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Nova_Prospect click here to view user rating
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"Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
 
I've probably seen 2-3 FS providers in the last 5 years. I'm very shy. I get incredibly nervous of the thought of showing up (or having someone visit the house) with the sole intention of.. well you know. I love FBSM because it seems more natural; sort of therapeutic leading to sensual (weird I know). Perhaps spending the first half face down helps too

Anyways, last night I forayed into FS for the first time in ages and it was a complete disaster. The young lady showed up (one great review, still no reason to believe it wasn't legit). Absolutely gorgeous. Complete sweetheart. Glass of wine. Quick tour of place. Sat down. She kept her distance. Nice chat. Nothing else. As soon as the hour was up she gave me the option of another hour (I declined) and was out of there. I don't have the confidence, assertiveness to make a move (even in that situation, when the outcome is somewhat guaranteed lol) and she didn't help out at all.

So I posted a review. Not to be critical, but to save anyone else with my "issues" spending $300 on a chat with a gorgeous girl (unless that's what they want). I'm not so gross that I need to pay hot girls to chat with me ;)

Did I do the right thing, or should I have just kept quiet and chalked it up to experience?

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1. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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You were right to leave a review and let people know that she "needed guidance" at the very least. I feel for your situation Nova. Sounds like sticking to FBSM is going to save you a lot of grief. Good luck.

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17-Jan-10, 05:46 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Maybe she was just as 'shy' as you were, the client/provider relationship should be clear and if your nervous she should have sensed that and taken the lead? And then again was she concerned with LE, after all most guys just get busy or let them know they're going to get busy. My first RA I was nervous as hell, not anymore, and I'm sure that's reflected in the mannerism I display.

As long as you own up to your part in the review, I see no problem with it.

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Nova_Prospect click here to view user rating
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17-Jan-10, 06:08 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Thanks guys. Don't think her worrying about LE was an issue (refs were checked). I have made my role (or lack thereof) clear in the review.

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4. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Well, since you are asking, may I offer my opinion in the matter?

I feel you were taken advantage of. You should have mentioned to her, during your initial phone call, that you were a shy and nervous individual, was she ok with that, and was she able to take charge? If yes, and proceed with the appointment, I believe she should have assumed control, as a professional person, and proceed accordingly, chat a little bit just to break any ice, and not as an excuse to delay intimacy, then either engage directly or ask you to get comfortable, etc. Now, while not clock watching, she should have had, in the back of her mind, a "sense" of the time elapsed, and act upon it. Make sure you were satisfied by receiving your FS.

I understand providers state you are paying for her companionship and her time modeling, but it is "understood" that is all for legal purposes and not for taking advantage of situations.

If you can, subscribe to the VIP, read the reviews of those providers who appeal to you, and verify their ratings are high. Don't go just for the ones who "look" appealing and no reviews for while YMMV, you may not know what surprises to expect, as the one you received. Once you select just a few ones, visit them. You are still going to be nervous, for that is difficult to control, but your goal is to finally select those you feel comfortable with. If you become a regular, the anxiousness you feel will dissipate for your future encounters. You will still feel excited to see them, but not nervous anymore.

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multitrickpony
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17-Jan-10, 07:17 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   I, too, feel you were taken advantage of.

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17-Jan-10, 07:30 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   Yes, quite certainly. When I was new to the hobby, I needed some chat time to soothe my nerves before I could do anything with a provider because the whole thing felt so awkward to me. The first two ladies that I saw both keyed in on this and tried to make me feel as calm as possible and tried to initiate when it was clear that I wasn't going to. One even talked me out of leaving early. These where not high-dollar ladies, probably more around half what you paid. At $300, I think the lady in question had a moral obligation to try to get the ball rolling (assuming that she truly didn't have any concerns of you being LE, of course).

Don't let this experience taint you. I agree with advice listed above that you might be able to get around this issue by communicating up front about it. Or, you might try visiting an AAMP, but be sure that you're seeing someone who's reviews make it clear that they are a bit aggressive about getting into the act. You might not be able to communicate very easily with some of them. It gets easier with practice.

Good luck!

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17-Jan-10, 07:57 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Thanks for the considered responses guys.

I struggle to hold her accountable, especially given her previous rave review and just the general vibe I got from her. She may be a spectacular actress of course, in which case I was taken advantage of.

I do feel okay submitting the review to save similar happening to someone else, at least they can be prepared if things move slowly during the meeting.

I like the suggestions for me to actually mention it to the provider beforehand.

Cheers.

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multitrickpony
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17-Jan-10, 09:01 PM (PST)
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8. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   I'd love to give a massage if that's ok?

It's a little warm in here. If you don't mind I'm going to get a little more comfortable?

Put on some music and i'll show you how good i am at striptease.

You have great lips. I love to kiss.

First you can take off my clothes and then I'll take off yours.

I love having my pussy licked. I hope you're into that.


Do you have a glass of wine for me? after one drink I'm up for anything.

Ect, Ect.

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17-Jan-10, 09:27 PM (PST)
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9. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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It's not her fault you failed to launch? Next time hire
a sex surrogate or pick a provider who is more aggressive.
Or at least give her some direction and tell her to follow a FBSM
script you are used to and if you get hard proceed with FS.

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17-Jan-10, 09:38 PM (PST)
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10. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   I would think a review would be appropriate as long as you don't comment on service.

Also, keep in mind that you have set up a "sure thing" so don't be nervous. If you were happy just chatting, then that is fine. Otherwise tell her what you want. (By the way, I am speaking from experience as I have had done the nervous wait and see thing before.)

tav

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11. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   I agree with the other opinions that you were taken advantage of.she should have taken some initiative such as offering a massage or some starter for contct and let you decline. Even with one review she would have been experienced enough to try to kick start the session. You say she checked references so some idea you weren't LE. How was$ handled? If the classical no talk and lay down a stuffed envelope, then even less fear for her to worry about LE.

Sorry to hear about your situation. When I started or even now with someone new, the start is difficult, but I usually get the "get comfortable" or "how about a message" pretty quickly even if I've book 90 min.

HG

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12. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   Dude,
I will not sugar coat this like the other brothers.
You was taken advantage of, better yet you should not be in this hobby
I am sorry to say this experience should be a warning to you, many brothers experience a hell of a lot worst, like being robbed by gun point.
Go to church meet you a good woman who will have patience with you and you can pay her indirect with diners and movies.
Everyone has to have a start, but 2 or 3 in five years, you truly do not need to waste your time and money in this hobby. Most of us are hard core sex addicts who would rather pay than go through the normal bull shit of worshiping or putting in the time with women for the same results we pay for.
It is up to you, but I wish my desires would allow to visit a provider 2 or 3 times in 5 years, I would be well invested.

This has nothing to do with your inadequacies, you picked a ripoff artist who probably laughed her way to the bank. If you do not quit the hobby at least pick a Sookey or a Asian provider normally they are here to take care of business and not take advantage of your lack of aggressiveness they want repeat business sounds like you picked a NONASIAN provider.

>I've probably seen 2-3 FS providers in the last 5 years. I'm
>very shy. I get incredibly nervous of the thought of showing
>up (or having someone visit the house) with the sole
>intention of.. well you know. I love FBSM because it seems
>more natural; sort of therapeutic leading to sensual (weird
>I know). Perhaps spending the first half face down helps too
>
>
>Anyways, last night I forayed into FS for the first time in
>ages and it was a complete disaster. The young lady showed
>up (one great review, still no reason to believe it wasn't
>legit). Absolutely gorgeous. Complete sweetheart. Glass of
>wine. Quick tour of place. Sat down. She kept her distance.
>Nice chat. Nothing else. As soon as the hour was up she gave
>me the option of another hour (I declined) and was out of
>there. I don't have the confidence, assertiveness to make a
>move (even in that situation, when the outcome is somewhat
>guaranteed lol) and she didn't help out at all.
>
>So I posted a review. Not to be critical, but to save anyone
>else with my "issues" spending $300 on a chat with a
>gorgeous girl (unless that's what they want). I'm not so
>gross that I need to pay hot girls to chat with me ;)
>
>Did I do the right thing, or should I have just kept quiet
>and chalked it up to experience?

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18-Jan-10, 01:13 AM (PST)
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13. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
In response to message #12
 
Final note on this one. She sent me a very nice note saying she just read the signals wrong and would be glad to put things right another time. I believe her.

I'll likely decline, heck if I was uncomfortable the first time can you imagine how bad it would be second time around

As DOE put it, I'm probably not cut out for this hobby.

But I really appreciate all the very considered responses. They helped.

G'night.

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D36L78
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18-Jan-10, 01:41 AM (PST)
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14. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   If the provider I had chosen to go with had taken the same route as yours did I would of probably ended up in the same situation as you. Thankfully I had the pleasure of finding someone who is an absolute gem and put this normally shy guy completely at ease. I am kind of surprised that someone like yourself who already knows their own personal comfort levels would choose someone with very little in the way of reviews given the need for someone who is willing to go the extra mile to bring a shy guy out of his shell.

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18-Jan-10, 07:43 AM (PST)
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15. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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I'm glad you found someone. It was against my better judgement, I hesitated for a couple of weeks, just shouldn't have done it, but it was a lesson learned.

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19. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   "She sent me a very nice note saying she just read the signals wrong and would be glad to put things right another time. I believe her."

The fact that she took the initiative in contacting you indicates that she cares about her reputation and the perception within this community re the quality of her services. I'd take her at her word and schedule a return visit, then be absolutely honest with her about your need for her to take the lead, maybe even pre-script your interactions so that she does exactly what you'd most like her to do (e.g., 30 mins. of face down sensual massage followed by 10 minutes of BJ, then 20 mins. of intercourse in a variety of positions).

Nothing like getting back on the horse that threw you to counter-act all that negative self-talk, anxiety and fear. The advantage here is that she's not a horse and you can communicate your concerns to her directly. Plus, she's invested in seeing that you get your money's worth so that her reputation remains good.

Alternatively, you might spend some time looking for a good sexual surrogate, who's experienced with the many and varied sexual problems that men have, such as premature ejaculation. Or go see a reputable AMP provider who's skilled in FBSM and able to take the lead. Lots of guys complain about the "scripted" performance of certain AMP providers, but in your case that sounds like just what you need!

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23. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   >Final note on this one. She sent me a very nice note saying
>she just read the signals wrong and would be glad to put
>things right another time. I believe her.
>
>I'll likely decline, heck if I was uncomfortable the first
>time can you imagine how bad it would be second time around
>
>
>As DOE put it, I'm probably not cut out for this hobby.
>

Well I can't speak for you and your follow-up conversations. Maybe she's not the one for you. For me I have been very careful with my selections but it didn't always work. As I stated, I still get nervous with someone new, it's better than in the beginning, and luckily I've generally found the "right ones" with alot of research but it does take trial and error, so I guess it becomes why or how much you want to hobby. If yes then it is searching for the one that would make you feel comfortable, I found someone and saw her for 7 years until she moved back east and retired. Then the search began again, nature of the hobby. A difficult part is finding someone who will devote a bit of time (enough of time) on the phone to get a sense of comfortableness, the girls get alot of "window shoppers" and often a high volume of calls so it is logistically difficult to spend alot of time. Find one that will and where you feel comfortable.

Good luck,

HG

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16. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   I tried to find your review but it must be 'in process'.

I suggest that you take her up on her offer (at a discount I assume)if you find her attractive. If she took the time to contact you then everyone will know what to expect going in to the next session and when that works out your future confidence will be boosted.

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18-Jan-10, 08:48 AM (PST)
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17. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Speaking of her 'offer', is she going to charge you another three large to see her? I'm glad you're submitting a review for this encounter. Providers need to realize that if they take advantage of a guy by short-changing on time or advertised services or, in this case, an obviously nervous (FS) Noob, that there's a good chance that they'll see their transgressions detailed in a review.

Any provider, worthy of the name, should be able to tell when a guy is extremely shy. Why else is he seeing her? If I were you, I would choose a more experienced provider next time and tell her up front that you're going to need her to take charge.

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18-Jan-10, 09:21 AM (PST)
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18. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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Bently - she's probably one of the most gorgeous women I've met, just my type.

Neal - she offered a discount but wasn't specific. Her note was pretty cool, not defensive at all, completely accepted responsibility.

She's 2 weeks into the biz, perhaps I should have mentioned that.

Just two inexperienced people, messing up.

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18-Jan-10, 10:04 AM (PST)
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20. "She's the pro"
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   You're the "novice." She should have taken more responsibility to get the balls rolling, if you know what I mean. That said, you need to take a little initiative, if only to make it clear upfront that you're nervous as hell.

As for the review, just be honest. Guys in a similar situation will beware or aware. And some providers, including her, may pick up a tip and know that some need a little help getting there.

Also, if you spring for me as well, I will act as MC to make sure that everything happens according to plan and schedule.

Don't give up. Have fun! You will not be sorry. And report back on your progress.

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21. "RE: She's the pro"
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LMAO, I can just imagine that scenario

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22. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   Sorry to read about your experience,Nova_Prospect.
You did the right thing by leaving a review.
At $300 an hour this woman is a highly paid professional.She knew why you had hired,and should have taken some initiative.

You sound like a decent person ,but next time you invite a provider over, skip the grand tour.Show her where the bathroom is,take her directly to the bedroom and have that glass of wine while sitting on the bed.Might help you overcome your shyness if you don't have to suggest moving to another room.

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24. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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   When I first read this I thought that inadequacy was the physical thing, like needing Viagra and not having it on hand. I don't think shyness or nerves is inadequacy, it's just a personality thing.

Sounds like both you and her are newbies. Now you know each other so you both probably won't be so nervous. You probably will get a good discount and good treatment since this whole thing is out there now!If she's your type like you said, maybe it is worth a try and worth posting a second review afterward.

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tiga
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25. "RE: Review if nothing happens due to own inadequacy?"
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I think she should have done more to get the ball rolling, but on the other hand I know of a provider that is totally submissive and would never make the first move, but also wouldn't dream of taking advantage of a client.

A review of your experience is valid as long as you present the situation fairly. Keep in mind that your shyness is unique, so the review isn't really relevant for most guys.

One way to overcome your shyness might be to find a provider that offers both FS and FBSM and see her for massage first.

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