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pdma4444
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12-Dec-09, 09:29 PM (PST)
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"need tips for first timer.."
 
   i'm looking at the cheap girls <150$ in the classified redbooks section and sometimes they have no linked review in their profile. it makes me nervous seeing them, is it worth it? also, i thought a link to their review page is automatically posted?

and why are some of those girls pretty attractive looking yet they charge only 120$ or so when they could get away with charging more?

it looks like a very good deal but im suspicious.


also, do providers ever treat you differently because of your race, age, or size? i'm really skinny and kind of young and i have a big fear of rejection so I have a hard time talking to girls and i would feel pretty bad if i see an escort and she gives me a hard time..

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vuggy
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12-Dec-09, 10:39 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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Everyone is suspicious when the girl looks attractive, has a low price, and no reviews. That is why a lot of guys will only visit reviewed providers. With that said, I have taken a chance on some low priced, unreviewed, attractive providers and have been completely satisfied. Of course, they are no longer unreviewed providers because I wrote a review. Here is a perfect example:

http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=131036

I think Honey is very attractive. The price is only $90 for a half an hour, and she provides good service. She was unreviewed the first time I saw her. She now has 2 reviews. I have seen her at least four times since I posted the first review. So, you never know - that is why they call it TOFTT (although I don't really take one for the team - I take one for myself because I want to know if they are really as good as the pictures then I share the results).

As for your second question,I thought that providers would not like me because I am, well, let's just say not Brad Pitt. I have yet to visit one who even seemed to care. You don't need to really fear rejection from a good provider. They tend to reject you because you are creepy, unclean, have bad breath, or cheap - not because you are skinny, fat, ugly, bald, etc. It's not like going to a bar and picking up chicks.

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13-Dec-09, 00:34 AM (PST)
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2. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   You are easy to please. A non GFE black chick at $180/hr is not a great deal for me. I would have viewed both those reviews with suspicion. No service is worth 9's and 10.'s if she doesnt kiss and at least offer BBBJ

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vuggy
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13-Dec-09, 08:13 AM (PST)
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4. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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If you were rating a restaurant, and they didn't offer steak, and you didn't want steak would you rate them down because of it. What if you only wanted a cheeseburger and the cheeseburger was great? I know some reviewers rate based upon what services are offered, and others rate based on the quality of the services that are offered. I would only rate down for something that wasn't offered if the add implied that it was offered.

The original poster was saying that he was suspicious of adds with no reviews that they might be deceptive. My point was that this is not always the case. The example I posted has no deception. The photos are accurate (in fact, I think she is better in person) and there are no claims in the add that are false. Whether or not you think she is attractive is a matter of opinion. I take it from your "black chick" remark, that blacks are not your favorites. I tend to like them and won't rate them down for their blackness.

One more thing, I am easy to please. That is why you always have to read the text of the review and not go so much by the numbers.

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11. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-Dec-09 AT 05:32 PM (PST)
 
>I know some reviewers rate based upon what services are offered, and others rate based on the quality of the services >that are offered

Excellent point! This distinction does not appear to be well followed in RB reviews.

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17-Dec-09, 10:46 PM (PST)
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15. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   The black chick remark has relevance to the price not the client's preference. Like it or not, it's a fact well known to the providers that black girls get less money. Only hot blondes get $$$$ and up and black girls only get $$$ if they offer no holds barred PSE service. Asian girls frequently advertize for $.6 or less. If that's your preference then yes, you can get good service for the price. You can also get ripped off, so do some research first, and you should definitely go with a well reviewed provider for your first time.

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23. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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>The black chick remark has relevance to the price not the
>client's preference. Like it or not, it's a fact well known
>to the providers that black girls get less money. Only hot
>blondes get $$$$ and up and black girls only get $$$ if they
>offer no holds barred PSE service. Asian girls frequently
>advertize for $.6 or less. If that's your preference then
>yes, you can get good service for the price. You can also
>get ripped off, so do some research first, and you should
>definitely go with a well reviewed provider for your first
>time.
sEEMS to be with Asians the price always goes up as they add more options from the initial agreed price that gets you to go in. Almost like shopping for a car.

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13-Dec-09, 08:11 AM (PST)
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3. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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If you look carefully at the ads, you'll see a small R inside of a circle right below the tag line. That will alert you that the provider has their reviews linked in the ad. If you're just looking for reviewed ladies, don't even bother looking at any other ads as the odds on bringing up a review for them is extremely small. $120/hr beautiful girl = TGTBT. I wouldn't worry about being rejected by providers unless you show up w/o cash.

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5. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   When first starting out in this hobby I was more afraid of getting caught in a LE sting or running into a providers pimp than being rejected. As stated in previous post as long as you have the cash, good hygiene, and treat the woman with respect you will be fine.

I found a good rule of thumb was to stick to reviewed providers. I could read the reviews and get a general idea of what type of services are available without having to ask them directly. I know it make providers uncomfortable when they meet you for the 1st time any you start asking them specific questions about exactly what type of service you will receive for the advertised donation. Give them a few minutes to establish that you are not LE and then they will feel much more comfortable and be more open with you.

I really don't give the TGTBT ads much thought although the pics are great to look at. I feel it is too much of a waste of time for me when a super hot chick is advertising her services for $120 when she could easily command $300 based on her pics alone. I get the feeling something is not right....provider using fake pics, B & S scam or a number of other scenarios run through my mind. There are plenty of well established providers who are offering 1/2 - 3/4 hr sessions in your price range. Feel free to inbox me and I can send you a few links of providers I have met personally.

With that being said there have been a few instances where I hooked up with a newbie who had only 1 or 2 reviews. But this was only after I had been hobbying for a while. You develope a 6th sense that tells you if you should go through with it...indicators such as the location of hotel, the condition of her room, the appearance and attitude of the provider when you first meet...always go with your gut and dont let the little head out think the big head.

Welcome and joy your new hobby


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13-Dec-09, 12:23 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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you only get rejected when your black because then they think you will rob them or your a wannabe pimp. I've even offered above their going rate a time or two and still got no action. If your white or Mexican you wont have anything to worry about.

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7. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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I sympathize with your plight. I've even had Ebony providers tell me that they don't see black hobbyists. The only other group of guys who have it nearly as bad are (very) overweight guys. Maybe black hobbyists should start their own forum where they can talk about providers who are friendly and where they (the girls) can post.

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14-Dec-09, 11:32 AM (PST)
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8. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   I was just like you and from a dozen whores i've learned:

usually the low price good looking chicks
- give non-gfe service and ymmv
- have a slow night, few clients calling
- working a certain city with low volume of customers
* competition from other cheaper providers

ALWAYS see reviewed girls, with a minimum of 5 solid reviews, and look out if they have several bad ones!!

As far as being nervous and rejected:
Only happened twice, even if you get business out the way she can smell your fear and might feel uncomfortable, so try and relax- remember she's just as nervous as u are, fucking strangers isn't easy, it will hamper your performance.

*I always felt that women count the money not the man but for some reason some providers refuse black patrons, and others won't see tricks under 30
???

I see whores cause i don't really know how to talk to women, have zero game yet this hobby is fast, easy, convenient, annonymous, (Just pick up the phone and ask how much and where)

Remember as long as your sober, showered, not rude, relaxed and positive she won't reject u regardless of size, body type, race, or age.

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9. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   I can't say anything about the <$150 set but If you are nervous for your first time it might go better if you find someone with a good track record. Just a thought not a rule.

I'm skinny and look 15-20 years younger than I am, and I can tell you that of the many girls I've met, only a few were tentative with my (perceived) age and absolutely none were weird or unprofessional about it after a few minutes. Just go in there with the confidence like you belong there and it will be okay.

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10. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   I have always gone with the half hour specials on a newbie(or cheap)provider. sometimes even a well reviewed provider. You never know if you will click with either one. Once you do, then the hour is your option. I always try to leave honest reviews based on my sessions with a girl just to keep other rber's informed on my experiences. You may find an attractive girl charging 120 and have a blast. If your nervous and new, than go with a reviewed girl. Otherwise you will toftt and may have an awful time. You shouldn't worry about race,size,... Realize that providers are employed by you and should offer the same service regardless of that. This is just my opinion.

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12. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   One immutable rule that life has taught me is that you get what you pay for; what you don't pay for you don't get! NO EXCEPTIONS!

Review-Reserach-EXECUTE!

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13. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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All great advice and recommendations.

Let me add some more. Tell your prospective provider about your fear beforehand and gauge the response whether you will get someone accomondating and understanding.

Pick someone older 30+.

Do a massage (FBSM) instead. There may be less conversation and you don't need to worry much about what to do.

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14. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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>i'm looking at the cheap girls <150$ in the classified
>redbooks section and sometimes they have no linked review in
>their profile. it makes me nervous seeing them, is it worth
>it? also, i thought a link to their review page is
>automatically posted?
>
>and why are some of those girls pretty attractive looking
>yet they charge only 120$ or so when they could get away
>with charging more?
>
>it looks like a very good deal but im suspicious.
>
>
>also, do providers ever treat you differently because of
>your race, age, or size? i'm really skinny and kind of young
>and i have a big fear of rejection so I have a hard time
>talking to girls and i would feel pretty bad if i see an
>escort and she gives me a hard time..

You could always try the Asian girls at the AAMP from $120 to $160.

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16. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   Young man,

Think about it before you dive in. Many call this a "hobby" but for a good percentage (including myself) it is an addiction.

The cost of this "hobby" could range from a lot of harmless fun spending extra cash flow (that you can afford)...to.. complete control of your relationships with women, financial disaster, a lot of stress and major health risks.

Check out saa.org before you jump in and make sure you are on solid ground....don't underestimate the power of this "hobby"

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17. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   aflyfisher why did you link an archaelogy website, don't u mean sex addicts annonymous??

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18. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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Do yourself a favor and until you get the feel for it see a girl for half an hour at 150 who has a few reviews. Be nice to them they will be nice to you.

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19. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   > i have a big fear of rejection

Not to exonerate our vice, but it occurred to me that the hobby might help you with this. I don't know what fear of rejection is like, as I have never had it. Seeing providers has made me more relaxed around other women, though. You can be thinking, "I was with a hottie last week, and she had skills. What do you have to offer?" Not in an arrogant way, but it might make you more comfortable.

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20. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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The only danger in this is thinking why put in the effort with a civilian because you can just dial a whore and fuck her. But as long as you don't go down that road I think you're right.

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21. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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do yourself a favor and spend a little more, you get what you pay for most of the time.

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22. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   Agreed, it's a real risk.

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24. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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   I would agree with the other comments about seeing an AAMP girl first. Also, step up the amount and pay for a nice highly reviewed 5 Star Escort if you are getting into this for the first time. Get a VIP Membership, TODAY, and at least give yourself a fighting chance against the army of shills, promoters, and "agenda" guys on the message board. Get it for a month, that's nothing cost wise, and browse by your criteria for the right girl.

A lot of us started with SW's (I did and still have a great time) and for the budget minded can't be beat. There are risks, so read Street Action or just put it on the back burner for now and go with the AAMP Scene.

A few reasons to go the aamp route - you don't read about pimps in the next room or waiting outside nor about ripoffs. No reference hassle/delay. Basic service for a fair price although you can't trust most pics, but you still get good value for your money. A good place to start. Don't worry about being skinny or young this isn't an issue with any of the girls.

Some guys claim that seeing Hookers when young is a confidence booster for some reason. I'm not exactly sold on that idea, but, the convenience can be so great that for a young guy can lead to not bothering having relationships with civilians. At a young age, you should get out and date. Try it once or twice and then come back 10 or 20 years from now when your around 40 and had your fill of civilian drama would be my Tip.

If your post is sincere, and in furtherance, this can be addicting since it's so easy to hook up quickly these days compared to say the 80's and much more information is available for you, the Client. You just might not look back and go full steam ahead but this is a "costly" endeavor if you are like many who see 6 to 8 girls a month. Most young dudes don't have that kind of disposable cash and shouldn't be tossing that kind of coin around at a young age.....Take it for what it's worth.

L4B

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25. "RE: need tips for first timer.."
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pdma4444, check your inbox

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