I live in the san jose/sf bay-ish area. I am 20 years old, i'm not FAT but a little chunky, and i'm not "well endowed". I'm still a virgin, and I thought that doing this might be a good way to finally break the ice. I've never had a girlfriend, due to my low self-esteem and fear of rejection. I thought that by getting into this, that it might give me a confidence boost and a little more confortable around women. So here are my questions (If you don't mind):

Which ones to pick? I'm so scared that i'll get caught by the police...I still live with the parents so I would pretty much die if that happened. Some say "incall" and some "outcall". What do these mean? Which is preferred? Do I have to rent a hotel or do they have somewhere? Should I worry about STDs? Should I not bring anything other than the required money? I should NOT use my home phone or cell phone, right? I was looking at this girl: http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=140950 I was drastically taken because WOW i like Japanese girls. However, there are no reviews, no email, just a phone number and i'm a little afraid to call...i'm sorry if I asked stupid questions but I hope you can help make my first time an unforgettable one!

Oh and expect to be flamed by someone since many are touchy when it comes to posting questions that can be answered with a little bit of looking around.

Buy a membership and read the reviews.

Lone_Wolf
Charter Member
109 posts, Rate this user 06-Jan-10, 06:26 PM (PST)

2. "RE: Recomendations..."
In response to message #1

I'd 2nd that motion. Start at the top and you're less likely to have a bad session. My top 3 based on the current ads.
Kara

Kara: http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID201/183937.html
Review: http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=1236707

Sophia

Sophia: http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID201/162762.html
Review: http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=1263544

Boa

Boa: http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID201/185149.html
Review: http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=715524

Enjoy and have a Happy 2010!

-Lone_Wolf

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PS. The following guide was written by bone69. Should be mandatory reading for all new members.

by bone69

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To be informed, start by visiting these two places:

Clueless forum:
http://forum.myredbook.com/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=list&forum=DCForumID15&archive=

Terms and Acronyms: http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID15/2.html
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Guide to visiting an AAMP (Apartment Asian Massage Parlor):

I started a long time ago. Before RB, it was SW, MP (25 years ago),
and MBOT. Seen ads on lovings.com and similar web sites. Never tried
any from lovings.com because they don't list price and reviews (and
most were too expensive). Discovered RB about 2 years ago. Classified
ads and ads for AAMPs and reviews. Asking price for AAMPS a lot more
reasonable than most escorts (caucasian).

It's not rocket science. Look through the AAMP ads. I wouldn't bother
with the $160 or less ones. Most use fake pics/B&S/MILFs. You may
occasionally find a gem (young, slim and pretty). Make a list of RAs
you like and then look for reviews. Make a short list of RAs whose
reviews look good and start making phone calls. Call early to get
desired time slot. The popular ones book fast. I usually start calling
around 9:30am. If no answer, wait a little bit and try again.
Sometimes, they don't pick up if the RA is booked for the day or they
start late (like 11am or 1pm). Most use 3 call system. Get
appointment, confirm appt, call to get address, gate code and apt#.

Things to do:
1) Don't be late with the confirmation call. You may lose your appointment.

2) Show up on time. If you are going to be late, call. Your session
may be shortened but you shouldn't lose your appt (will still have to
pay for the hour). Sometimes you will still get the full hour (if she
doesn't have another appt waiting).

3) Sometimes the RA is not ready and the PO will say call back or they
will call back when she is ready. If more than 5 minutes past quoted
call back time, call again (they sometimes forget).

4) Follow all instructions. You may have to ask PO to repeat if he/she
has an accent that makes it difficult to understand what they said.

5) Have the donation ready before you leave the car.

6) Take your cell phone with you. You may need it if the PO needs to
contact you, you get lost, forget gate code or apt#, etc.

7) I always give the RA the donation at the beginning of the session
(so I don't forget and RA doesn't have to worry about getting paid).

8) Always accept the shower at the beginning of the session. Even if
you took a shower 15 minutes ago. You could get sweaty during the walk
from your car to the apt on a warm day. Regardless of how recently you
bathed, accept the shower so the RA knows you are squeaky clean. You
will have more fun. Think about it from her point of view, would you
want to suck someone with sweaty balls? Yuck! They sometimes do coed
showers. More fun for you.

9) I always let them do their script. Especially on the first visit.
It works for them and you may like what they do. If you want to take
charge, go ahead but you may miss out on some special thing they like
to do. To me, directing the action seems "forced" but some prefer it.
I like to let the RA do what she wants and it usually works for me.

10) Always respect the RAs boundaries. If you are "big", be gentle and
find a position that is comfortable for both of you. Some don't like
FIV or DATY. Almost all don't do Greek or BBFS. It's always best to
ask before trying to do something out of the ordinary (like FIV). If
the RA says you are hurting her, stop and try it another way. You are
paying her to provide a service but that does NOT give you the right
to do whatever you want.

11) If you want MSOG, you should check the ad and reviews to see if
she offers it. You can always ask at the beginning of the session.
Unless the ad says MSOG (2X) is OK, most of the time it is one pop
only. Even if the ad says it's OK, you should ask her and say you want
to try. If you don't, she may pace the session for one pop and then
you won't have enough time.

12) The hour includes time for undressing/dressing, 2 showers and fun
time. If you are having difficulties finishing, you may have to switch
to HJ to finish on time. It's that or risk being told "sorry, no more
time". At the end of the hour, she has to get ready for the next
client.

Don't forget what kind of business this is. The RA/PO provides the
service but they are in control. They get paid regardless. You can't
complain to the BBB. We vote with our dollars. The orgs/RAs who
provide the best service gets the most clients and dollars. They make
the money they do because they are entertainers, their product is
their bodies, they have a relatively short peak earning period, and
the business is risky (LE, robbery, STD, AIDs).

Just go for it and have fun. Always do your research, be on time, have
patience and be respectful.

Well known, well reviewed providers are less likely to be police stings, but this ain't Nevada, so who knows what might happen.
You won't die if you get caught, though your parents may very well evict you (which, though it might seem like the end of the world, might actually be the beginning of a new 'adult' life for you.)

Don't necessarily 'worry' about STDs; educate yourself about the issue and act with appropriate prudence.

If you have low self-esteem, behave in an estimable manner. Courage is often defined as being fearful of something, then going ahead and doing it anyway. (Albeit there's always the possibility that what you thought of as an act of COURAGE will, in hindsight, turn out to have been an act of stupidity!)

A 'hobby phone' (search the forums about this) is recommended to the extent that your own phone records might be searched (like, by mom 'n pop.)

I believe that nearly all of the low-price Asian girls are 'represented' by some sort of agency or agent (gang? pimp?) and that when you call, a 'representative' - often male - will be answering to arrange the rendezvous. As others have said, stick with well-reviewed girls. Bait and switch is apparently common, if not outright rampant in this sector of the business (it's not really my thing, so it's not direct experience writing here.) Read through the "AAMP / Massage Parlor" forum for better information about this.

I don't think that hooking up with an escort/masseuse or a few of them will do much of anything to improve your social skills with women in the general population, though it might mitigate the 'shame' of virginity, and reduce any obvious cluelessness when you later have sex with a civilian girlfriend.

You might post this in one of the forums where women can answer - they'll have an invaluable differently angled point of view. Suggested forums might be the ones with the word "Lounge" in the name.
(Watch out though, the Cougars might eat ya alive!)

Every morning look in the mirror and repeat that 100 times. You'll do fine. (civies or hoes)

A Happy Trick Makes a Happy Hoe.

But, if you're not the owner of a fat bank account, you might want to consider avoiding this pay-for-escorts activity. It can drain your pocket book very rapidly once you get started. So - be careful! - You may not want to lose the money needed for other things that may be important to you at this stage of life - an education, for example.

If you're just looking to pop the cherry, do yourself a favor and just drive out to Reno. Yeah, you'll spend a lot more, but you'll be able to deal with whatever fears / insecurities without the added anxiety related to personal safety.

Get that out of the way, then come back and decide if you want to explore more.

That said, the advice you're getting about improving yourself / your situation is what you 'should' be doing. The women aren't going anywhere.

1. Which to pick. You’ve read other inputs advising you to stick (at least while you’re in training) to the $200 girls. The rationale for this advice is very straightforward: you get what you pay for. My preference is for the 25-29+ age group because they’re generally experienced, likely to be more sympathetic to your situation and patient with a beginner. In this group you’ll find the best of the best. To find out who they are, become a VIP member and do some homework. Next, try to narrow down your choices by deciding what might be acceptable to you in terms of personality (sure, looks ARE important, but what activities the lady allows and how she treats you are at least equally as criticalto having a positive, memorable experience). The following thread appeared about a week ago in the AAMP/Massage Parlor forum. I think that it could be of use to you as it contains some good generalizations and observations.http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID19/41895.html

You expressed a preference for Japanese women. There aren’t a lot of them practicing around here, so you might want to expand your preferences. What about GFE Anna, beside the fact that she’s Japanese, turned you on? Pick the attributes and, with the search capabilities that VIP membership will give you, research others with the characteristics that you like in Anna.

As you’re probably already aware, the RA business is very competitive. As a consequence you’ll find that some of these ladies take a lot of liberties in their ads; pictures are often altered or substituted and ages are often exaggerated. I think that this tendency is less likely at the $200 price point than it is at the $160 level.

One comment that I’d make about the three ladies suggested by Lone Wolf…they’re all absolutely, positively in the top tier, but Boa is about to go on vacation and Kara is usually hard to set up an appointment with. Try Sophia and I’d also Ayaka to that list. But, as with all of the other top performers, start calling first thing in the morning (say 9:00) as, even in this lousy economic climate, their schedules will often fill up quickly. While I agree that it's best not to rush headlong into what will be an important, expensive proposition, having done the research, neither do you want to wait for a month or two until the RA in question is available.

2. Incall/Outcall. Incall: you go to her place. Outcall: she comes to your place.

3. Danger of getting busted. As you know, what you’re contemplating doing is against the law. That being said, if the provider does an adequate job of maintaining a discrete, quiet, orderly establishment, thereby not arousing the suspicions of busybodies, generally she’s able to ply her trade safely and securely. Still, see the Clueless forum for some good advice should you be so unfortunate to become a victim of the long arm of the law.

4. See the Medical Center forum about STDs. With reference to both #3 and 4, I’ve been hobbying for many years and have never had a problem in either of these areas. However, there’s always a first time.

5. Cell phones vs. Hobby phones. Again, you’ll find commentary about this subject in the Clueless forum.

6. Making the appointment. As mentioned above, it’s always to your advantage to start your search earlier in the day rather than later. Set up a plan consisting of, say, 5 different RAs you’d like to see and make your calls, expecting that you’re probably not going to have the call answered on the first or second attempt. When the call is answered, the PO (phone operator-the person who sets up the appointment) might well have a thick accent. Listen carefully and don’t hesitate to politely ask him/her to repeat anything that you don’t understand. After establishing a time, you’ll be asked to confirm the appointment about an hour beforehand, when you’ll be given some general directions. Then, finally a short time before the appointment, you’ll be called back (hopefully!) by the PO and given the specific location. When you ring the bell, the door will be opened, but you won’t see who opened it until you’re inside. She may also be hard to understand, due to her accent. If you don’t like what you see, or think that the person who you’re looking at is not the one with whom you made the appointment, politely excuse yourself and leave before things progress any farther.

7. What to bring. A hard-on and the donation, the condom, etc. will be supplied by the provider. Maybe I’m paranoid, but I’ve always made it a practice, no matter how well I know the RA, to put the donation in my pants pocket, leaving my wallet, watch and all other keys except the car key either at home or in the car. Cell phone? Sometimes I bring it, in case of gate code or apt. location problems, and sometimes I don’t, preferring the latter.

Finally, as the other guys have mentioned, at 20 years old, you probably don’t have an overabundance of cash, so try to keep this potentially very addictive hobby in the right perspective. Think of mongering as a treat to be rationed out rather than a necessity. After you’ve established yourself in life you’ll find that the ladies will be just as numerous, horny and talented as they are now.

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