23. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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LAST EDITED ON 12-Oct-09 AT 11:59 PM (PST)
 
Yes.

And many here disregarded my definintion of providers = "the establshed RB providers..."

Not just any street ho or CL motel girl or RB newcomer. But who ever said RB posters are good readers?

Just the fact alone that established RB providers aren't drunk or high when having sex increases the safety from better judgment. Plus their RB reps, plus their professional longevity and monthly income depend on being able to continue to have sex. Each sex act an extablished RB provider has tends to be a considered act, often screened and tested during the warmup, not something based on a decision made in a loud bar at midnight.

I now work around many 20-something men and some women. Most of them eventually talk about having sex as singles or outside their relship. Most of them regularly have sex unprotected, though they usually use other kinds of birth control, and they all claim to use condoms occasionally. Plus I remembered when I was college age....people only used condoms for pregnancy.

As for military in the med field, when I was in the military it seemed like most of the men in medical were gay.


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25. "RE: Which is safer to BBFS with?"
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   Definately the co-ed if she is careful and doesn't want to hop into bed the first meeting or only will with protection. If she's willing to do bbfs withing knowing anything about me, no thanks.

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