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buckweston
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"Why you need a hobby phone..."
 
   I made an interesting discovery today that has really made me thankful that I use a hobby phone. Thought I'd share it with the rest of you in case nobody ever thought about this. OK, I always used my hobby phone whenever calling a working girl- that just seemed like a good idea. However, I recently have become very close with a VERY established and professional escort in the Bay area. She is mature, clearly independent, and as I said very professional. She later gave me her personal (non-work) cell phone number that I call her on sometimes, and that she frequently calls me from. I hadn't yet broken down and given her my real cell phone,home, or work number- although I was starting to get tempted to, since my hobby phone has limited minutes on it. It would have been a lot cheaper and easier to have given her one of those real numbers- but I didn't. I was almost at the point of giving it to her. Then I just found this out- her cell phone was given to her by one of her "friends"(read other clients). She just casually mentions to me how nice he is to give her a paid phone. Granted it's a nice benefit for her- but some nameless guy is getting a monthly record of all the numbers she's calling and that are calling her. All I could think was thank god the only number of mine he's seeing is my hobby phone. More than likely, this is just some guy trying to get an easy sex discount by providing a cheap extra line on his account, but it just goes to show how easily your phone information can be spread around. And this is with a seasoned and responsible provider. Be careful guys...

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1. "RE: MetroPCS may be the answer..."
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   I've spoken before of my fondness for Metro. Briefly:

1. It's a flat rate deal (the first one that I was aware of.) No minute limits. Depending on the optional features you want, Rates start at about $35 per month. I have a really loaded one, including internet, for about $54 a month, including the extortionate cell phone taxes.

2. It is easy to get one anonymously. Just go in a Metro store, pay cash, and put any name etc you want on the form. Pay each month either in the store with cash, or send them a money order. (Of course, you can pay with credit card, check, or whatever, but you lose some anonymity.)

3. They don't send out a detailed bill (or any other bill). Unless you pay a couple bucks a month extra for it. Since it's flat rate, doesn't matter anyway.

4. You can get unlimited 411 (directory assistance) for a flat rate of $2.00 a month. Last time I checked, Verizon was charging something like $1.40 PER 411 CALL! This may not matter much to some. But I use 411 a lot (lazy ba__ard that I am) and my savings there, alone, pay my whole metro bill. So to speak.

5. Coverage is good, as long as you are not TOO deep in the sticks. And is constantly getting better. This is not the phone company to have if you travel a lot and want to use it in a bunch of states. (It can be done, but gets expensive if your not in metro's own area. It's no Verizon in this respect... but it works for me.

6. I guess, if you really only use a hobby phone for 10 minutes a month or something, a pre-paid might be better. But I like not worrying about minutes used. An Metro, as stated before is flat rate, unlimited.


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17-Dec-09, 11:33 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: MetroPCS may be the answer..."
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"Be careful guys..."

This comment is quasi on topic - speaks to the OPs main advice to be careful.

A lot of posts on cell phones advice to regularly clear history of calls made and received. The reason is obvious - if your SO finds your phone and checks the calls made, you are toast (right Tiger ?).

I have a bit of a different twist. I make bogus calls to places that would be obvious I would never call, and then leave them in the history. Example: I call some museum in some city I would never have a reason to travel to, such as say, Philadelphia.

This gives me the added excuse if my SO does happen to find my phone and checks history, I would give the usual story that I found some other guy's "lost" phone and dropped it into my brief case with the intention of trying to find a way to return it to him when he calls his lost phone from his from his real phone.

The bogus history on this phone my SO has found gives me the excuse that, since I never go to Philly, it could not be my phone. Why would I call Philly if I never go there ?

Maybe a little over the top, but, it comes back to "Be Careful"

Ask Uncle Bob

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18-Dec-09, 01:29 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: MetroPCS may be the answer..."
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H. O. K. U. N. A.
A little extra precaution. Key board locks on your phone. Separate billing addresses to P O box at mail store. Change your passwords frequently. Set up a secondary email account that that you can use for hobby accounts. Most of all. Do your best to not raise suspicion that would lead to your SO to snoop.

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7. "RE: MetroPCS may be the answer..."
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LAST EDITED ON 18-Dec-09 AT 09:42 PM (PST)
 
>I've spoken before of my fondness for Metro.

Good recomendation, Metro is one of the easiest!

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coolhand05
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11. "RE: MetroPCS may be the answer..."
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Great idea, this should be a part of the hobby tool kit!

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3. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   is this girl Jamie Grubbs?

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buckweston
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18-Dec-09, 10:58 AM (PST)
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5. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   >is this girl Jamie Grubbs?
No

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4. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   Also - more than likely he has her password to her VM.

No different than any pimped girl. So if you get too clingy with a what you think is a ATF or start stalking her, the pimp can jack you up later by calling you at home or work.

So not only should you NOT use your regular phone, keep your VM's & texts simple.

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8. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   wow! something i would never have thought of. metro here i come

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9. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   A hobby phone of any kind is the best piece of advice I've received from the boards. When I first started I always shitted bricks when receiving a txt on my phone and the SO was nearby. Now I can breath easier when taking care of any business and not have worry about txt, numbers, or messages on the phone.

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10. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   I tried the hobby phone, but just dealing with two phones, and keeping up on minutes now and then was too much work. Now, I use a cool double-blind service I can call from my regular phone. All I do is put in the provider number I want to call, and it dials a "magic number" that connects me to said provider... And she can call me back using the callerID she gets - but THAT number isn't my phone, either.

If my wife calls the number that shows up on the phone bill, she gets an automated message that offers to tell her the current traffic and weather conditions for any zip code.

So, provider never gets my real number, phone bill doesn't log the provider number, and it comes with a built-in excuse for any crazy number checkers. It's in private beta, but inbox me if you want an invite when they start handing them out.

Of course, guys, if you have someone trying to sneak a look at your phone log, or taking a magnifying glass to the phone bill, you have a problem that can't be solved by ANY 2nd phone/magic number service. Time to get a new SO, or renegotiate your relationship. "Trust, but verify" is called "not trust" where I'm from.

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13. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   I can see the benefits of the double-blind service but like you said if it can be tied to any type of phone log or bill than it kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion.

I have a prepay phone so I get no bill, no logs, and no proof of payment for services that the SO can identify or lead back to me. Nothing is in my name and cash was used to purchase the phone and additional minutes.


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19. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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>Of course, guys, if you have someone trying to sneak a look
>at your phone log, or taking a magnifying glass to the phone
>bill, you have a problem that can't be solved by ANY 2nd
>phone/magic number service. Time to get a new SO, or
>renegotiate your relationship. "Trust, but verify" is called
>"not trust" where I'm from.

Good point.

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12. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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"Is that a second phone in your pocket, or are you seeing other women behind my back?"

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14. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   Hide it in your car (under the seat), in your dresser under your shorts, in you desk at the office...

If the wife does find it, so did I. On the ground at the office. I'm turning it in tomorrow, in fact.

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18. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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That's a good one. I'm going to have to remember that one.

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15. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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>....Then I just found this out-
>her cell phone was given to her by one of her "friends"(read
>other clients). She just casually mentions to me how nice
>he is to give her a paid phone. Granted it's a nice benefit
>for her- but some nameless guy is getting a monthly record
>of all the numbers she's calling and that are calling her.

Not necessarily. He could have given it to her and she could be using her SIM or he could have made arrangements for her to get it.

What proof do you have he has access to her account and is receiving the monthly bill?

I kind of doubt that.

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16. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   The wives out there might catch on to the story of "Oh, honey, I found this cell phone in the parking lot", i mena what arethe odds? If some of them start talking they might figure it out...

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31-Dec-09, 01:21 PM (PST)
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17. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   >
>>....Then I just found this out-
>>her cell phone was given to her by one of her "friends"(read
>>other clients). She just casually mentions to me how nice
>>he is to give her a paid phone. Granted it's a nice benefit
>>for her- but some nameless guy is getting a monthly record
>>of all the numbers she's calling and that are calling her.
>
>Not necessarily. He could have given it to her and she could
>be using her SIM or he could have made arrangements for her
>to get it.
>
>What proof do you have he has access to her account and is
>receiving the monthly bill?
>
>I kind of doubt that.

I was NOT speculating. She specifically told me that he gave her the phone to use on his account for free- just as long as she didn't use it excessively and exhaust his plan's minutes. Doesn't it make sense that someone is going to be getting the bill for that phone's monthly usage? Also it is a Verizon phone- so there is no SIM.

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20. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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Can I just buy a sim card with prepaid minutes for an existing Nokia phone that I don't use? It's an old T-Mobile phone. You guys got me all freaked out now.

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21. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Jan-10 AT 00:04 AM (PST)
 
n/m

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22. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   If I was single and didn't have to worry about a SO, are there any other risks to using my real cellphone # for hobbying?

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23. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   LE

If a provider gets busted they do go through her phone and also will subpeona the call records for that phone.

Don't use your personal phone.

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24. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   Even if I had a hobby phone, wouldn't they find out it's me anyway since the hobby phone will locate me via GPS + my name is registered to that phone?

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25. "RE: Why you need a hobby phone..."
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   Get a prepaid. Don't give them your name, address or anything.

Places like Verizon and such will ask. For name they will use "Mobile Customer" and address they can use the store address.

No they can't locate you via the GPS. They can subpeona the records of someone they can provide a convincing argument that they are engaged in illegal activity.

Typically the way it works, once you are arrested, they will subpeona the records, but not before.

Just don't give personal info.

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