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Buck2161 click here to view user rating
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"SW? Provider? or Both?"
 
   I was just curious on this matter. Is it fair to say that it's ok for
a SW to post as a provider when she is working out of her motel and on the streets at the same time? What are your thoughts?

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1. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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Yes, and it is very common.

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2. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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Yea I don't see a problem with it either.

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3. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   So there's no difference between a true honest provider and a SW? I thought rb was for providers and craigslist was for hookers? LOL

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4. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   There's an awful lot of providers who do a little street walking when things are slow and they need some quick cash. There's really no way to tell if a given person has ever done it.

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6. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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A lot of sws post on rb as well as other websites all over...
I've seen that some sws don't post their rates on their ads sometimes.
I don't think it is right for a sw to give a bj for .50 or fs for .80 bucks and next thing you know you see an ad she is on asking for top dollar...



Plenty Fish In The Sea

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7. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   I agree with stroker a little. Why pay 200 an hour for what you can get for 40-50? I see a lot of sw in Salinas with ads. Won't go there.

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12. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   Let me get this straight. A girl can bring in paying customers at $$/hr, but truth-in-advertising requires her to disclose that if the dumb schmuck can wait until 2:15am on Friday night when the room is no longer available to her, if he can catch her, he can get more or less the same services in the comfort of his beater pick-up truck, or on the hood of his pick-up truck, without the benefit of a shower, out in some alley way off some gawd-forsaken nasty neighborhood, for maybe .2 or .4?

Choose your venue and do your due diligence either way or not. She's either worth what you paid or not. Bad enough if you have access to these forums and still can't figure out how to find the good ones for your money. Like nails on a chalk-board when you come here and complain about getting "duped" by a girl when you find out she charges less on the street.

TJWrong

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18. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   Nope, CL is now the official site of all bait and switch, rip-off artists; chicks with dicks who are hoping you won't notice or care; and humongously large and sweaty girls who price themselves based on which fold that you'd like to penetrate.

RB is for legitimate service providers - regardless of whether they're walking the street, situated at an in-call location or willing to come to you...now, if we could only get everyone concerned to hold that important distinction foremost in their minds!

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25. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
In response to message #18
 
   >humongously large and sweaty girls who
>price themselves based on which fold that you'd like to
>penetrate.
>
>RB is for legitimate service providers - regardless of
>whether they're walking the street, situated at an in-call
>location or willing to come to you...now, if we could only
>get everyone concerned to hold that important distinction
>foremost in their minds!

Well I agree with ya, but dam..That first bit...lets just say you should not drink and surf...You owe me a new keyboard!!!!

Hoss...

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5. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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I've never seen an ad here where a provider has said that she is working a particular stroll. However, since many are outcall only it wouldn't surprise me that if you called enough girls, you would get that type of provider once in awhile.

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8. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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It is my belief it speaks to the duality of mankind.

Is anybody really just one thing?

I think not.

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9. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   if you check out the street action forum, girls come in there from time to time and declare where they will be walking that night. some have ads some dont. i would pay more for sw who has an incall because its safer for me. most dont really charge top dollar in their ads.

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10. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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I frankly don't care. If she looks like her pics, has a safe incall, and can deliver, I'll gladly partake.

There was a black provider I dated once in the TL. I think her name was Yanna or something like that. She was built. Beautiful ass and legs. Wish I could find her again. If she called me, I wouldn't care if she were working the streets at the same time. It would be a treat to see her anyway she comes.

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11. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   I am more out to support the honest providers on rb. It's kinda deceiving if you don't know. RB used to be mainly for providers and now you see more sw advertising on rb since the cl drama. And wouldn't it make you feel kinda robbed if you saw a girl for 200 fs. And then a buddy tells you he saw the same girl on the street for 50?

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13. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   i wouldnt feel bad because i dont have the guts/am afraid of the first time offender "johns' program" to pick up a woman on the street. to those who do and get a good value, more power to em!

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22. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   I'm in the same boat as leftfordead....if it wasn't for the internet I probably would have never started this hobby. I would never attempt to pick up a SW due to fear of LE or being seen in an area known for soliciting prostitutes. I like the idea of being able to call a provider two hours ahead of time to schedule an appointment in a safe discrete location. With that said, I really don't have a problem if a provider is a SW and Escort at the same time as long as her pics are accurate, she is discrete and delivers good service in a safe location.

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24. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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LAST EDITED ON 05-Feb-10 AT 01:33 AM (PST)
 
No, I wouldn't feel robbed. I got what I wanted for a price that I was willing to pay. Like many others, not interested in the risks of being caught picking up a SW. If my buddy got her for 50 along with the risks, good for him.

To me a dishonest provider is one who requires a reference, only to use it to weed out blacks and hispanics, while implying in her ads that she services anyone (like this provider http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID2011/55246.html). Or a provider who posts fake pics, or doesn't deliver as promised or advertised. Not a provider who supplements her RB activities with some street action or vice versa.

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14. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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LAST EDITED ON 01-Dec-09 AT 02:18 AM (PST)
 
> I was just curious on this matter. Is it fair to say that
>it's ok for
>a SW to post as a provider when she is working out of her
>motel and on the streets at the same time?

A SW is a provider. Is she not?

Sometimes a very good, fine looking one. Sometimes cool, un-jaded, interesting, and pleasant. Even sweet. Sometimes with low, or even no 'mileage' (they all start somewhere ya know).

Sometimes they rival or exceed the experience to be had with some 'ad only' star rated providers.

Why would it not be okay for her to run an ad?

Because of a difference in rates?

SA is an aspect of the hobby that many will never truly study or explore first hand.

Yet some will freely judge the entire scene and all participants, based solely on their own (often unfounded) assumptions, and the hearsay, opinions and preachings of others.

Contempt prior to investigation is self limiting....and kinda lazy too.

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15. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   I am one who makes a distinction.

A SW is someone who wants to make some quick cash by offering her mouth or pussy for 10-20 minutes. She tends to be pimped. She tends to be poor. She tends to be uneducated. She tends to have problems (i.e., mental, drugs, diseases, family). She tends to not have her own place or car. She tends to be young and perhaps even young. And you can get all this for $20-50...a bit more if you are not careful.

A provider is someone who learns how to be a pleasureable experience for a man who wants sensual/sexual satifaction. She may expand her abilities and offer girlfriend experience, various types of massage, stimulating conversation. She tends to be independent. She tends to be educated. She tends to have no problems with mind and drugs, although may be an outcast in the family system. She tends to have her own place and car. She tends to be older. And you can get all this for between $150-$300...more or less depending on time and services offered.


Although they both "provide", I always aligned the word provider with an escort and so cannot see them both as the same. Just my thoughts.

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16. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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I can understand and agree with you in your broad generalizations up to a point. My statement is based on my knowledge of, and association with, several women (on both sides) that are clearly exceptions to one or the other of the descriptions/scenarios you've layed out here.

Most notably the problems/drugs/mind and amount of time thing.


>> Although they both "provide", I always aligned the word provider with an escort and so cannot see them both as the same. <<

I don't attach any special significance to the terms women or mongers use in labeling or classifying the various participants in the sex trade. In the end, all that really matters to me is the quality of the experience and how much fun I have in the process.

One thing is for sure, hot, crazy, monkey sex with a cheerful and willing SW'ing hottie in a cheap no-tel motel, is to me, far preferable to a routine (even sedate), scripted, menu check off with a rated courtesan.

By the same token, hottie or not, a really good date with a sexy, interesting, and engaging provider (your description), is preferable to a lousy and rushed date with a SW'er.

And to the OP.
Yes, it's totally okay that they work both sides of the fence and post whenever and wherever they please. Fact is, it really doesn't matter what we think. They do it, they've been doing it, and I have no doubt they will continue to do it, with or without our general approval.

Money talks.

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17. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
In response to message #0
 
   > I was just curious on this matter. Is it fair to say that
>it's ok for
>a SW to post as a provider when she is working out of her
>motel and on the streets at the same time? What are your
>thoughts?

Plenty of street girls carry pagers for escort services. If you pick her up in your car it costs $40. If you call her through the agency she costs $300. Same girl, same service. That's why "you get what you pay for" is totally false in the hooker biz.

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19. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   There are many top end escorts who started out as streetwalkers.A lot of whom you'd never guess,unless they told you.
My only issue with SW's making the leap to escorts is that many of them just raise their prices without raising their game.
When I pay escort prices I expect unrushed service, a professional attitude and DISCRETION.
Too many new "escorts" don't know or understand how to provide that.

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20. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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>There are many top end escorts who started out as
>streetwalkers.A lot of whom you'd never guess,unless they
>told you.
>My only issue with SW's making the leap to escorts is that
>many of them just raise their prices without raising their
>game.
>When I pay escort prices I expect unrushed service, a
>professional attitude and DISCRETION.
>Too many new "escorts" don't know or understand how to
>provide that.


Everysteady nailed it!


Different prices for essentially similar service/product common in other businesses.

$200 escort charging $80, in and out quickie vs. $40 SW.

Hotel rack rate vs. price line rate.

Product from brick and mortar store vs. eBay purchase.

For those who are concerned that your buddy paid less than you, then shop like your buddy shops.


................................................
Too much sex is still not enough

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21. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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   Thanks HighStepper,I'm honored!

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23. "RE: SW? Provider? or Both?"
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Having started back in the days before the internet in L.A.. There was a particular adrenalin rush in cruising for SWs and scoring. With a SW you pay for a specific act and time is not a consideration. The encounters are generally rushed and are only about busting a nut.

If a Provide chooses to work as a SW and an Escort, who are we to tell her no. The services provided are very different. Vote with your wallet.

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