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"Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
 
Take the poll - link http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/312283/legalize_prostitution_shocking_poll.html?cat=17 article and poll by Dan@Jennifer http://www.askdanandjennifer.com/

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1. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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> Take the poll - link
>http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/312283/legalize_prostitution_shocking_poll.html?cat=17
> article and poll by Dan@Jennifer
>http://www.askdanandjennifer.com

It should be legalized then the unemployment rate would go down and it would be easier to find some hot babes for sale with a much wider variety of selections of different ethnic cultures/ groups and ages.

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2. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   I guess men want it, so LE don't bother them. Women want it, because it increases their career options. I guess win win. Morality don't want it, because we can stray, but if we think about it, we sinned already. I am a sinner.

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3. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   Hell no! No one who has ever been to a legal brothel in Nevada would ever want the hobby the way it exists in California to turn into that - the horror! De-criminalize it, but dont make it a legal profession. The tax man, regulators, and lawyers would be all over it like flys on shit. Prices would rise because of this for sure.

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8. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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Nevada is a very poor example of legal prostitution. It's a monopoly controlled by a small number of people. All it is amounts to a legal license to take 50% of a working girl's income while at the same time calling the working girl an independent contractor. If the Nevada brothel system was that great, you wouldn't have 250 times the number of girls working independently as opposed to working in the brothels. The only thing that Nevada does right is requiring regular testing for STD's and requiring condoms.

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9. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   >Nevada is a very poor example of legal prostitution. It's a
>monopoly controlled by a small number of people. All it is
>amounts to a legal license to take 50% of a working girl's
>income while at the same time calling the working girl an
>independent contractor. If the Nevada brothel system was
>that great, you wouldn't have 250 times the number of girls
>working independently as opposed to working in the brothels.
>The only thing that Nevada does right is requiring regular
>testing for STD's and requiring condoms.

Well, the other thing they do right is having comfy parlors where you can hang out and interact socially with the girls and other customers while making your choice. It's a lot of fun.

That said, it's not a very good system overal, for the reasons you mention.

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10. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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When looking at some of the prices, women in legal brothels charge, I'll pass on the comfy parlors. When I watch Cathouse, I almost shit my pants at the thought of what some customers pay so some brothel owner can ride around in a Mercedes smoking a big cigar.

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15. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   >When looking at some of the prices, women in legal brothels
>charge, I'll pass on the comfy parlors. When I watch
>Cathouse, I almost shit my pants at the thought of what some
>customers pay so some brothel owner can ride around in a
>Mercedes smoking a big cigar.

After I saw a Cathouse episode I checked out that trailer
facility called Bunnyranch.I saw the fat bald pimp there
groping his hookers.The hookers were nasty looking with
all the same look,fake blonde and pimp branded tattoos.
Outlaw Nv brothels like in Canada and give girls work cards
that ensure std tests and then they pay taxes there.By the
way all Bunnyranch hookers wanted $1000 and up per hour.

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20. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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>Hell no! No one who has ever been to a legal brothel in
>Nevada would ever want the hobby the way it exists in
>California to turn into that - the horror! De-criminalize
>it, but dont make it a legal profession. The tax man,
>regulators, and lawyers would be all over it like flys on
>shit. Prices would rise because of this for sure.
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And that's why a $1 burger at McD's is too expensive for you, right?


I mean, with all of that taxation, regulation, and lawyering going on behind it.


Fujiwara tofu rocks!

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4. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-Oct-09 AT 11:18 AM (PST)
 
"legal" ala Nevada no

"legal" ala some European countries and New Zealand yes


Also let's think in terms of what is American and what this country is about.

Do we want LE telling us what we can and can not do in private between consenting adults?

My answer is NO.

Also we must think little deeper, what if there is an incall near your new home you just bought.. paying high mortgage ? Are you going to be able to just ignore this or
be a hypocrite and call LE on them?

Can you support and accept this in your own neighborhood?

My answer is YES.

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5. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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   >Do we want LE telling us what we can and can not do in private between consenting adults?

In extenso you would have to be against the government dictating health care as well, right?

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6. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-Nov-09 AT 02:37 AM (PST)
 
LE does not dictate what we can and can not do in private between consenting adults.

Supposedly the electorate, the body of people entitled to vote (us), are selecting and electing persons who they/we feel most closely mirror their/our ideas and values to represent them/us within various legislative bodies.

It's those characters we've elected and sent off to Sac and DC that have been, and will continue, to write the laws that LE is sworn to uphold.

What does that tell "us"?

I guess it means that either we suck at choosing our representatives, or that we advocates of decriminalized or legal prostitution are, at least in theory, out numbered.....For now.

Or is it neither of the two, and we are simply as a matter of course, always deceived by our candidates, and subsequently misrepresented?

Everything comes in cycles. Someday legalization and/or decriminalization of prostitution will be a reality in California.

For now, it is easiest to blame the whole mess on the Religious Right. I really don't think they mind anyway.

And they'll probably take most of the heat when the government finally does get it's finger in the pie, takes over the business and fucks it up too.
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EDIT: I liked this guy's comment down the page from the article.


"Is everyone on here retarded. Does anyone not see the biases inherent in an open poll that is not performed based on a statistical representation of the population. Although I agree with the majority of those who participated I can't stand bad science/statistics."

Posted on 08/09/2007 at 8:08:00 AM

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7. "never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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   it will never be legalized ever ever ever and will never happen as long as 50% of population is female. Get it duh!!! Plus it would then lose much of its appeal because it would no longer be taboo. The fact we do it behind closed doors sneaking around hotels is part of the allure right?

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11. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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All we have to do to find the right model for legalized prostitution is look outside the US. The best example in my experience is Argentina.

From Wikipedia:

"In Argentina prostitution itself (exchanging sex for money) is legal, according to Article 19 of the Constitution: private actions that in no way offend order and public morals or do damage to a third party are reserved to be judged by God and fall outside the competence of judges"

I travel there fairly frequently. My ATF is there, and she is the sexiest woman I have even been with. All I have to do is email her ahead of time - we then spend the week having the time of our lives.

No LE, no moral judgements, no gov't taxes or regulation. And here is the best part - $120/hr for the best sex I have ever had.

This system puts our US moral majority culture to shame.

Q.E.D.


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12. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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   I rather like the establishments they have in Germany. Actually, I just arrived back in Deutschland for more carnal pursuits. Other countries like Spain & Portugal are OK. We could learn a bit from the "country of the future", Brazil. Argentina isnīt as good as Brazil - IMO, but far better than the USA.

Unfortunately, most Americans are too uptight and moralistic about sex. Prostitution will remain a taboo and outlawed profession for decades to come. Even if by some miracle it was legalized, I doubt it would be any good. Just look at how it is in Nevada.

- DSK
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13. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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Actually, it used to be pretty damn good in Nevada, I banged many girls there, in the cathouses. What happened is that the "quality" has REALLY gone south. Most girls got smart and went independent. Someone mentioned here that they basically only get to keep half of the profits, if that, which is very true....it was also what I was told when I talked to the girls there a few yrs back. Yes they are expensive,expect to pay from $120(the cheapest Ive found) to easily over 1000(way out of my league), but at least you don't have to watch your back for L.E. To each his own, I guess. I'm still in FAVOR of LEGALIZING Prostituiton, I don't want the FUCKING Government,Obama, Bush, or whatever dickhead politician telling me if I can or can't pay for sex. It's my money you fucking politicians.
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14. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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   LAST EDITED ON 19-Nov-09 AT 03:44 AM (PST)
 
"What happened is that the "quality" has REALLY gone south. Most girls got smartand went independent. Someone mentioned here that they basically only get to keep half of the profits, if that,
which is very true....it was also what I was told when I
talked to the girls there a few yrs back. Yes they are
expensive,expect to pay from $120(the cheapest Ive found) to
easily over 1000(way out of my league), but at least you
don't have to watch your back for L.E. To each his own, I
guess. I'm still in FAVOR of LEGALIZING Prostituiton"


I'm in favor of it being legalized as well. It would make it safer for the ladies and everyone involved. But hopefully a system that's better than what they have in Nevada. As far as spending $500/hr+ to have sex with a grandma; I'll save that money for my next trip to Thailand - thank you. Hell, we have a better system than that here in the Bay Area where it is illegal. Something's wrong with that picture.

Doesn't really matter, because all the moralists & femi-" ". will never allow it to happen. Wasn't Prop K crushed in San Francisco just a few months ago? And that city is supposed to be a hot bed of progessive thinking. Give me a break.

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18. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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   >Actually, it used to be pretty damn good in Nevada, I banged
>many girls there, in the cathouses. What happened is that
>the "quality" has REALLY gone south. Most girls got smart
>and went independent. Someone mentioned here that they
>basically only get to keep half of the profits, if that,
>which is very true....it was also what I was told when I
>talked to the girls there a few yrs back. Yes they are
>expensive,expect to pay from $120(the cheapest Ive found) to
>easily over 1000(way out of my league), but at least you
>don't have to watch your back for L.E. To each his own, I
>guess. I'm still in FAVOR of LEGALIZING Prostituiton, I
>don't want the FUCKING Government,Obama, Bush, or whatever
>dickhead politician telling me if I can or can't pay for
>sex. It's my money you fucking politicians.
>281

Some old timers told me up until the mid 80's,bbbj and
full service without a condom were legal in Nevada brothels.
They said Mustang had some hot hookers and most guys spent
under $100 per visit.I missed that era,today the brothels suck.

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17. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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Prostitution was legal before. - 19th century over 200 brothels in lower Manhattan. New Orleans 1897 "The District" or Storyville at its peak had some 1500 prostitutes and 200 brothels! From 1890 to 1982 the Dumas brothel in Butte Montana was America longest running house of prostitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumas_Brothel In the USA each state (not a Federal Goverment in Washington DC) has the power to decide whether or not prostitution is legal in that state or part of that state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States

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19. "RE: never happen, regardeless of a vote here"
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   >The fact we do it behind closed doors sneaking around hotels is part of the allure right?

You and me, babe! You and me! It's not about getting off at all. Never has been. It's the thrill of the illicitness. The risk of getting beat up by Guido the killer pimp. I don't know why no one else here seems to recognize this...

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16. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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LAST EDITED ON 22-Nov-09 AT 00:08 AM (PST)
 
Three comments

1) You do realize this article and related poll was written in 2007.
2) Like many, decriminalize the activity. Like many, I don't like or agree with the Nevada method. The Montreal method works much better.
3) <slight ramble> Speaking of Nevada, rumors about the ownership of various strip club venues has persisted for some time and I'd assume the same thing exists in the NV brothel market space. While the current Nevada business model is not very popular or profitable, except for the Bunny Ranch brothel owner Dennis Hof, is it not possible to come up with a different approach to brothels to make them client friendly and less sleazy? Personally I think Hof is a front man for something bigger. (I could be wrong and I'm not playing into conspiracy theory. I just see a possible parallel btwn the Moonlight Bunny Ranch and say "Deja Vu".) Seemingly there are other forms of brothel that would be quite popular to mongers, profitable to the girls and the owners.

Why haven't we seen a . . .
...JP-LOS style soapy?
...HK/Macau health spa?
...Brazilian Terma?
...German FKK here?
...Lolitas (BJ Bar)?
...Melbourne Daily Planet? (Hell this company is publicly traded. They can afford it.)
...a Porn Studio (shoot your own with instant STD testing on premises)
...swingers resort like a Hedonism with p4p (think the old edgewater but nice)

In short, higher volume, lower priced, quality services can be sold effectively to a monger environment in close proximity to Sac/Tahoe/Reno, Vegas, Lake Havasu/Laughlin or Salt Lake/Park City (West Wendover, NV is about an hour drive from SLC and Elko is a little bit farther). IMO, there must be some form of collusion between state of NV and some form of organized racketeering in the brothel business. Even with that taken into account, seemingly the Yakuza or the Tong could open up or buy out an existing place to effectively compete with the existing places.

Certainly there must be an MBA on here that can defend this logic.

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UPDATE: I just checked and I didn't realize that Laughlin was also in Clark County which negates the possible brothel in Laughlin (too bad).

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada

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21. "RE: Legalize Prostitution Poll result Are In.- 86%Yes, 13%No"
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Legalize it so we can move on to bigger issues. H...critical Bureacrates.

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