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General_Colon_Bowel
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"Healthy Mongering?"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 20-Nov-09 AT 01:49 PM (PST)
 
Bonniesan, in the latest BBFS thread stated, "shame some of us here aint into healthy mongering." Healthy mongering doesn't exist. It's like saying "shame some of us here aint into healthy cigarettes."

Every act with a provider carries a level of risk. Even if you are covered, you can still get herpes, or syphilis. or warts. Daty, bbbj, dfk, lfk, are all out of the question. I know a guy whose anus got cut when a provider put her finger in his pooper and he got a nasty infection.

Anything that carries a health risk can't be healthy - unless you count stress release, endorphin and dopamine benefits - but you can get those from whacking off.

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bonniesan
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1. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
In response to message #0
 
   >Bonniesan, in the latest BBFS thread stated, "shame some of
>us here aint into healthy mongering." Healthy mongering
>doesn't exist. It's like saying "shame some of us here aint
>into healthy cigarettes."
>
>Every act with a provider carries a level of risk. Even if
>you are covered, you can still get herpes, or syphilis. or
>warts. Daty, bbbj, dfk, lfk, are all out of the question.
>I know a guy whose anus got cut when a provider put her
>finger in his pooper and he got a nasty infection.
>
>Anything that carries a health risk can't be healthy -
>unless you count stress release, endorphin and dopamine
>benefits - but you can get those from whacking off.

what i meant was, its the customers aka US who ask or actually insist on going raw..nobody is going to give u a free lunch in this world unless u ask..
of course, there is a risk in every act, but more often its us aka MEN who let the small head rule over the big head situation.
its very easy to type in the forum , like oh i was being offered , but come on, we all know its us who actually ask the gals , can we do it raw instead..
lets not kid ourselves..thats why i actually hope everyone is being responsible

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2. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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It is not up to you or me to “hope everyone is being responsible.” We can’t control what other people do or don’t do. Each person must determine what level of risk they are willing to take and act accordingly.
I use condoms because I don’t really know what others might have done.


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Too much sex is still not enough

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bonniesan
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3. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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   i agree with ya.. ^^

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10. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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   What you say is true, but in addition to that, that same uncertainty works both ways, because it is also in the nature of infectious diseases that any risk that people take on for themselves really may in turn put other people at risk as well. The fact that lots of people spread disease without knowing that they are infected means that the level of risk for yourself is really not just your own risk. You also potentially put others at risk.

The real problem that I have with the irresponsibility of BB sex in these cases is that people seem to rationalize it by arguing that since everything has a risk, one should just throw caution to the wind, as if all risks were of the same order and as if and there were no such things as probabilities. The fact that something "could" happen in two different instances doesn't mean that the probability that it will happen is the same in every instance; in fact, the probabilities can be different to of an order of magnitude, or maybe several orders of magnitude, depending on what you do. If you can dramatically cut down the risk of something bad happening by something so simple as wearing a condom, you don't only reduce the risk to yourself, but to others as well. Sure, I could get run over by a bus tomorrow, but that doesn't mean I therefore run into the street without looking both ways first. After all, everything is risky, so take a precaution before I cross the street? The "everything is risky so why bother" argument is just a rationalization, pure and simple.

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4. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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The only risk I take is DFK, and I rarely do this. There must be a real attraction for this to happen, and only after we know each other awhile. There have been a few times where an immediate attraction brought some serious dfk. I just run with that. I don't prefer BBFS or BBBJ. I don't eat provider pussy or anus. I don't want her peeing on me or farting. I don't need her to eat my asshole or stick her finger in my ass, what the hell is that?

Just simply to enjoy her body while we are have sex is all I need. I am muscular and always clean. STD-free, I prefer to play safe absolutely.

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Vaseline
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6. "I am muscular and always clean."
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   I'm sure that is pertinant to the discussion, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how. I do admit to being in the "slow group," unlike too many around here, so perhaps someone can explain it to me.

Oh yea, I am not muscular, but I'm still clean, especially my ass.

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7. "RE: I am muscular and always clean."
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   any sexual act with ANYONE is a risk. So whether you see providers or you pick up the drunk girl at the bar you are at risk. In some ways that drunk girl can be more of a risk...who knows if the last guy she went home with was drunk also and they did everything BB (be his insistence or their combined drunkeness).

You can meet a girl at the supermarket who could give you an STD (hopefully not from just squeezing the melons)...

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TantricPlayer
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9. "RE: I am muscular and always clean."
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   Yeah, but "sex" is a very broad topic area. When Bill Clinton says it, he means FS; when I say it, I'm thinking anything from my own masturbation through an orgy. I try to keep it as safe as possible. Handjobs only and if a finger goes up my ass, it's covered. I don't do frottage and no CBJ or DFK, or anything else I would probably love to do. Is there risk with that? I suppose there always is some risk of something, like catching swing flu. But is there a risk to an STD - no one ever wants to say because it always comes back to full-on sex that is never safe even with a condom (given warts, crabs, broken condoms).

I've been with providers who say (lie?) that they've never had anything and tend to keep it that way. Who knows?

I've also been on medical sites where docs say that no one ever got an STD at a clothes on hand job massage place...and then again, who knows?

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8. "RE: I am muscular and always clean."
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Mentioned only to say that it adds to the positive experience of the session (because of her appreciation) without having to take risks doing BB to "enhance" the pleasure. It's a "pertinent" aspect of my safe experience.

You're not muscular, so I can see why you'd have a problem with someone saying that. It's Ok. Really. At least you're clean in the ass area where it matters to you. Good for you.

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11. "You're not muscular"
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   Worked! Took it like a fish on a lure!

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12. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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Some dudes will pay extra to have the woman fart in their general direction.

Who am I to judge?

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13. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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   Just simply to enjoy her body while we are have sex is all I need. I am muscular and always clean. STD-free, I prefer to play safe absolutely.

I am very muscular and always very clean.

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14. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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   For "Healthy Mongering" I bring carrots & celery with me.

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15. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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I start out naked. When the time is right. I put on my boxers and put condom on. Put my penis through the opening and button the boxers around my penis. This will protect against the skin to skin contact. It will protect you better from warts, herpies ect. Guys who care about their health with do this. Most guys never thought of this.

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16. "RE: Healthy Mongering?"
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>Bonniesan, in the latest BBFS thread stated, "shame some of
>us here aint into healthy mongering." Healthy mongering
>doesn't exist. It's like saying "shame some of us here aint
>into healthy cigarettes."
>
>Every act with a provider carries a level of risk. Even if
>you are covered, you can still get herpes, or syphilis. or
>warts. Daty, bbbj, dfk, lfk, are all out of the question.
>I know a guy whose anus got cut when a provider put her
>finger in his pooper and he got a nasty infection.
>
>Anything that carries a health risk can't be healthy -
>unless you count stress release, endorphin and dopamine
>benefits - but you can get those from whacking off.


Jacking off is the safest.

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